Herne Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 The way I understand this is that among other things, it will make streaming of games virtually impossible unless you have permission within the EU. I was wondering if there were any plans to tackle this. Popular streamers and video creators, have almost certainly had a part to play in bringing new blood into IL2. Could the Dev Studio grant permission to stream without compromising any of it's other copyrights ? Even if they could how would You Tube or Twitch know if it was safe for them to allow people to publish the content ?
danielprates Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 I wonder if we will be seeing again the kind of controversy that we saw during the grunman vs pacific fighters episode.
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, =11=Herne said: The way I understand this is that among other things, it will make streaming of games virtually impossible unless you have permission within the EU. I was wondering if there were any plans to tackle this. Popular streamers and video creators, have almost certainly had a part to play in bringing new blood into IL2. Could the Dev Studio grant permission to stream without compromising any of it's other copyrights ? Even if they could how would You Tube or Twitch know if it was safe for them to allow people to publish the content ? This is directive, wait for implementation in national low.
LLv34_Temuri Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, =11=Herne said: The way I understand this is that among other things, it will make streaming of games virtually impossible unless you have permission within the EU. I was wondering if there were any plans to tackle this. Popular streamers and video creators, have almost certainly had a part to play in bringing new blood into IL2. Could the Dev Studio grant permission to stream without compromising any of it's other copyrights ? Even if they could how would You Tube or Twitch know if it was safe for them to allow people to publish the content ? You mean something like this?https://il2sturmovik.com/video-policy/
Lusekofte Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, LLv34_Temuri said: You mean something like this? This is a permission and a disclaimer that can make you as the streamer responsible if you or some one in the streaming violate the rules. And I think this will be the outcome. If you stream a game without permission , it will only be a problem if the brand / company owning the copyright choose to make it a problem
Herne Posted April 8, 2019 Author Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, LuseKofte said: This is a permission and a disclaimer that can make you as the streamer responsible if you or some one in the streaming violate the rules. And I think this will be the outcome. If you stream a game without permission , it will only be a problem if the brand / company owning the copyright choose to make it a problem So from the link Temuri provided :- " No Licensing. Generally, you cannot license your videos to any third party for a fee or other value without our approval. However, there are important exceptions: Partner programs with YouTube or the following streaming websites: own3D.tv, Ustream.tv,Twitch.tv, Justin.tv, Blip.tv (no prior permission from us required)." Article 13 won't really change anything so far as IL2 is concerned, except perhaps people will need to be careful if they mix in some music ?
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, =11=Herne said: The way I understand this is that among other things, it will make streaming of games virtually impossible unless you have permission within the EU. I was wondering if there were any plans to tackle this. Popular streamers and video creators, have almost certainly had a part to play in bringing new blood into IL2. Could the Dev Studio grant permission to stream without compromising any of it's other copyrights ? Even if they could how would You Tube or Twitch know if it was safe for them to allow people to publish the content ? https://www.article13.org/no-silly-questions
[PFR]Sarpalaxan Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Members of the EU now have 2 years to interpret those articles into they're National Law, so until then no one knows how it is actually going to work. But theoretically if you upload something protected and the rights holder decides to it could sue the platform that you uploaded it to.
Lusekofte Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, =11=Herne said: Article 13 won't really change anything so far as IL2 is concerned, except perhaps people will need to be careful if they mix in some music ? In fact music can be a problem, artist have started to react on streaming their products without getting royalties
ZachariasX Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, 307_Tomcat said: https://www.article13.org/no-silly-questions What a pile of crap. Fist sentence is already a lie: Platforms will be encouraged to get licences from the rights holders rather than block content. You really think Google will care for getting a license for whatever mix you just uploaded? Nah, you're simply not worth the bother. What do you think that means for your upload? The crap goes on, basically making assumptions on how Google (or anyone) will act upon being liable for the posted content. Sure, they would do as Axel Springer would like to. That would actually be a first time. That page is also a fraud as "creators" are basically screwed with this Article, it only represents large license conglomerates such as Axel Springer.
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 Wait for implementation , now this is just directive. BTW what you want ? large companies aggregating yours work , take money from adds etc and you small publisher left with what? 42 minutes ago, ZachariasX said: What a pile of crap. Fist sentence is already a lie: Platforms will be encouraged to get licences from the rights holders rather than block content. You really think Google will care for getting a license for whatever mix you just uploaded? Nah, you're simply not worth the bother. What do you think that means for your upload? The crap goes on, basically making assumptions on how Google (or anyone) will act upon being liable for the posted content. Sure, they would do as Axel Springer would like to. That would actually be a first time. That page is also a fraud as "creators" are basically screwed with this Article, it only represents large license conglomerates such as Axel Springer.
CanadaOne Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 In the words of Harcourt Fenton Mudd: "Knowledge, sir, should be free to all." 1
Cacodemon96 Posted April 8, 2019 Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Nothing to really worry about. 1.By the end of May there's election to European Parliament and many politicians said, that they will do anything to stop entire directive. 2. It breaks Constitiution of many European countries (e.g Article 13 alone breaks Polish Constitiution in at least 3 seperate places), so I don't think directive will ever be introduced Edited April 8, 2019 by Cacodemon96 1
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