Developer Diary, Part V

[Heywooood]

all your bases are belong to me....

[FTC_Karaya]

 

Thanks   

 

OMG !!  With this data... 

 

FW 190 Will out turn the La 5,  for sure .   

 

Er, no, what makes you think that with this data

 

FW190A-5:

takeoff weight ~4100kg

wing area: 18.30m^2

wing loading: ~225kg/m^2

 

La-5FN:

takeoff weight ~3300kg

wing area: 17.5m^2

wing loading: ~190kg/m^2

 

the FW190 will outturn an La-5? Wing and power loadings are not the be-all/end-all of FM discussions but they deliver a good rule of thumb on which aircraft will have the advantage in a continuous turn fight.

Edited January 29, 2013 by JG52Karaya

[AX2]

I think we need an aeronautical engineer . 

Can someone call to NASA? 

 

The flight models are too complex. ans have too many factors and coefficients

 

An example of other factors is.

Wing chord or  chord (aircraft) 

 

I quote some NASA data, like a rookie example 

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/geom.html

 

 

And other factor is 

Engine power/ propeller efficiency ???

 

Like a rookie example

http://www.epi-eng.com/propeller_technology/selecting_a_propeller.htm

 

At least we have

 

(Power / Weigth ) ***

(Power / Drag coefficient) ???

(Weight / Wing Area) ***

(Weight / Wing Lift  coefficient )???

(Wing chord)???

(Engine power/ propeller efficiency)???

(Propeller ...square area )???

 

 

Other example

 

At the end ...the pilot and The force need to apply on stick

 

 

 

P-51D, at corner speed, measures 48 lbs in a 3g pull. Up to 86 Lbs at 5g's.

The P-47D, OTOH, requires just 16 lbs at 3g and 27 lbs at 5g's.

 

 

 

P51D vs P47 .... which combat  pilot will be breathless in dogfight ? Which pilot will can shoot better?

 

 

 

how many Lbs?

at how many Gs ?

at any speed ?

 

Another uncertain factor...

 

 

 

The "old"  players community (IL2 / IL2 1946), just think in 2 factors

(Power / Weigth )

(Weight / Wing Area)

END!

 

And the stories they chose to listen, 

If They dislike the anecdotes in the stories

Then  they will do not listen

END!

 

But there are too many factors, and too many contradictory anecdotes.

 

I don?

Edited January 30, 2013 by Mustang

[JG4_Sputnik]

I hope the FM engine of BoS is as sophisticated as they say.

 

Which means the actual plane is calculated based on its structure, weight, power, drag etc.

So in a perfect world (which a game engine based on mathematics kind of is) we would have the actual rendered plane performance as it is in real life.

So if a Mig outturns an I16 then be it. Maybe today's mathematics does know more than subjective remembered "facts" from more than 60 years ago.

 

I'm just not sure how precisely a today's game engine can calculate such a complex real world object as a WW2 plane without exhausting a mid range pc.

I hope thought in 2014 it is pretty close to reality.

 

How can we tell? Well we can't, unfortunately.

[DD_fruitbat]

Oh my......

[FlatSpinMan]

What? Locking for the moment. Not really sure what's going on.

[FlatSpinMan]

This thread is for replies to the Developer Diary Part V.

I deleted the pic of vonPaulus and related posts. It is not directly related to the thread topic, and the picture does contravene the rules even though I don't think there was any bad intent.

 

No harm, no foul. Play on.

[HippyDruid]

Wow, such great footage! Thanks for the updates.

I can't wait to fly that MiG-3.

 

[Kling]

Flatspinman its a mission.... I dont know whats wrong with people. Noone is ever able to stay on topic.