Need some clarification on how to use advanced engine controls.

[Finkeren]

Has it to be added to the Russian planes yet because this is just not true in game.The russian planes can fly around all day long on high throttle settings and rpm

 

with mamaged radiators which i would think is combat settings.German planes have this engine  limited throttle/rpm combat settings half an hour, wep 5min.Is this 

 

true to RL i'm taking about the russian plane's.

 

First: Keep in mind, that in BoS we're flying in very low temperatures, which not only makes it easier to cool the engines but also has the effect of actually making the engines have higher power outputs than they otherwise would (which is at least part of the explanation why the planes have higher top speeds at low altitude than their official specifications)

 

Secondly, I'm not sure, why you'd say, that the Soviet planes don't overheat. Try flying at low altitude with full throttle and RPM in the Yak-1 and just close your water radiator half way. You'll be trailing white "smoke" from your boiling coolant in minutes.

 

The La-5 can indeed run almost unlimited on max throttle and RPM, but switch on the boost and even fully opened cowl flaps won't keep you from overheating.

 

AFAIK the limits on the ATA of the Daimler Benz engines aren't directly related to cooling, it's more of a wear-and-tear thing of running the engine above its rating for an extended period of time IIRC.

[t4trouble]

Secondly, I'm not sure, why you'd say, that the Soviet planes don't overheat. Try flying at low altitude with full throttle and RPM in the Yak-1 and just close your water radiator half way. You'll be trailing white "smoke" from your boiling coolant in minutes.

 

 

I didn't say that...

 

 

 

The russian planes can fly around all day long on high throttle settings and rpm   with mamaged radiators

 

Well since i've been flying yak's and laggs not much of the la5 as of yet i have no problem flying around with high settings till i land or be blown out of the sky never blown an engine

 

through over stress or over heating.I'm on about using constant combat settings has no ill effect on you're engine.

Edited July 3, 2014 by t4trouble

[Matt]

Only the planes with the 105 engine can be run indefinately with open radiators. But i've read nothing about any limits for that engine.Flying around with fully open radiators all the time is not an option anyway, because you lose a lot of performance that way.

 

La-5 and Il-2 overheat very willingly when run at maximum boost/RPM.

[Finkeren]

Ok. I misread your statement then. Yes, you can fly with full throttle/RPM all day long, if you keep your radiators open (by how much varies depending on air speed and altitude) only the La-5 with boost on produces enough heat, that it can't be kept cool (at least not in my experience)

 

The thing is: Opening the radiators creates drag, and therefore you don't necessarily get the best performance by simply slamming open the throttle and keeping the RPM on max.

Edited July 3, 2014 by Finkeren

[SpookyRiddle]

So in order to make this even easier for a rookie to wrap his head around the fighters:

109s: Automated Mixture, Pitch, Superchargers and radiators, with the option to override some systems although not necessarily crucial so long as temperature is kept within acceptable ranges.

 

Lagg 3 and 5 + Yak1: Everything is manual, with the option to select the boost on the Lagg-5 for some increased performance below 2500m at the cost of increased heat buildup.

 

Did I miss anything?
 

[Finkeren]

Seems about right, though I'd like to add, that overriding the automations of the 109 is not so much done to keep temperature down (the radiators are thermostat regulated and overheating is rarely an issue) but rather to tweak a bit of extra performance out of the engine, allowing it to run a bit hotter than would otherwise be allowed or simply to keep the engine running in case of system malfunction (something that's not (yet) modelled in BoS)

[-TBC-AeroAce]

On the topic of mixture, In real life you set it based on the exsuast exit temperature. So did these planes have that ??? or would they have just set it based on altitude??

[Finkeren]

Well that is kinda what we're doing looking at flame colour.

 

It's impractical in a combat environment though, so I guess they had a chart of presets and otherwise listened to the engine.

[SpookyRiddle]

Is there any nice tricks to maintaining a good fuel mixture in the soviet aircraft mid-combat without having the canopy open?

 

Cheers

[Finkeren]

Not really.

 

In Rise of Flight adjusting mixture was easy because all the aircraft had fixed-pitch wooden propellers, so the effects of setting mixture could be read directly on the tachometer (RPM-gauge)

 

In BoS the constant speed propellers completely drown out the small fluctuations in RPM, and we don't have exhaust thermometers, so the only things we have to go by are engine sounds (which is useless for fine adjustments) and exhaust flames (that requires sticking your head out into the propwash.

 

That's why I recommend you find your own settings by testing is solo flights and either write them down or memorize them for the individual aircraft.