Multiplayer attendance

[Herne]

6 minutes ago, theOden said:

Reading the pro-MP posters here clearly shows MP is about kicking butts being crap-hot e-pilot.

As a singleplayer dude I'm more mission oriented and really don't care if I down another player or AI as long as my flight completes the mission assigned.

Such missions is only to be found in coop-MP and that is not available in BoX in practise from what I've seen/read.

 

What you all describe above it what goes under the term "AirQuake".

 

Coop is dependent on the private team's mission builder guy (one or two usually) and with only a select few able to handle the mission editor that era died fast with BoX.

 

If sunday nights from about 1900 UK Time (BST) suits your availability, then I think you might enjoy what's on offer from ACG.

 

Its very much squad and mission oriented. A briefing for each squadron will be available a day or two before you fly the mission. You'll need to be on comms via their own TS. All you need to do is drop a post in their forum declaring your interest, and someone will invite you to come along and see what you think.

 

https://www.aircombatgroup.co.uk/

[Rattlesnake]

26 minutes ago, theOden said:

Reading the pro-MP posters here clearly shows MP is about kicking butts being crap-hot e-pilot.

As a singleplayer dude I'm more mission oriented and really don't care if I down another player or AI as long as my flight completes the mission assigned.

Such missions is only to be found in coop-MP and that is not available in BoX in practise from what I've seen/read.

 

What you all describe above it what goes under the term "AirQuake".

 

Coop is dependent on the private team's mission builder guy (one or two usually) and with only a select few able to handle the mission editor that era died fast with BoX.

MP is (ideally) about practicing an endlessly fascinating combat system that was historically used to deal death in the worst times God ever let happen on Earth, but is now adapted to be a sport/art practiced with your fellow enthusiasts in peace. I think of it as analogous to fencing or kendo in many respects. Or at least chess.

When you're really on your game and in a dogfight with someone else who is flying well, it's an amazing feeling. You actually get into what is called a "flow state",  like one might experience when sparring, meditating, or otherwise practicing a way. Hell, I've actually had some useful life lessons driven home by years of online flying, such as it's worthwhile to keep on maneuvering no matter how bleak the situation looks, and your performance is enhanced by embracing the process and not obsessing over the outcome.

As people who like old warplanes in a world of people who mostly don't give a flip we are ALL brothers. Brother, your words strike me as that of someone who believes or has been made to believe that you can't get good enough at the dogfighting end of things to enjoy it. Let me assure you that this is not true. When you have the principles explained to you in a clear and organized manner by a good source and practice systematically it begins to link together and "click". You'll start to make connections and do things while maneuvering the pixels that you once wouldn't have believed you could learn to do. And you'll have something to think about that is engrossing for a lifetime.
 

Edited April 26, 2019 by Rattlesnake

[Feathered_IV]

28 minutes ago, theOden said:

Reading the pro-MP posters here clearly shows MP is about kicking butts being crap-hot e-pilot.

 

Mostly its about griefing, the need to spoil someone else's day and having the last word.

[Rattlesnake]

38 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

 

Mostly its about griefing, the need to spoil someone else's day and having the last word.

False. It can be, if people insist on being terribly crude and juvenile, but at it's best it is about the joy and competition of the aerial dance. Let us strive for the best.
I have a fantastic fight Pfalz versus Camel fight on my harddrive I haven't posted yet which I didn't win, didn't go into it expecting to win, but it sparked joy for both combatants. Great example of this. Will post later, have to edit it a bit to spare everyone the sheer torture of listening to me "singing" along to "Flags and Lies" as I flew ?

One of the best friends I have today I made because when playing game many years ago I got roped by a zoom beyond what I thought was possible in the game. Repeatedly. Now there are lots of ways to respond to this. One is a profanity laced cheating accusation, one is saying "meh, [e] this game anyway". But another is "That's amazing, how u do that?" And that has made all the difference.

Edited April 26, 2019 by SYN_Haashashin
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[SYN_Haashashin]

45 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

Mostly its about griefing, the need to spoil someone else's day and having the last word.

So wrong. Placing all MP players in that "category" is simply wrong and kinda insulting to some of us if not most.

 

I am a SP mostly content developer and actually never play SP other than for testing my work. I am a MP player because I like to fly with my friends at the SYN, nothing to do with what you say and I think you and others should think twice before placing such statements. Sure there are people that do that (as any other MP aspect of multiple games) but again, insinuate that MP community is mostly looking for that is...well wrong.

 

What its clear its that SP vs MP is not the point here so I will recommend to get back on topic. Both SP and MP players have their reasons to use one or another, and trying to convice the other party that yours its best and that they should try it is simply useless and usually doesnt end up well nor for the topic, that will be locked, or for those involved in such dicussions since usually those get very personal.

 

1 hour ago, theOden said:

Coop is dependent on the private team's mission builder guy (one or two usually) and with only a select few able to handle the mission editor that era died fast with BoX.

There are tools to set up/make Coop missions or SP mission, very simple to use and no need to know the ME at all if you dont want to (I know of at least 3 squads using it for their internal Coops campaigns)

Haash

 

[RedKestrel]

3 hours ago, theOden said:

Reading the pro-MP posters here clearly shows MP is about kicking butts being crap-hot e-pilot.

As a singleplayer dude I'm more mission oriented and really don't care if I down another player or AI as long as my flight completes the mission assigned.

Such missions is only to be found in coop-MP and that is not available in BoX in practise from what I've seen/read.

 

What you all describe above it what goes under the term "AirQuake".

 

Coop is dependent on the private team's mission builder guy (one or two usually) and with only a select few able to handle the mission editor that era died fast with BoX.

There are a lot of players that 'fly to the mission'. The KOTA server seems to have a higher than average number to be honest, and I think it mostly has to do with the flight times to target forcing more investment in any single flight, but it might also be the 'server culture'. Combat BoX seems more hit or miss for coordination when I'm on but its there sometimes.

 It's not too difficult to assemble ad-hoc strike packages in chat, or ensure a constant stream of attacks to hammer a target. If I spawn in and see someone else spawn in at the same time, a simple exchange in the chat is often enough to decide on a target we can go to together. Talking via text chat is awkward but it works. 

As an example, one mission on a KOTA late war map, I spawned in in a Yak-7B. I looked to my right and there were 5 A-20s getting ready to launch, along with a P-47 already on take off roll. I sent a little chat message offering to fly escort, they said sure and told me their target. The A20s took off (in formation!) and I followed them up. The P-47 joined up with us. We both took up station above the bombers and wove back and forth looking for enemy fighters. The A20s took an oblique route to the target to avoid interception. The target itself was already a bit of a furball when we arrived, with friendly attackers and fighters mixing it up. Some German fighters turned to meet us and we engaged them while the bombers made their run on the target. 

I got some hits in on a FW but he got away from me, so I turned back to help our bombers. I latched on to one of our A20s that had gotten beat up by flak and flew cover for him as he limped home. Unfortunately, my Internet connection conked out just after we left the target area so I don't know if he ever got home.

I didn't get any kills or any points at all but that was the best mission I flew that night. 

its not always like that but it happens frequently enough that for me its worth it. Getting onto the server and getting on the chat is key.