Dooga Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I'm not sure Pearl Harbor brought the US into the war *in Europe* - but YMMV...
79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) they can call them the way they like: Arabic, Roman, Aztec numerals. Who cares? Aztec numerals? Now that's an idea! Let's see if I remember how to write in Aztec: Dead dog, monster head, flayed enemy, skull, skull, cut heart and another dog ribcage, and that's only to write "number". I think the PG rating may go up a bit... Edited February 16, 2013 by Friendly_flyer
Freycinet Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I'm not sure Pearl Harbor brought the US into the war *in Europe* - but YMMV... Germany declared war on the US after the US declared war on her ally, Japan. The UK and the US then decided that Germany was the bigger foe and should be dealt with as priority no. 1.
Dooga Posted February 16, 2013 Posted February 16, 2013 I stand corrected... although there is one level of indirection there.
Cavemanhead Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) If you are Dutch maybe you should "give a shit" about Pearl Harbor since it brought the US into the war, which basically is the reason why your country is not under German or Russian control today. I think your grandparents gave a shit, but you are of course allowed to forget all about it. Just doesn't come across as very clever. And as for Roman numerals? - Why would anyone want to "unlearn" them? They are cool and elegant, of course they should stay for the development updates. Doesn't necessarily have to be the lowest common denominator that sets the standards, does it? I don't think anyone is suggesting we all "unlearn Roman Numerals"... Not sure what you mean by "lowest common denominator"... Just simple logic. There's a reason scientists and engineers don't use Roman Numerals to convery technical data. It's because it makes no sense in a technical context whatsoever. I've been an engineer for 25 years and have never reported or seen technical data reported with Roman Numerals. It just obfuscates and confuses the data for quick sorting, pointers, etc... It's "cute" and that's about it. It's cuteness is quickly getting old. The whole thing just seems silly. Edited February 17, 2013 by Caveman
FlatSpinMan Posted February 17, 2013 Posted February 17, 2013 Leave the WW2 arguments out. OP's point has been made. Some agree, others don't. It's up to the Devs now.
VeryOldMan Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 I don't think anyone is suggesting we all "unlearn Roman Numerals"... Not sure what you mean by "lowest common denominator"... Just simple logic. There's a reason scientists and engineers don't use Roman Numerals to convery technical data. It's because it makes no sense in a technical context whatsoever. I've been an engineer for 25 years and have never reported or seen technical data reported with Roman Numerals. It just obfuscates and confuses the data for quick sorting, pointers, etc... It's "cute" and that's about it. It's cuteness is quickly getting old. The whole thing just seems silly. Well I am engineer for 14 years and everytime I unveil a new version or PART of somethign I always seen it numbered with roman numerals.
79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Well I am engineer for 14 years and everytime I unveil a new version or PART of somethign I always seen it numbered with roman numerals. Roman numerals for the important stuff that will always be far in between (like weekly?), Arabic numerals for the run-of-the-mill things that run in their hundreds or thousands.
Heywooood Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 well...as long as we all agree that 8x10 is 100 ther'll be no trouble from me...
Laser Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 The foreword to a book has roman numerals for page numbers. As a sign to show something that is 'before' the actual text. The Developer diary is also something to show before the actual simulator is released. So roman numbers makes sense - "it's before the beginning"
flyingblind Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 The reason Roman Numerals are not so good for applications where math is involved is there is no zero. But for sequentially numbering they are absolutely fine. But then I still mourn the demise of the imperial systems of measurement, pounds, shillings and pence, feet and inches, ounces etc, etc. Curse Napoleon.
falstaff Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Roman numerals are often used in an index, or sometimes appendices, so you have a combination i.e. Chapter 2.iii There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
archer11 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I hope they keep the roman numbers. A few years ago, I bought the first XXIV comic books of Asterix (those written by Goscinny) as I never got one, when I was a kid and always had to borrow them from friends. The books were numbered with roman numbers that's how we learned them. I was quite angry, when I realized, that they do not use them anymore in the new editions... by the way: XLII. Nuff said.
VeryOldMan Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Is this thread still going?! There is nothing more relevant for discussion and a community to be kept alive must have constant iteraction. Dumb interaction is better than no interactiont aht would make a lot of peopel to even forget the game until its released.
dburne Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 There is nothing more relevant for discussion and a community to be kept alive must have constant iteraction. Dumb interaction is better than no interactiont aht would make a lot of peopel to even forget the game until its released. Indeed - I have noticed with more threads seeming to be getting locked, the quiter this forum is becoming...
FlatSpinMan Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Yep, we are locking quite a few to avoid the endless flame wars, sniping, and preemptive whining that seems so common in flight sim threads.. It's a balancing act though. Hopefully there'll be another developers diary entry soon to keep us all going.
Bearcat Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 IMO it is better to have moments of little activity at all than to have the nonsense that tries to rear it's head here. Negative activity just for the heck of it does more harm than good in the long run. Silly beats negative by a mile. At least you can get a chckle out of silly. Some threads get locked pretty quicky because either the participants' the subject matter or both have historically proven that it is almost impossible to discuss somethings with some people for more than a few pages sometimes less than that.
VeryOldMan Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Well, you cannot say that Roman numerals and arabic numerals have such fierce fanatic defenders as RAF and LW have . I for once, if not seeign any new posts on a forum, loose interest of it pretty fast and can take me dozens of months before I remember to check again the forum. That is why I said that a single joking post is better than no posting at all for weeks.
nynek Posted February 23, 2013 Posted February 23, 2013 I don't think anyone is suggesting we all "unlearn Roman Numerals"... Not sure what you mean by "lowest common denominator"... Just simple logic. There's a reason scientists and engineers don't use Roman Numerals to convery technical data. It's because it makes no sense in a technical context whatsoever. I've been an engineer for 25 years and have never reported or seen technical data reported with Roman Numerals. It just obfuscates and confuses the data for quick sorting, pointers, etc... It's "cute" and that's about it. It's cuteness is quickly getting old. The whole thing just seems silly. I do understand that You Caveman never been inside movie theater or watch a movie from begining to the end. On the other hand dividing an inch into a thousand pieces THAT is silly (I'm talking about Your engineering background ). As long as there is ANY talk about WWII there will BE Roman numerals. First and foremost WWII was European Theatre. Since it was European that means every educated man in that conflict knew at least one of the three foreign languages. Latin(look at Life of Brian by Monty Python), French as official tong of diplomacy and then You have something like this : German or Italian/English and yes that is correct order. Any middle age European knows what MMXIII is because we all got that broad knowledge in primary schools and that kind of science is not taugth on 2 years engineering courses about building a straight wall.
flyingblind Posted February 23, 2013 Posted February 23, 2013 Yes, if you have two beans and take two away you have none or nothing which the Romans understood perfectly well whereas the aramaic zero whilst also representing that was the transition between positive and negative values which opened up a whole world of mathematical concepts.
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