What's next after BOBP? Your prediction.

[Redwo1f]

While Bodenplatte has not officially and finally been released in all components (most likely Autumn or perhaps December, imho) - they most certainly know where they are venturing forth next (with some very  early research and what-not being done now in earnest, I think, as Bodenplatte nears completion).

 

All choices (or most) have at least some merit to some extent. Russia, you could argue, could be a choice to round out what has already been done and make a more complete Russian theater experience. However, this I believe would be a hard sell after introducing a western operation and plane set with Bodenplatte - and many, I think, who purchased simply because of that. So I don't think this is a move that is very likely (but again, I think it's possible).  Korea is possible with the introduction of jet turbine aircraft (Me 262) - and it appears Jason is excited of that possibility (and I believe many think this is a very possible direction they will go) - however, I am thinking that that move would be very divisive to the community at this point (particularly to those hard-core Pacific dreamers who would wonder why they made such a drastic theater change to Korea when the other drastic theater change (Pacific) was already promised (and also to those who really are most interested in WWII) - so I think they have to realize this. I don't know. Maybe they have something else in the plans (hence the other category) - or maybe there is a HUGE surprise of two theaters or something to that effect (though I don't think it is very likely, it isn't impossible - and there have been hints about some very big announcement, so who knows).

 

Personally, I think it is probably either a Western European scenario (building off of what they have) - then Pacific...or perhaps they feel they are ready to try for Pacific and move there. If I could vote for two, these two would be it. Regardless, I think it is important to be efficient and smart - utilizing what they have and building from it. There is some overlap with assets to either of these. Gun to my head -I think it is going to be Western Europe scenario next. This isn't about what I want next - I will support wherever they choose to go - just think it is slightly more likely to be Western Europe next. 

Edited July 2, 2019 by Redwo1f

[namhee2]

It will not be hard to make a prediction: since PTO was already announced and never annulled, it is clear what will happen. By the way, read exactly what was written about the B25 Mitchell by the developers."DD 218"

[Redwo1f]

11 minutes ago, namhee2 said:

It will not be hard to make a prediction: since PTO was already announced and never annulled, it is clear what will happen. By the way, read exactly what was written about the B25 Mitchell by the developers."DD 218"

"The B-25 bomber will be AI-only in this project, but we'll try to make its exterior 3D and physical model at the same quality level as our player controllable aircraft. First, this is important for those who will be attacking or defending these planes in the Career mode, campaigns, single scenarios and Coop multiplayer. Second, who knows - perhaps a possibility to make it flyable will reveal itself in the future:"  (from DD 218)

 

I see absolutely nothing there that says Pacific will be the next theater immediately after Bodenplatte. Pacific is coming - it's just a matter of whether it is next or not. It could very well be next...it may not be.

Edited July 2, 2019 by Redwo1f

[AndyJWest]

The poll doesn't have an option for 'I don't know, and will wait and see...' 

[namhee2]

Quite simply: the B 25 mitchell was very active in pacific

[Redwo1f]

...oh, I am well aware of that. It is one of my favorite airplanes...

[AndyJWest]

9 minutes ago, namhee2 said:

Quite simply: the B 25 mitchell was very active in pacific

 

Where wasn't it?

[SCG_Faerber]

I have a Italy feeling. Many planes are already in the game, it is an interesting underrated theater, could cover Sicily invasions up until the siege of Rome. Macchi 205s, Sparvieros, Trop Spits, and perhaps the B26 Marauder. It is really the most interesting one, and with way more documentation than the PTO.

[Redwo1f]

Italy I would put in the Western European choice (if that is your prediction) - which would include Normandy or Berlin (or others possible) (if that is your prediction). From an asset point of view, it does make a lot of sense. For the record - I would like to see either an Italy campaign or Pacific (New Guinea or Solomons or something  - an easing into start) - but this isn't about what we most want - it's what you think 1C will most likely do. A fun prediction - we will see who is right. Very well could be an announcement this Summer (or even end of the month perhaps).

[sevenless]

Either Normandy or Eastfront 44/45. PTO isn´t readdy yet.

[Missionbug]

For me I think the Finnish front could possibly be the next due to the fact a map was in process from a number of enthusiasts who are from Finland and all experienced map and 3d makers, that thread went very quite all of a sudden some time ago with nothing from them since, I live in hope that 1C/777 are helping them bring that to the GB series.

 

 

There were also two other maps in work for Russia, however, some members of those teams dropped out but who knows they might have passed the work on to any interested party including 1C/777 to complete them.

 

Any or all of the those three maps we know are/where in existence could accommodate most/all of the existing aircraft although for Finland it would be late war such as the 109 and Ju-88 with the usual suspects for the Russians, if Murmansk came along there would be the opportunity to build a fleet carrier and something to put on deck without the need for naval aviation to be the star of the show, a step toward the Pacific.

 

That said, due to Jason having a personal interest in the Pacific they could head there, however, last it was mentioned there were still huge barriers in that all really good available information had to be translated and it would incur significant costs to the team, would it be worth the outlay?

 

Not to mention we still have no air launched torpedoes, a must for the Pacific that was supposed to be developed in Kuban, much to do for the team if they go there, possibly a longer development would be needed, three or four years to get all the ships and necessary naval technology into the series.

 

Korea for me goes beyond what I am interested in personally, it would seem to be another Uber plane choice, would we then cherry pick all the very best aircraft in the world from there to the present day?

 

Anyway, there is also a chance the team goes forward developing Tank Crew and Flying Circus instead and takes a break from WWII aircraft, there is a vast area of choice for this game developer so who knows, guess it all depends on which of the existing/WIP modules is showing the most promise financially.

 

Maybe one day we will have the ability to fly for each of the Allied and Axis Air Forces involved in the current maps in their respective aircraft, that would expand the playability of what we already have without the need to make any new maps for a while, who knows?

 

 

We can speculate until the cows come home, anywhere and everywhere is up for grabs, maybe Jason can finally make a announcement and put us out of our misery, we can then start speculating all over again.

 

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[Feathered_IV]

I have a feeling it will be Korea next. 

If the Pacific does eventually come, I think it will be as the first chapter with a new-improved game engine.  Probably one that is not backwards compatible.

[Chief_Mouser]

You didn't put - 'Nothing, the BoX series is finished'. Rise of Flight was suddenly abandoned for BoX and maybe the advent of an improved game engine could see BoX abandoned for a completely new series, 'The Pacific'. It's the only way I can see the Pacific scenarios being done properly.

 

Edit: Feathered is thinking along the same lines.

Edited July 3, 2019 by Red_Cat

[Lusekofte]

10 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

I have a feeling it will be Korea next. 

If the Pacific does eventually come, I think it will be as the first chapter with a new-improved game engine.  Probably one that is not backwards compatible.

Me too. If you asked what I wished for , PTO would be first on the list. 

I believe they would have to get carriers for korea and I do not know if that would be a problem  to do 

[6FG_Big_Al]

Well, theoretically, there would be three options in any case.

 

1st Korea -> just because of the new Jet Tech and the fact that this location is more or less completely untouched so far.
2nd Europe/Italy 1943/44 -> would be absolutely feasible and would be logical at least concerning the variety of the allied airplanes. With that the arsenal could be increased considerably and for the Germans you could choose a few less present variants (Me-410 etc.).
3rd pacific -> The long wanted location which, just like Korea would open a completely new region.

 

Based on the upcoming updates we get a greater visibility and a new fuel system with drop tanks, which would be suitable for any of the scenarios. Of course, the question now is if the direct mention of ships is an indication that in the future we will be dealing with naval operations. Furthermore, I don't think that we will get a completely "new" series. Because that would mean a break and at the same time make the work on Flying Circus and Tank Crew somehow meaningless.

 

Personally, I would give the European/Pacific successor a 50/50 chance. At least the expansion of the aircraft (at least on one side) would make more sense. But of course the Pacific, with the new engine changes, also has a real chance.  Unfortunately, nothing is known about the state of the investigation.

 

[Chief_Mouser]

4 minutes ago, Big_Al_the_Allo said:

Because that would mean a break and at the same time make the work on Flying Circus and Tank Crew somehow meaningless.

 

 

Indeed. I have always wondered about these two from the day they were announced. FC can stand on it's own (although it has a very long way to go before it can even get close to the playability that RoF had achieved) but TC was always touted as integrated with BoX, although someone that owns no aircraft will still be able to play it. However, suddenly splitting the BoX series into three still strikes me as a bit odd. Was it to generate more cash for the next core instalment of BoX? Was it to test the water and find a new direction because the Pacific isn't going to happen? Was it an admission that BoX is coming to an end so lets see what we can do with the engine before we give up? Ever since the announcement of the postponement of the Pacific expansion BoX has delighted us with more lovely toys but no clear indication as to where its going. Let's wait for FC, TC and BoBp to be finished and officially released and no doubt we shall find out.

Is there perhaps a problem with the water in this game engine that is preventing an ocean-based scenario? Absolutely NO sign or even hint of a floatplane/seaplane and pilots still die every time when landing in the water. Just a thought...

[=27=Davesteu]

I'd love to think the Asiatic-Pacific Theatre is next, but I'm somewhat doubtful about it happening.
That said, the Asiatic-Pacific Theatre has to be next for me and I'm convinced that a scenario like New Guinea 42/43 is doable.

 

The Korean War is by no means feasible if the Asiatic-Pacific Theatre isn't. People are reading way too much into that Froogle interview with Jason.

Edited July 3, 2019 by =27=Davesteu

[Missionbug]

Anything based in the Pacific area would be a huge undertaking, everything would have to be new build stuff, aircraft, ships, buildings and any land mass not to mention the very dynamics of carrier operations, there would be very little that can be used from current modules except a few American vehicles once the current module is finished and possibly some European objects to represent the colonial architecture of some parts of the regions involved.

 

The only aircraft currently available that could possibly be used is a P-40 but that would have to be considerably re-built for the early period that I assume most want which is Midway and Pearl Harbor essentially, where do they actually start?

 

I think there would need to be considerable input from the major player, 1C games itself, not sure what kind of support they currently give to 777 studio but for them to go it alone could be a leap too far and could jeopardize other projects currently on going if they do too much too soon.

 

Maybe a small start could involve a dog fight type map such as the Pacific Islands in old IL-2 1946 using two small landmasses with limited facilities and maybe a fighter and bomber for each side then build from there in between other projects as and when information was forthcoming to make the main aircraft types and all the necessary vessels and game play mechanics.

 

Would such a scenario be plausible and the community buy into it, who knows but it would at least be a first step.

 

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

Edited July 3, 2019 by Missionbug

[CountZero]

Its PTO, no question about it

[ITAF_Rani]

On 7/3/2019 at 1:34 AM, SCG_Faerber said:

I have a Italy feeling. Many planes are already in the game, it is an interesting underrated theater, could cover Sicily invasions up until the siege of Rome. Macchi 205s, Sparvieros, Trop Spits, and perhaps the B26 Marauder. It is really the most interesting one, and with way more documentation than the PTO.

Yes .....this is what I hope( and many others) !!

And IMO what the Devs are maybe developing next.

Talking about %possibility 50/50 Italy43-44 and Pacific

Edited July 4, 2019 by ITAF_Rani

[AndyJWest]

6 minutes ago, anonymouse said:

...looking at the poll results, the overwhelming majority thinks going to Korea next makes the most sense. Has to be Korea, no question. 

 

Polls conducted to ask people what they think is going to happen are really only much use as a means of predicting what will happen if said people are in possession of relevant information. And if such information is available, I've not seen it.

 

Speculation isn't evidence.

Edited July 4, 2019 by AndyJWest

[=27=Davesteu]

2 hours ago, anonymouse said:

On 7/3/2019 at 4:28 PM, =27=Davesteu said:

The Korean War is by no means feasible if the Asiatic-Pacific Theatre isn't. People are reading way too much into that Froogle interview with Jason.

False.

 

People are reading way too much into this: 

"Our long-term vision includes the following battles, but not necessarily in this order and final selection is not concrete.
Battle of Kuban
Battle of Midway
Battle of Okinawa
Battle of ???" 

What's false about that? There's no right or wrong, it's my opinion and really none of your business.
The second part of your post isn't related at all and only a misguided attempt to troll/discredit me - simply knock it off.

 

The Korean War is by no means feasible if the Asiatic-Pacific Theatre isn't. People are reading way too much into that Froogle interview with Jason.

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

PTO Midway, PTO Battle of the Coral Sea, MTO Malta, Barbarossa and Leningrad.

[CountZero]

6 hours ago, anonymouse said:

What

 

False.

 

People are reading way too much into this: 

 

"Our long-term vision includes the following battles, but not necessarily in this order and final selection is not concrete.
Battle of Kuban
Battle of Midway
Battle of Okinawa
Battle of ???"

 

Idk...looking at the poll results, the overwhelming majority think going to Korea next makes the most sense. Has to be Korea, no question. 

if poll is not showing PTO as first its fake poll ? now im off to check thouse new shermans i hear about last few days... maybe they fuiger out how to make them invisable like airplanes... but its 100% PTO next, you can bet on it

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

8 hours ago, anonymouse said:

Idk...looking at the poll results, the overwhelming majority think going to Korea next makes the most sense.

 

They think that's where it is going as per the poll question - not that it makes the most sense.

 

[Redwo1f]

...just saying, Jason said they wanted to do Pacific but it was postponed (quite some time ago). Just pointing out that if they have the resources/knowhow to make such a drastic theatre change to Korea, then they surely would have had the same to do the Pacific. Considering this this - which is most likely the scenario of those two? (hmmmm, something to think about).?

[Vig]

The entire question of "what's next" has become a painful one for me.  The Pacific was announced and I believed it, buying a lot of stuff I don't use much to support that eventual goal.  What I'm looking forward to most now is the WWI game being released.  To me, that means 777, and I have a lot of good feelings for those fellows after what they did with Rise of Flight.  I would like to be able to follow that project development separately, without reading about a tank game in which I have no interest and which I feel I have somewhat funded by buying the 1C stuff to get to the Pacific only it really was tanks after all. 

 

I will possibly buy future 1C developments if they are in my area of interest, but my feelings about the two companies and the reliability of their announcements are very different now, and I would like to see their respective products have their own platforms and forums.  Then I will have no reason to check frequently on the development status of 777 projects in these forums.  It would save me a lot of irritation.

[Bullets]

On 7/3/2019 at 12:20 PM, Feathered_IV said:

I have a feeling it will be Korea next. 

If the Pacific does eventually come, I think it will be as the first chapter with a new-improved game engine.  Probably one that is not backwards compatible.

 

I wan't to avoid this as much as possible... It pretty much killed ROF and it will kill this. If game engine development happens It I really really hope they do it with the current Great Battles series. 

[=GW=xshinel]

Three features may lead the next DLC to 3 different theater.

1. Tank Crew DLC. The second tank DLC may focus on the battle in the western front, include more Allied armors. This is a business opportunity. A new Normandy map include the channel can make the Euro map more complete. This DLC maybe the last one of the current version, of course may end with a Italy Map.

2. Jet technology. They spent a lot of days on developing jet technology and the new high mach FM, this can be as a technical reserve, also can directly lead us to the Korea theater. they can bring benefits from this new technology.

3. Farther distance visible. As mentioned in DD 215, farther distance visible of planes and ships maybe a signal of sea battles. And this news made me excited.

 

So I think next DLC is, Normandy > Pacific > Korea

 

BUT. I WANT PACIFIC!!!

Edited July 9, 2019 by 8./JG5_xshinel

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

The announcement should be done this month.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

21 minutes ago, 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan said:

The announcement should be done this month.

Seems a little early for that. Isn’t the full release aiming for end of the year? While I’m pretty sure the internal roadmap is probably firming up and documentation is being gathered, I’d be surprised by any public announcement before September/October.

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

But summer time is good for spending money

[Bladebender]

I think the Pacific theatre will be some way off yet.

Simulating carriers with sea motion will be a major coding exercise on its own.

It does however, unlock a whole load of additional BoX options, including Korea, Mediterranean, North Sea and so on.

 

TF 5.0 is North Africa so they are unlikely to touch that region yet

 

I recon Russia 1944 may be next as it fills some gaps in the Russian plane set and can utilise Kuban and Bodenplatte aircraft also.

 

Whichever region comes next, it will need a set of 10 planes.

So that will probably dictate the choice.

Edited July 11, 2019 by Bladebender

[Redwo1f]

43 minutes ago, Bladebender said:

 

 

Whichever region comes next, it will need a set of 10 planes.

So that will probably dictate the choice.

Not necessarily. That is only if they are die-hard committed to a 4+1 per side model for all releases. 

While this poll is merely a fun speculation, go vote in the Number of Flyables per release poll if you haven't already - which I think is a very relevant poll for the developers.

Edited July 11, 2019 by Redwo1f

[ww2fighter20]

46 minutes ago, Bladebender said:

I think the Pacific theatre will be some way off yet.

Simulating carriers with sea motion will be a major coding exercise on its own.

It does however, unlock a whole load of additional BoX options, including Korea, Mediterranean, North Sea and so on.

 

TF 5.0 is North Africa so they are unlikely to touch that region yet

 

I recon Russia 1944 may be next as it fills some gaps in the Russian plane set and can utilise Kuban and Bodenplatte aircraft also.

 

Whichever region comes next, it will need a set of 10 planes.

So that will probably dictate the choice.

 

No need for carriers if they do New Guinea

[Gambit21]

On 7/11/2019 at 10:54 AM, ww2fighter20 said:

 

No need for carriers if they do New Guinea

 

Not the best bang for the buck for PTO from a development standpoint despite some of you guys thinking it's the way to go.

Guadalcanal/early Solomons, Midway, Coral Sea share almost the same plane set, with an addition or two depending.

 

Get that plane set/maps rolling and we really have a variety of battles fairly quickly.

New Guinea is great, I'd love to have it, but IMHO it's not the best choice/bang for the buck - carriers aside.

 

If they do carriers then we have Midway and Watchtower (beginning of Guadalcanal) to utilize them...as well as Coral Sea.

[Reinhardt]

I want to say they'll go Mediterranean next but will they have enough allied and axis planes to make a whole new module? They can't do it for free. We already have a few mid war German planes but there are definitely more to be introduced, including Italian ones. They could probably do it. Or they could go early war fighting down Greece and Italy. Who knows. 

[Enceladus828]

I think they’ll go to the Pacific, if not, Finland.

[NETSCAPE]

I'm looking for to IL-2: Battle of the improved AI. 

 

Until then I will keep a firm grasp on my shekels. 

[cardboard_killer]

On 7/11/2019 at 1:06 PM, Bladebender said:

Whichever region comes next, it will need a set of 10 planes.

So that will probably dictate the choice.

 

Late, but I wonder if they need ten "new" planes? I'd buy anything they could put out that had a map and a few new planes. In any case, I think there are plenty of new planes to choose from in any theater, even the ones covered already. Who wouldn't like to fly an I-15 over Moscow?

 

Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but how about Soviet-Japanese clashes in 1930s? The most famous is Khalkhin Gol, but I think there was also action earlier over Manchuria. And there's the  Second Sino-Japanese War.

 

Or Spanish Civil War. But I digest--I'll buy it, whatever it is.

 

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