Me262 skins taken from artwork.

[SR603-Flowbee]

I made two skins for this aircraft one is the historical version which is a copy of the Airfix model kit artwork while the second is my favourite, an interpretation which is matt paint topside and bare metal underside. If anyone has the kit or knows more about the pictured aircraft, it would be nice to get the story.

 

As always the credit goes to ICDP for creating such a brilliant template.

 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ypr4di5zl4vp455/Me262A_4k_mid_green_cover_v4.dds/file    (full paint job)

 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/b7zf3eypd0t0iie/Me262A_4k_mid_green_v9.dds/file    (matt and metal)

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/dxjsufsb8ni5z88/Me262A_4k_mid_green_v10.dds/file     (bare metal cowlings 170032}

 

Sorry, I posted the wrong skin in the final link. The final version with bare metal cowlings, wk-nr. 170032 and more weathering is in this link..

 https://www.mediafire.com/file/3ub1bq0qgrro3ai/Me262A_4k_Y3_mid_green_v11_cs.dds/file

 

Edited June 28, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[Pierre64]

Hi Flowbee,

thanks for your skin. It remembers me one I made for the first IL-2 more than fifteen year ago.

 

This 262 is "Yellow 3" (W.Nr. 170032) from III./KG (J) 54 found abandonned at München-Riem.

When, during the very late stages of the war, this bomber unit (Totenkopf Keschwader) switched to fighter role, tactical markings B3+xx and diagonal band (yellow for the third group) were overpainted and blue and white Reichverteidigung band and yellow numbers added. 

Front cowlings of Jumo engines were probably not white but left in natural metal. The contrasted pattern on the fin was frequently seen on Me 262s of Kommando Nowotny.

[SR603-Flowbee]

Thanks Pierre64! 

 

I was curious about the unusual 262 but unable to find out myself. Will change the second skin to remove the white from the cowling so as to leave more metal which I prefer anyway. I can also add the Wrk nr. to the tail.

Edited June 15, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[SR603-Flowbee]

Here is another model skin this one based on the Dragon 1/48 scale kit. It is of a 262 belonging to KG200. It was part of the Mistel bombing project codename Beethoven. Although the kit was made by Dragon, the 262 Mistel bomber may not have flown before the end of the war even though the plans were completed. 

 

There is an updated skin further on based on more pictures as I found them.

 

http://www.mediafire.com/file/aj8bqc9zw91tzlp/Me262A_4k_mistel_v9.dds/file

 

 

Edited June 23, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[SR603-Flowbee]

Having found more pictures on the web I have updated the KG200 skin to be a better representation of what it might have looked like.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/dhcdn0alg5facrm/Me262A_4k_mistel_v15.dds/file

 

Spoiler

 

Edited June 18, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[Trooper117]

Nice... but I think I'll stick to the first one!

[SR603-Flowbee]

Cool, it is all subjective anyway as so few even half decent and undegraded colour photographs exist. Most information is from artists impressions of their best guess. Everyone has preferences, mine is metal showing under flaking paint. Makes it look more real to me. I don't post many skins as most are of my favourite impressions taken from period photos and subsequent artwork as opposed to profile copies. It is great though to get so much variety due to the provision of ready made templates which really take time and effort to produce. Thanks to those providing templates and thanks for looking!

[bzc3lk]

21 hours ago, Flowbee_603 said:

Having found more pictures on the web I have updated the KG200 skin to be a better representation of what it might have looked like.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/dhcdn0alg5facrm/Me262A_4k_mistel_v15.dds/file

 

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Thanks for the skin Flowbee, my favorite for the 262. Reminds me of the colour scheme found on the twin cockpit 262 in the South African museum. Would it be possible for you  to do a version of this skin with black under surfaces like the South African museum example below?

 

 

 

[SR603-Flowbee]

Lol, bzc3lk, after looking at Claes Sundins Bookzine on Luftwaffe fighters this morning I have just updated that version of the KG200 skin to make the overspray softer and eased back on the weathering to get it more like the photographs I found on the web. 

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/1zb2tr7tq3kfqd5/Me262A_4k_mistel_v16.dds/file

 

As for your question, adding a black underside is no problem but instead I could try and copy the cammo from your photo and give that a go to see if I can pull it off. I just have one more skin to finish for this model and then I could give it a go as it looks interesting and unusual. Let me know.

 

I just found a link to the 262 in your photo http://ipmsvagabonds.com/page3/page52/page52.html

 

It reaffirms what I was saying about the variance in perceived patterns as each iteration is different as I am sure mine would be as well. Having read the article I am now less inclined to spend time copying the photo as it appears the original was obliterated. I could however try and create a good approximation.

 

Edited June 19, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[bzc3lk]

45 minutes ago, Flowbee_603 said:

Lol, bzc3lk, after looking at Claes Sundins Bookzine on Luftwaffe fighters this morning I have just updated that version of the KG200 skin to make the overspray softer and eased back on the weathering to get it more like the photographs I found on the web.

 

As for your question, adding a black underside is no problem but instead I could try and copy the cammo from your photo and give that a go to see if I can pull it off. I just have one more skin to finish for this model and then I could give it a go as it looks interesting and unusual. Let me know.

 

I just found a link to the 262 in your photo http://ipmsvagabonds.com/page3/page52/page52.html

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Flowbee, your updated version does look better. As for the "South African Museum version" , I will leave that up to your discretion and capable hands.

Edited June 19, 2019 by bzc3lk

[Bullets]

I love the mix of alpha layers with matte on top and shiny underside!

[bzc3lk]

29 minutes ago, Bullets said:

I love the mix of alpha layers with matte on top and shiny underside!

 

He has done the same effects on the Spit IX, in my opinion the best skin on this version.  ?

 

 

Edited June 19, 2019 by bzc3lk

[SR603-Flowbee]

Thanks for the comments, appreciated. 

 

 My favourite part of doing skins is to try and show that there is metal under paint and when spending a lot of time on one skin like the Spit it is also nice to add smears of oil and dirt. Works great on tanks too but it all takes loads of time to get it right. Great that the developers give us these tools. I spent extra time doing the Spit for a friend of mine who is an Aviation Artist (Kevin Moffat). I still 'owe' him a Russian Tank lol.

 

I quickly knocked up a 262 nighfighter version which is actually quite credible as a lot of Luftwaffe Heavy Nightfighters used this very pattern and colouration.

 

 (updated and finished version later in thread see below)

 

I think there is a good chance of getting the museum version done.

 

Edited June 20, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[bzc3lk]

Thank You Flowbee. 

 

 

[SR603-Flowbee]

No worries - that's version one. I will keep tweaking it for a while until I move onto the next one. Smoothing out the black layer, getting metal into the engines, getting some scratches and flakes down to the metal and I think the top half which has the pastel shades from the book is just too light for the game and on a monitor so might darken it a bit more till it looks right. I will update when I finish it. An Me109 G2  took me through most of the Stalingrad Career with a little tweak between each mission until I was happy with it. The night layer will be handy for the museum model when I get it done as will all the other bits and bobs if I don't lose them.

 

Just saw that the Spitfire was labelled as being version 82. I must have really tried with that one.

I remember it took me about 3 weeks to do which ties in with v82 at about an hour per version. I'm just glad you noticed it lol.

 

Edited June 19, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[ScotsmanFlyingscotsman]

These are really nice, thanks for the hard work

[Yankee_One]

Nice skins Flowbee.

 

If you dont mind i would suggest, that nightfighters had mostly black or white outlined swastikas.

For the black swas there are two options:

 

total black like this one made by RAP (fantastic skin)   https://mega.nz/#!YyxQCASR!shprJtKH4DveGYj0QMP0_-VUEdhBf3rwAJUHNlVfI_A

 

and a kind put together in squares. Google  "me 262 Wk.Nr 111980 RED 12" and you will see it.

 

S!

 

Edited June 20, 2019 by Yankee_One

[SR603-Flowbee]

Ok, here is the updated and improved nightfighter version. Overlooking the fact that it is an A1(with a shiny nose - I just liked it that way) the cammo is at least credible. And thanks to Yankee's spot it now has the correct Swastika. Museum version next!

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/pfb558ej3b03k13/Me262A_4k__nightfighter_v7.dds/file

 

Edited June 20, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[SR603-Flowbee]

On 6/19/2019 at 8:07 AM, bzc3lk said:

 

Thanks for the skin Flowbee, my favorite for the 262. Reminds me of the colour scheme found on the twin cockpit 262 in the South African museum. Would it be possible for you  to do a version of this skin with black under surfaces like the South African museum example below?

 

 

 

 

Ok, I had a go at this one today. My pattern is smaller because the stitching would otherwise be too disruptive or require an inordinate amount of time to fix. I am curious if it even comes close as I took the colours from the photograph as I see it on my monitor. Also the paints used in the museum were not RLM colours so I had to match them to the photo and then use them in photoshop and finally the game displays them. I am pretty sure somewhere missmatches in colour profiles are going to come into it. 

 

 https://www.mediafire.com/file/8yzp38b3b6d2spr/Me262A_4k__nightfighter_sa_v10.dds/file

 

[9./JG26_Bolzon]

Hi ! i would like to show my new work  for ME 262 ! 

[SR603-Flowbee]

I resized the pattern as it wasn't right but now the stitching needs fixing. There is a way to do it but just how tedious it is going to get remains to be seen. I might not get it better than this within a reasonable time frame. It depends how much it bugs me whether I sort it or not.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/uit1zq6nyct6ahv/Me262A_4k__nightfighter_sa_v21.dds/file

 

[sevenless]

Hi flowbee,

 

I found this pic of a nightfighter. Maybe it helps with regard to camo pattern and size of the number.

 

And these sites might be helpfull:

 

http://ipmsvagabonds.com/page3/page52/page52.html

 

here you can see that most paintwork in museum planes of today is off:

 

http://silverhawkauthor.com/axis-warplane-survivors-german-aircraft-part-iv-messerschmitt-me-262-to-siebel-si-204_567.html

Edited June 21, 2019 by sevenless

[SR603-Flowbee]

Hi sevenless, was trying to copy a 262 from a photo of an A2 in SA (see further up). This is not a generic aircraft but a specific one hence the small numbers. The use of a black cross instead of white is note worthy in the photo. Again the variance was huge. It is less a case of right and wrong and more of usual and unusual. 

 

Anyway bottom line is the stitching of the pattern is beyond me. The original  aircraft cammo actually looks easier to mimic. This is my last effort on this one. Sorry, bzc3lk, but I did give it a go. 

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/55as3r79tc59brv/Me262A_4k__nightfighter_sa_v23.dds/file

 

Edited June 21, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, Flowbee_603 said:

Hi sevenless, was trying to copy a 262 from a photo of an A2 in SA (see further up). This is not a generic aircraft but a specific one hence the small numbers. 

 

Hi flowbee. I see. That particular Aircraft (Wk.Nr. 111305 RED 8, now situated in South African National War Museum)  is mentioned here also with its very particular camo scheme reproduced from notes Mr. Belling took in 1954.

 

http://ipmsvagabonds.com/page3/page52/page52.html

 

 

[SR603-Flowbee]

Yes, thanks, see earlier in the thread. 

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As for your question, adding a black underside is no problem but instead I could try and copy the cammo from your photo and give that a go to see if I can pull it off. I just have one more skin to finish for this model and then I could give it a go as it looks interesting and unusual. Let me know.

 

I just found a link to the 262 in your photo http://ipmsvagabonds.com/page3/page52/page52.html

 

It reaffirms what I was saying about the variance in perceived patterns as each iteration is different as I am sure mine would be as well. Having read the article I am now less inclined to spend time copying the photo as it appears the original was obliterated. I could however try and create a good approximation.

 

I went with trying to recreate the photo which didn't turn out well.

 

Anyway, as things have drifted off topic and into the conceptual, here is one I actually like and again not outwith the bounds of what was being done at the time. It is quite possible I am the only one that likes it but a good note to finish on.

 

 

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/0wumqbbwuy4p9za/Me262A_4k_mistel_v23.dds/file

 

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by Flowbee_603

[6FG_Big_Al]

These are amazing skins ?
A question or a suggestion for a skin. How about a fictitious shark coat (no badges etc.) and shark mouth, similar to this one:

https://photobucket.com/gallery/user/fritzofpeace/media/cGF0aDovU3dpZnRTaGFya196cHNiMWQ1YjY5YS5qcGc=/?ref=

[LukeFF]

On 6/17/2019 at 2:26 AM, Flowbee_603 said:

Here is another model skin this one based on the Dragon 1/48 scale kit. It is of a 262 belonging to KG200. It was first flown in 1943 as part of the Mistel bombing project codename Beethoven.

 

There is absolutely no way 262s were flying as Mistels in 1943. Whatever reference you are using is highly speculative of what a Mistel 262 would have looked like, and thus should be labeled as such.

[Haza]

Flowbee,

 

Having purchased IL2 1946 and played in a sim with some of those aircraft being highly speculative, please just keep doing what you enjoy.  Unfortunately not everything on the internet is correct/factual and indeed you only have to look at issues raised within this game to realise that.  Indeed, I recently purchased a WW2 German Flying saucer model, that my kids thought was used in the war, so it just goes to show that not everything is as good and true as IrnBru!

 

However, it is obvious that you have a talent for doing different skins, so crack on Big Yin and have fun.

 

Regards

 

Edited June 23, 2019 by Haza

[SR603-Flowbee]

Here is my impression of a famous 262 of 3./JG7 in  May 1945. 'Yellow 5' was an aircraft flown by Unteroffizier Anton Schoppler.  It is battle weary and scarred. I have drawn heavily on the brilliant work done by ICDP and in this case by e69_julian57.

 

(Once again I need to reiterate that virtually all skins and artwork are highly speculative as they are mostly based on old b/w photos or much faded colour photographs were the inks have been degraded. Also not all information that is found in books or on the net is factual. I take it at face value and do not corroborate it as to ascertain its authenticity.)

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/o42786tz9s5s238/Me262A_4k_3_JG7_5Y_v5_cs.dds/file

 

I just found some original b/w photos that exist of the aircraft. The noteworthy thing for me is that my choice of asymetrical engine cowlings was actually correct.

Also....

  "Messerschmitt Me 262A-1a "Schwalbe" (Wk. Nr. 500443), "Yellow 5", 7./JG7, this aircraft was flown by Unterofficier Anton Schoppler from his base at Saaz  and surrendered at Schleswig-Jagel, Germany on 8 May 1945."

There is no mention of Schoppler having flown (Wk. Nr. 111007), "Yellow 5", 3./JG7 captured and scrapped at Fassberg in May 1945. (The Yellow 5 shown in the Osprey profile and of which the skin is an impression.) There are photos and information on both of the aircraft shown in the link below. I think this is a good example of what I have been saying and having to reiterate with regards to factual and speculative information. The depiction of aircraft skins is at best a subjective rather than an objective pursuit.

 

More information in this link:

http://silverhawkauthor.com/axis-warplane-survivors-german-aircraft-part-iv-messerschmitt-me-262-to-siebel-si-204_567.html

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[SR603-Flowbee]

16 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

There is absolutely no way 262s were flying as Mistels in 1943. Whatever reference you are using is highly speculative of what a Mistel 262 would have looked like, and thus should be labeled as such.

 

You are correct and I have changed my post to reflect this information. Thank you for pointing out the error.

 

I didn't immediately cotton onto the fact as the first 262 flights had taken place in 1941 and Hitler had intended it to be used as a bomber. So making it available to KG200 in 1943 seemed reasonable. However it turns out the jet engines weren't available until 1944 and the 262 Mistel plans were not finished until very late in the war. It is doubtful that it even flew before the war ended.

 

As for the skin being highly speculative, in my opinion, all skins are highly speculative as they are based on b/w photos of the era and artistic impressions, usually being copied and modified based on subjective information.

[SR603-Flowbee]

Have updated the Yellow 5 skin to look more natural especially with regards to the dirt and grime. I guess the

monitor setting also plays a part so I have left the original up as well. (Further small update to cleaning up emblem and tuning down luminescense of bare metal and fuel spills in low light.)

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/mxdvv9x2p75hz59/Me262A_4k_3_JG7_5Y_v7_cs.dds/file

 

Edited June 24, 2019 by Flowbee_603

[szelljr]

1 minute ago, Flowbee_603 said:

Have updated the Yellow 5 skin to look more natural especially with regards to the dirt and grime. I guess the

monitor setting also plays a part so I have left the original up as well.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/mxdvv9x2p75hz59/Me262A_4k_3_JG7_5Y_v6_cs.dds/file

 

 

 

"

I guess the

monitor setting also plays a part so I have left the original up as well."        YESSSS!    Couple days ago ,i watched my  old skins in my LG tv.....(i connected to my computer) I finding so strange...the colors,all so.....ugly ..

[Rhan_N_Singh]

Idea for an original skin below.   Ye' olde blue shark.  

Just a thought if anyone would like to tackle that for an Me-262 skin.

For some reason I see similarities among the two...predators. 

 

[SR603-Flowbee]

Check out the Shark skin by SKZBolzon in an earlier post in this thread. Should be easy to add a bit of blue to that. I'm going to be busy for a while doing weathering to some of the existing skins in between spending time flying the 262. Was trying to get an engine looking like it had been worked on but ended up more like fire damage with too much black. So scrap those hours and start again.

[Rhan_N_Singh]

8 hours ago, Flowbee_603 said:

Check out the Shark skin by SKZBolzon in an earlier post in this thread. Should be easy to add a bit of blue to that. I'm going to be busy for a while doing weathering to some of the existing skins in between spending time flying the 262. Was trying to get an engine looking like it had been worked on but ended up more like fire damage with too much black. So scrap those hours and start again.

 

I did see that one, and am glad to see someone else thought that this aircraft resembled something from the Chondrichthyes class.  But for some reason I want to see it blue.  Genus Prionace glauca. I am nutter that way.

Thank you Wiki

[SR603-Flowbee]

I've spent a lot more time finishing off the Me262 Yellow 5 of 3./JG7 (Wk.-Nr. 110007) adding everything from grime and dust to oil stains and hand prints on the recently repaired port engine. I've also scraped more paint off the walkway. I am happy with the way it looks now. I hope you will try it out.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/2tned7qx5xtx660/Me262A_4k_Public_3_JG7_Y5_v28_cs.dds/file

 

[CUJO_1970]

great work!

 

[Blitzen]

Many thanks guys! Would love to see the fictional Shark's teeth made available...?

[CUJO_1970]

On 6/26/2019 at 6:46 PM, Flowbee_603 said:

I've spent a lot more time finishing off the Me262 Yellow 5 of 3./JG7 (Wk.-Nr. 110007) adding everything from grime and dust to oil stains and hand prints on the recently repaired port engine. I've also scraped more paint off the walkway. I am happy with the way it looks now. I hope you will try it out.

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/2tned7qx5xtx660/Me262A_4k_Public_3_JG7_Y5_v28_cs.dds/file

 

 

I flew with this skin online and it might be the most realistic 262 skin currently available. Just incredible!

[fubar_2_niner]

On 6/19/2019 at 11:14 AM, bzc3lk said:

 

He has done the same effects on the Spit IX, in my opinion the best skin on this version.  ?

 

 

Where can I find this skin please?

 

Best regards.

 

fubar