German doctrine superiority

[beresford]

Some have complained that Russian tanks in TC are better than the German tanks, unless you take a Tiger all the time. The arrival of the short-barrelled Pz IV is unlikely to change this perception. In fact the T34 WAS a generation ahead of the Pz III and Pz IV, the reasons the Germans succeeded were things like having three-man turrets and a radio in every tank. How might these features be represented so that every German player doesn't have to take a Tiger?

 

Radio: Perhaps every Russian vehicle in LOS of German AI should be marked on German maps.

 

Two-man turret: Given that multi-player tanks are unlikely to become ubiquitous, perhaps it should take longer for the Russian to switch between external views and gunsight view. 

[Finkeren]

Trust me: Having played around quite a bit with the new T-34, the effect of the dual roles of gunner/commander is already felt. Unlike the earlier semi-modeled T-34, it takes several seconds to move between unbuttoned and gunsight view. 

 

The poor ergonomics for the loader also results in lower rate of fire for the 76.2mm than for the much heavier 88mm in the Tiger. 

 

The superiority of German doctrine will not really be felt at least until we have some form of infantry that we can coordinate with. 

 

Also: I'm pretty sure we are getting a late long-barreled Panzer IV, which will be about of par with the T-34 and be able to hurt the KV-1S just fine. 

 

All things considered, the Germans will have two tanks, that are clearly superior to anything the Soviets have, Tiger I and Panther D (with surface-hardened armor and without reliability issues), one that is generally on par, Panzer IV, as well as the ultimate sniper in form of the Ferdinand, which will not have to deal with its two main achilles heels: Enemy infantry and poor reliability. 

I don't buy the premise, that Soviet equipment will be superior. 

[Lofte]

On 6/14/2019 at 7:35 PM, beresford said:

The arrival of the short-barrelled Pz IV is unlikely to change this perception.

If you mean Pz-4 G - it had long-barreled gun.

 

Edited June 15, 2019 by Lofte

[SCG_SchleiferGER]

On 6/14/2019 at 6:56 PM, Finkeren said:

All things considered, the Germans will have two tanks, that are clearly superior to anything the Soviets have, Tiger I and Panther D (with surface-hardened armor and without reliability issues), one that is generally on par, Panzer IV, as well as the ultimate sniper in form of the Ferdinand, which will not have to deal with its two main achilles heels: Enemy infantry and poor reliability. 

I don't buy the premise, that Soviet equipment will be superior. 

Not so sure of the reliability part.

I just had a Tiger break its transmission with a loud bang after a steep climb.

I don't want to know how easy it will be to break the final drives on Panther, considering that you only had to turn hard and suddenly in third gear.

Edited June 15, 2019 by SchleiferGER

[Finkeren]

9 hours ago, SchleiferGER said:

Not so sure of the reliability part.

I just had a Tiger break its transmission with a loud bang after a steep climb.

I don't want to know how easy it will be to break the final drives on Panther, considering that you only had to turn hard and suddenly in third gear.

 

Honestly, having that kind of fidelity would be awesome - for both sides obviously. 

[69th_chuter]

12 hours ago, Lofte said:

If you mean Pz-4 G - it had long-barreled gun.

 

Do we know if it's an L/43 or L/48?  Just throwing a ruler up on the screen I'm going to say the L/43.  The skirts arrived on the production line at about the same time as the L/48 or just a couple of months before the H.

[Lofte]

3 hours ago, chuter said:

Do we know if it's an L/43 or L/48?

Don't know, but I think there was little difference between them. Both could destroy T-34 at 1000-1500 m.

[SCG_Slater]

On 6/14/2019 at 1:56 PM, Finkeren said:

Trust me: Having played around quite a bit with the new T-34, the effect of the dual roles of gunner/commander is already felt. Unlike the earlier semi-modeled T-34, it takes several seconds to move between unbuttoned and gunsight view. 

 

The poor ergonomics for the loader also results in lower rate of fire for the 76.2mm than for the much heavier 88mm in the Tiger. 

 

The superiority of German doctrine will not really be felt at least until we have some form of infantry that we can coordinate with. 

 

Also: I'm pretty sure we are getting a late long-barreled Panzer IV, which will be about of par with the T-34 and be able to hurt the KV-1S just fine. 

 

All things considered, the Germans will have two tanks, that are clearly superior to anything the Soviets have, Tiger I and Panther D (with surface-hardened armor and without reliability issues), one that is generally on par, Panzer IV, as well as the ultimate sniper in form of the Ferdinand, which will not have to deal with its two main achilles heels: Enemy infantry and poor reliability. 

I don't buy the premise, that Soviet equipment will be superior. 

 

The DEVS has already (sadly) announced that infantry is not going to happen.

[Velxra]

The 50mm Panzer barrel barely does the job just like it did in real life. Which is why the 75mm and 88mm were used to crack open Russian tanks. For T34s, aim for the ammo rack just below the turret on the sides along the track. That flat surface down there allows for better penetration and if the side is not an option aim for the lower glacius.