PC for Oculus rift

[Marvel]

Hi folks, I am about to buy a nec PC for flight sims, especially BoX and DCS and in the next future I would to purchase the Oculus Rift also.

I would have made a couple of configurations and I wuold to know which You consider most appropriate:

 

1) https://www.ankermann.com/it/configuratore-pc.htm?c=dfe454d67334f9b9e7ea31e0d95fa8b4

2) https://www.ankermann.com/en/desktop-pc-configurator.htm?c=efa0f86eecfa5a6f13fbfa81e170c990&c=efa0f86eecfa5a6f13fbfa81e170c990

 

Many thanks for your help!

 

Ciao!

 

Marco

[Alonzo]

There are a few other threads with more details, so have a quick look for folks also building PCs. Of the two you linked, I would get the first one (9700K with GTX 1080). However, I think neither is quite right. If I were building for VR flight sims I would look for:

• Fast single-core performance. 9600K or 9700K plus liquid cooling and good motherboard for overclocking.
• Fast 3200mhz memory.
• Fastest GPU you can afford, at least GTX 1080, probably today I would order an RTX 2070 or better.
• All other components matter little, get a single large cheap SSD and you'll be fine.

[Marvel]

Hi Alonzo, thanks for your reply. Looking on internet I found this also:

 

https://www.pcassemblati.eu/computer-extreme-edition/1030-pc-assemblato-intel-i9-9900k-hdd-2tb-ssd-m2-500-ddr4-32gb-rtx2080-8gb.html

 

I'm not an expert but it would seem like a good pc...

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Ciao!

[Dutch2]

CPU: Read this post about CPU performance in BoX VR, beware you have to overclock 5+  I would focus on a 9XXX-K generation not the 8700K,  because it is soldered, so no need for a delid. 

Vcard: For Vcard the GTX1080, as an owner of this card I know for BoX VR this Vcard is at the entry level, the RTX2080(ti) would be a much better choice. 

RAM: get the 3200mhz but 3000mhz would also be sufficient. 

SSD: Also using a SSD on a SATA port or a M2 NVME did, in my testings, make no difference in performance. 

Mobo: most important get a Z390 mobo that can handle the power you will consume when OC. Some testers publish the heat-profiles and at that point you see the low budget z390 Asrock is overheating. 

 

edit why not build a PC by yourself? 

Edited May 22, 2019 by Dutch2

[Alonzo]

1 hour ago, markino said:

Hi Alonzo, thanks for your reply. Looking on internet I found this also:

 

https://www.pcassemblati.eu/computer-extreme-edition/1030-pc-assemblato-intel-i9-9900k-hdd-2tb-ssd-m2-500-ddr4-32gb-rtx2080-8gb.html

 

I'm not an expert but it would seem like a good pc...

 

9900k is a great CPU but a lot of extra money for a final little bit of performance. The ML120 liquid cooler is crap. You want a 280mm radiator cooler. Does the website let you customize? I would go for 9700K, liquid cooler, RTX 2080.

[chiliwili69]

On 5/22/2019 at 9:15 PM, Alonzo_LW said:

I would go for 9700K, liquid cooler, RTX 2080

 

I think (only think) that the new KF ending processors (with not integrated GPU) could be a bit better for the overclocking. But I have not really any facts about that.

Does anybody know why a 9700KF could be better than a 9700K?

Edited May 24, 2019 by chiliwili69

[TUS_Samuel]

I'll wait until they use saved die space for cache in new 9700KFC.

[Alonzo]

8 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

I think (only think) that the new KF ending processors (with not integrated CPU) could be a bit better for the overclocking. But I have not really any facts about that.

Does anybody know why a 9700KF could be better than a 9700K?

 

I think you mean without integrated GPU -- I hadn't actually heard about these. The usual way these work is that Intel tries to manufacture the highest end chips (9900K) and then 'bins' them or downgrades them if they don't meet 9900K specs. It sounds like they have a bunch of silicon where the GPU didn't make the cut, and are selling them as the KF chips. Previously they have "fused off" the inactive features of the chip, meaning they are totally dead electrically and don't draw power or generate heat. This would mean that yes, a 9700KF might overclock higher due to creating less heat. But...it might also be 'worse' silicon in other ways. Overall I suspect it will be the Silicon Lottery again, but if you save a bit of money on a KF processor and throw that money into better liquid cooling, that could work well.

[Dutch2]

11 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

I think (only think) that the new KF ending processors (with not integrated CPU) could be a bit better for the overclocking. But I have not really any facts about that.

Does anybody know why a 9700KF could be better than a 9700K?

 

here at HWInfo the did some testings and there is no improvement at stock or at overclocking. But the new quad-core i3-9350KF can be an very interesting for the budget players as it can be overclocked to 5Ghz and does not need any delid. Sorry only in Dutch. 

 

 

edit, here somthing from Tomshardware https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900kf-disabled-graphics,6004-2.html if you can read through the disturbing advertisings and irritating popups. 

Edited May 23, 2019 by Dutch2

[dburne]

I currently run IL-2 in my Rift S at Ultra settings, and get good performance.

Specs on my rig in sig. I do have the i9 9900k running 5.1 Ghz on all 8 cores.

I also have my 2080 Ti overclocked, it typically runs between 2.05-2.1 Ghz depending on temp.

[Alonzo]

5 hours ago, Dutch2 said:

edit, here somthing from Tomshardware https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900kf-disabled-graphics,6004-2.html if you can read through the disturbing advertisings and irritating popups. 

 

I recommend uBlock Origin to deal with the ads. Interwebs are unusable without. From that article:

 

Our Core i9-9900KF is a cherry piece of silicon, though. We were able to attain an all-core 5.242 GHz overclock with no AVX offset and a 1.37V Vcore setting. Paired with our custom loop, the chip hovered at an outstanding 71°C during extended AVX stress testing, highlighting the combined benefits of the -9900KF's solder TIM and the lapped IHS.

 

Holy crap that's an awesome chip.

[Marvel]

Thanks for the informations guys. I hope to do a good choice for the new pc.

 

Ciao!

 

Marco

[Dutch2]

On 5/24/2019 at 12:52 AM, Alonzo_LW said:

 

I recommend uBlock Origin to deal with the ads. Interwebs are unusable without. From that article:

 

Our Core i9-9900KF is a cherry piece of silicon, though. We were able to attain an all-core 5.242 GHz overclock with no AVX offset and a 1.37V Vcore setting. Paired with our custom loop, the chip hovered at an outstanding 71°C during extended AVX stress testing, highlighting the combined benefits of the -9900KF's solder TIM and the lapped IHS.

 

Holy crap that's an awesome chip.

But keep in your mind this is not what the average KF customer get as: but unfortunately also makes apples-to-apples comparisons with retail CPUs impossible.

BTW, I do use that uBlock tool and and user agent at home, only not at my work, indeed using these tool Tomshardware can be read normally without flashing adds or very slow page. 

 

More and more I do read same priced and no extra OC. I would advise if, this KF is not being cheaper, get the normal K version, always a handy for Vcard troubleshooting.

One exception is the i3-9350KF as a seems (if it can reach 5+ Ghz), a real nice CPU for flying BoX in VR at the lowest cost. Combine this with a low budget board like OC low budget mobo , 3200mhz RAM (check what RAM is being advised at the suppliers website), a cheap RTX2070 version and your are in the VR BoX world at an acceptable level. 

As this i3-9350KF is a quad core, it even does not need an expensive watercooler, big PSU and the advantage above an older 8xxx series & older, it does not need a delid to go for the 5+ Ghz.  Look at its single core performance at OC https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-9350KF-vs-Intel-Core-i9-9900K/m775825vs4028

 

Edit: the i3-9350 can even be higher overclocked then 5Ghz,  https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/9297/16/kijk-mam-zonder-gpu-intel-i5-9600kf-i7-9700kf-en-i9-9900kf-review---maar-de-i3-9350kf-steelt-de-show-overklokken use goole translator Dutch to your language of choice. 

Edited May 25, 2019 by Dutch2