-=PHX=-Satch Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 It is posibble to get this views in the final versión of the BOS without sweetfx? The graphics are amazing but actually are hidden by the excessive brightness i think.
J4SCrisZeri Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) excellent result, but maybe needs some tweaking on the rgb values. your snow looks violet... Edited March 3, 2014 by J4Scriszeri 3
71st_AH_Hooves Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Jason has already reported that there will NOT be anything in the default game, but that he is looking to have a special FLIGHT FX gui created similar to how it was created for RoF. IMHO that is a much better solution as it provides a much more customizable setup that is seperate from development of the game. Keeping the devs focused on providing the best sim in the shortest amount of time I have EVER seen in not only flightsim development, but high fidelity games in general.
-=PHX=-Satch Posted March 3, 2014 Author Posted March 3, 2014 excellent result, but maybe needs some tweaking on the rgb values. your snow looks violet... Is Fifi´s preset :D I think look very well.
smink1701 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Jason has already reported that there will NOT be anything in the default game, but that he is looking to have a special FLIGHT FX gui created similar to how it was created for RoF. IMHO that is a much better solution as it provides a much more customizable setup that is seperate from development of the game. Keeping the devs focused on providing the best sim in the shortest amount of time I have EVER seen in not only flightsim development, but high fidelity games in general. Hooves, i was finally able to get FFX working and really like it. I use Fifi's and Jason's settings but was wondering if there are any others out there I should try. Also, what is your method for tweaking the settings ... do you move the sliders and then open the game to see the effect or do you work with a screenshot?
smink1701 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Since this is such a polular topic and adds so much to the look of BOS, I was wondering if maybe this should be pinned? 2
W1ndy Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 A repository for SweetFX settings texts might be a good idea. Tips, hints. I'd attach mine but I'm far from settled on it.
smink1701 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 A repository for SweetFX settings texts might be a good idea. Tips, hints. I'd attach mine but I'm far from settled on it. Yes… That's what I was thinking
71st_AH_Hooves Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Hooves, i was finally able to get FFX working and really like it. I use Fifi's and Jason's settings but was wondering if there are any others out there I should try. Also, what is your method for tweaking the settings ... do you move the sliders and then open the game to see the effect or do you work with a screenshot? yeah pretty much, I have made slight changes here and there so I have my own preset but Its all open to your own taste.
Allons Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 It might be useful to make an empty thread pinned just in case this forum comes into water.. 1
Fifi Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 excellent result, but maybe needs some tweaking on the rgb values. your snow looks violet... Click on picture, it doesn't look violet
Georgio Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 To be honest I found by turning down the gamma a bit ingame you get a pretty good result which looks realistic. My Win7 didn't like SweetFX at all...
ParaB Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 To be honest I found by turning down the gamma a bit ingame you get a pretty good result which looks realistic. Yep, that's what I did, too.
Mewt Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Fifi your preset is great - but it is a bit violet. I think you need to cal your monitor 1
J4SCrisZeri Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Click on picture, it doesn't look violet the enlarged pic shifts on a blueish tone, but still a little bit violet-like for my eye (and on my screen at work. It is a pre-press calibrated screen so it might visualize it in a different way...) Yet, the rest is amazing: detail, shadows, "feel", lights
6BLbrando Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Doesn't the snow's colour depend on the time of day, position of the sun, etc?
ST_ami7b5 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 I wouldn't go without Sweet/FlightFX anymore... Using Fifi's preset: no violet IMHO. Also, there is a huge difference in sharpness...
SYN_Saintblu Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Here is my contribution to this pinned thread. I got nuthin'.
cobbman11 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Ok, I'll start. This might have been covered already, but it's worth reiterating. Using the launcher with SweetFX will likely result in an immediate crash for most users. Launch the game directly using il-2.exe to avoid this.
Requiem Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 I've got a stickied thread here and I use SweetFX (although I'm unable to record with it on for my videos). I can put SweetFX info in that topic no worries. 1
-=PHX=-Satch Posted March 4, 2014 Author Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Excellent preset Fifi Edited March 4, 2014 by Satchenko
smink1701 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 OK ... here's the deal. It seems that many here who have been able to use SweetFX / FlightFX have called it a game changer - including me. It also seems that many are not using it either because they aren't familiar, don't care or have tried but can't get it to work and gave up. I can get it working but after every update it takes me a lot of trial and error and restarting the game, etc, etc. I am no tech savant who is qualified to provide the guidelines or links to take full advantage of this invaluable tool. I know there have been multiple topics started on this subject (some by me) so I thought it would be good to have "one stop shopping" for all those interested in what it is how to install common fixes what all the setting do best approach to tweaking settings fave presets, like Fifi's
DD_Arthur Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Ok, I'll start. This might have been covered already, but it's worth reiterating. Using the launcher with SweetFX will likely result in an immediate crash for most users. Launch the game directly using il-2.exe to avoid this. I thought that was last weekend and it wasn't a problem with SweetFX as such but to do with FlightFX. This weekends access with the Stuka has been fine. Launching game normally and been having no problems. @smink; is this the sort of thing you'd find useful. http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=33795 or this; http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=278&t=34103
Cheesepilot Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 OK ... here's the deal. It seems that many here who have been able to use SweetFX / FlightFX have called it a game changer - including me. It also seems that many are not using it either because they aren't familiar, don't care or have tried but can't get it to work and gave up. I can get it working but after every update it takes me a lot of trial and error and restarting the game, etc, etc. I am no tech savant who is qualified to provide the guidelines or links to take full advantage of this invaluable tool. I know there have been multiple topics started on this subject (some by me) so I thought it would be good to have "one stop shopping" for all those interested in what it is how to install common fixes what all the setting do best approach to tweaking settings fave presets, like Fifi's Cheers for that Smink,damn fine idea. Cheese
johncage Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 ground details might be obscured by a post processing effect that simulates atmospheric perspective. in the sweetf/x shot, you can see the details of the ground more clearly. would depend on several variables in atmospheric condition factors.
smink1701 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 I thought that was last weekend and it wasn't a problem with SweetFX as such but to do with FlightFX. This weekends access with the Stuka has been fine. Launching game normally and been having no problems. @smink; is this the sort of thing you'd find useful. http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=33795 or this; http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=278&t=34103 Thanks arthursmedley Cheers for that Smink,damn fine idea. Cheese Thanks No1
Fifi Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Hmm...don't think my monitor needs calibrating. It's an high end Samsung pro quite known for its color fidelity. But maybe my eyes? While i see what some are meaning by violet, i wouldn't call it violet. More a very slightly pinky reflect on snow...but it's close to nitpicking I will eventually tweak more my SweetFX file, to whiten the snow. But at this point, it's really on the edge and touching one thing can brake an other...
Emgy Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) Hmm...don't think my monitor needs calibrating. It's an high end Samsung pro quite known for its color fidelity. But maybe my eyes? Actually it's pretty common for men to have colour perception that, for a limited range of colour, somewhat varies from the "calibrated norm". (especially with age ) Edited March 4, 2014 by Calvamos 1
Picchio Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) No violets here, but that lumasharpen is very out of place, if I may express a critique... Also, the default colour balance is more photorealistic (and I mean it in a literal way), at least for that particular screenshot. White balance is very important when it comes to such a scene, and for what I've been able to see, the game reproduces the lighting (given the weather conditions that are now present) in a way that perhaps could take a little more into account the blue colour of the clear sky "lighting up" the ground and the scenery... Another thing that defenitely needs adjustments is the ambient light intensity during dawn and dusk, but that can't just be altered with SweetFX without compromising everything else. Edited March 4, 2014 by Picchio 2
J4SCrisZeri Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Watching it on a samsung galaxy 3 smartphone rigjt now and the violet-purple dominant has gone FIFI will you share your txt settings file? I cant use flight fx since it destroys my BOS *every* time I try it. But sweet fx 1.4 works well for me with another game so I may want to use it with BOS too since the results are such a beauty! Thank you
-=PHX=-Satch Posted March 4, 2014 Author Posted March 4, 2014 (edited) I recommend the fifi´s preset for ROF too Satch (president of the fans club of fifi´s presets) Edited March 4, 2014 by Satchenko
LLv44_Mprhead Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Okey, I have been meaning to ask this for some time now, so here we go... What's the deal with this SweetFX? I mean, if it's something that most use, or should use and doesn't take up that much resources, why it's not build into game?
smink1701 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 Okey, I have been meaning to ask this for some time now, so here we go... What's the deal with this SweetFX? I mean, if it's something that most use, or should use and doesn't take up that much resources, why it's not build into game? I asked the very same question a while back and Jason stepped in and said "Not going to happen." It would be great if someone could create an auto install version that would include a preview window of the game so you could adjust settings to see the effect the sliders have on cockpit, plane, landscape, etc.
Picchio Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) The instructions to install it within BoS have been clearly explained, and its own configuration GUI is very easy to find and use, if one doesn't feel like using a text editor. It's not and it can't be included because the people who created it did it for free. And more importantly: if a game developer decided to include it, that would arguably be a very dumb idea, because then what's the purpose of anyone in any development team being in charge of everything (and not only) related to giving the game its own look and feel in terms of artistic decisions? Decisions which can mean precise choices in colour, highlights and shadows grading and balance... ? Do you ask a movie director or a photographer to give you a tool for colour toning their own images in case you don't like them? All of this doesn't necessarily relate to BoS in terms of artistic choices but, and I think I don't just speak for myself here, their own colour balance is quite on spot, in terms of photorealism, which is what they are clearly striving for in terms of "look"... and photorealism shouldn't be about tastes. Edited March 5, 2014 by Picchio
smink1701 Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 I know we are just discussing for the sake of discussing but I could not disagree more. In a number of other games there are multiple settings to customize the look of the game. And since there are about a million different monitors that are all calibrated a little differently, what the developers are seeing on their screens may be very different from what I'm seeing on mine. Finally, the popularity of SFX / FFX shows how many people are embracing the ability to customize the look of the game. If something was built into the game settings I think many (including me) would see it as a good thing. Jason has stated that nothing like SFX will be incorporated in the game so thank goodness for SFX / FFX and settings guru's like Fifi. 2
Picchio Posted March 5, 2014 Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) In a number of other games there are multiple settings to customize the look of the game. And since there are about a million different monitors that are all calibrated a little differently, what the developers are seeing on their screens may be very different from what I'm seeing on mine. Finally, the popularity of SFX / FFX shows how many people are embracing the ability to customize the look of the game. Mmm... well, which games are there, that allow as much what SweetFX allows? And monitors do have standard settings, and with those standard settings in mind games are probably set, I dare to guess... As for the "embracing the ability to customize the look of the game", I think that we could at least agree on the fact that any result of those customizations is arguable. BoS is something that doesn't have much to deal with this though, like I said... nontheless, if tastes have to be, then to each his own. Edited March 5, 2014 by Picchio
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