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ACG_KaiLae

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Since the engine on the dora was also used on the Ju-88C3, that got me thinking about the Ju-88 again. Current one we have in game is a Ju-88A4, which was pretty much the standard one until late in the war. However, what isn't reflected in the plane we have is that from my understanding, there were a lot of possible modifications that could be applied to it, particularly replacing the rear top guns with a single MG131. What I'd like to know is if anyone has a list of R or U modifications that were done to the A-4? For the MG131, how often was that done, and when about was it applied? General info stuff. 

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-=PHX=-SuperEtendard

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I think the C variant still had the same Jumo as the A-4, the G would be the night fighter with the Jumo 213s. And it looks really good imho.

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Hopefully in the future, alongside one of those British bombers which didn't have more gunners than a He 111

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CUJO_1970

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Love to have some BMW powered 88s. Used as fast attack bombers with a lightened bomb load.

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ACG_KaiLae

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On 3/24/2019 at 1:13 PM, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said:

I think the C variant still had the same Jumo as the A-4, the G would be the night fighter with the Jumo 213s. And it looks really good imho.

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Hopefully in the future, alongside one of those British bombers which didn't have more gunners than a He 111

 

It did not. It either had a BMW 801 or the Jumo in the C3.

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LukeFF

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A September 1941 armament manual for the A-4 and D-1 (the long-range photo-recon variant of the A-4) shows side-mounted MG 15s on both sides of the cockpit, which were manned by the observer and the radioman:

 

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Beyond that,  the front MG 81 was typically no longer present by 1942, along with the deletion of the dive brakes. This is seen in photos of both German and Finnish Ju 88s.

 

No idea about the introduction of the MG 131s.

 

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And, of course, there is also the Stuvi dive-bombing sight.

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ShamrockOneFive

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I have hopes for the Stuvi dive-bombing sight. The person who did the K-14/Mark II GGS/EZ42 might be the person for the job there :)

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=FEW=fernando11

=FEW=fernando11

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Also. Please Let us remove the nose mounted MG as a mod!

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76IAP-Black

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It would be great, to have a proper C variant in a sim after so many years. I would even pay for it as collector plane. A C6 or so would be great!

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LLv44_Damixu

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At least I hope we could remove the forward firing MG if wanted from loadouts. It's blocking terribly bad pilot's view to critical gauges and to landscape forward right.

Another loadout could be pilot operated forward firing machine cannon below bombardier's station like many A-4's were equipped in IRL.

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JonRedcorn

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Did the ju-88 ever have forward firing armament? Meaning fired by the pilot. That's the only thing I don't like about it. It's such an agile and quick bomber some 20mms would of made it incredibly deadly.

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6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

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41 minutes ago, JonRedcorn said:

Did the ju-88 ever have forward firing armament? Meaning fired by the pilot. That's the only thing I don't like about it. It's such an agile and quick bomber some 20mms would of made it incredibly deadly.

In the A-4 the Forwards firing Gun could be locked Forward and fired by the Pilot through a Button on his Stick.

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LLv44_Damixu

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1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said:

In the A-4 the Forwards firing Gun could be locked Forward and fired by the Pilot through a Button on his Stick.


This!

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LukeFF

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3 hours ago, JonRedcorn said:

Did the ju-88 ever have forward firing armament? Meaning fired by the pilot. That's the only thing I don't like about it. It's such an agile and quick bomber some 20mms would of made it incredibly deadly.

 

Yes, the C-6. 

Juri_JS

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5 hours ago, JonRedcorn said:

Did the ju-88 ever have forward firing armament? Meaning fired by the pilot. That's the only thing I don't like about it. It's such an agile and quick bomber some 20mms would of made it incredibly deadly.

It was possible to install a fixed forward firing 20 mm MG/FF in the Ju-88A, but this required removing the bombsight.

 

 

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Retnek

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To keep the investment as low as possible the way to go would be the Ju-88 C6. A sibling of the A4 already present in IL2-GB and in service as a night-fighter until 1945. As a day-"fighter" in Russia and over the Biscay at least until 1944, too. The C-models 1 to 5 were derived from the A-1 or A-5, both early models build just until 1941. Compared to the C-6 all the other C-models were build in negligible numbers.


Add to the C-6 some A-models with Jumo-211 J (A-17 torpedo most important), the recon-model D-1 and voila - the operational options for the German side are enhanced largely. I'd gladly pay 20 € for a collectors plane offering so much benefit.

Btw: With the Ju-88 A-4/D-1/C-6 the IL2-GB-series would offer a platform for nearly any airborne radar, passive detector and electronical navigation aid the Luftwaffe used in WW2. There is no need to research and re-build the stuff like instruments, radar displays. To present a proper simulation an AI-crew-member calling out the results will do the job perfectly. In real the pilots were advised that way by a radar operator or navigator, too.

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Hirachi

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I wouldn't mind getting that cannon on the Ju-88

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ACG_KaiLae

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I'm looking for modifications that were done to the A4, thanks. As well as their official designations. 

Godspeed

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Why they did not put the option to use forward mg by pilot?

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9 minutes ago, Godspeed said:

Why they did not put the option to use forward mg by pilot?

 

19 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said:

In the A-4 the Forwards firing Gun could be locked Forward and fired by the Pilot through a Button on his Stick.

 

356thFS_Melonfish

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Oh man, can you imagine the 5cm and 7.5cm cannon versions of the JU88 in game?

i would love to see different variants myself, different weapon configs and perhaps radar/night fighter versions, i'd happily pay for that as a collectors plane.

 

 

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Juri_JS

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According to a manual from 1942 the Ju-88A4 could also be equipped with the Zusatz-Waffenbehälter 81 carrying 3 MG 81Z. We already have it in the game for the Ju-87. They were installed on the normal bomb racks and it was possible to carry up to three on each wing. They could be installed firing forward or backward. When pointing forward they were fired by the pilot. When pointing backward they were fired by the gunner in the bola.

 

 

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6./ZG26_Gielow

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I am totally in favor of revisiting our classic planes with more mods and mission variety.

 

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Drawbar

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I think we should have the Stuvi dive sights as options for both the Ju-88 and Ju-87 as well.

 

Usta be pretty good with those back in the '46 days.

 

Not my video, but;  https://youtu.be/ZFAl3WwW7VU

 

 

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Godspeed

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On 3/29/2019 at 10:48 AM, Elem said:

 

 

 

 

They i mean developers so what key is it?

SCG_OpticFlow

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On 3/30/2019 at 5:17 AM, Drawbar said:

I think we should have the Stuvi dive sights as options for both the Ju-88 and Ju-87 as well.

 

Usta be pretty good with those back in the '46 days.

 

Not my video, but;  https://youtu.be/ZFAl3WwW7VU

 

 

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That would be the most important addition in the game for me, since I fly mostly ground attackers.

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On 3/29/2019 at 6:52 PM, 6./ZG26_Gielow said:

I am totally in favor of revisiting our classic planes with more mods and mission variety.

 

Seeing as we are getting RAF/USAF pilots soon it would be nice to get Western mods and armaments for the P-40, Spitfire, and A-20

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LukeFF

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55 minutes ago, =621=Samikatz said:

Seeing as we are getting RAF/USAF pilots soon it would be nice to get Western mods and armaments for the P-40, Spitfire, and A-20

 

RAF and American pilots have been in the game for a while now. 

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