New damage models, bombings and ground stuff

[KG_S_Kalle_Kalutz82]

Heya Pilots,

 

since we have a newer damaging model for buildings and ground stuff, my subjective feeling says it becomes not only harder to destroy wooden barracks/factory buildings/vehicles, but sometimes ridicoulus impossible?

Some of the other pilots I've spoken so far, sharing same experiences.

 

For example, yesterday we attacked the last soviet AF near Moscow, and there are those two white stone buildings, which I hit each with a 500kg bomb. No damage.

Or the tank convoy with AA-truck cover. We tried to knock out those trucks and it took several attempts, beside many many hits with MG's and cannons.

 

That was just for yesterday but it was underlining my latest impression about the new damaging models on ground things, so I started this discussion to hear you guys out about it.

 

Whats your experience?

Does it becomes unrealistic harder sometimes or is it just my feelings, what you think?

[354thFG_Leifr]

 

Reported on since April of last year, no response or effort to fix the issue. Mud moving and bombers in BoX are thoroughly neglected, it’s better now to just strap yourself in to a 109 and tumble at the deck with every other Hartmann. 

[Dutchvdm]

With buildings i agree. Tanks and trucks exactly the opposite! Since their damage model update i can actually destroy tanks with 250/500 bombs without needing a direct hit. Trucks soak up a bit more MG fire, but that seems legit. And the trucks now seem to be more vulnerable to splash damage from the smaller 50 kg bombs. 

 

Grt M 

Edited March 5, 2019 by I./ZG1_Dutchvdm

[ShamrockOneFive]

Depends on what you need to consider them destroyed. If you break an axle the game counts them as destroyed due to the more sophisticated damage model than from before. But it doesn't necessarily explode - you need repeated hits or a hit to the fuel tank to do that.

[RedKestrel]

I was hitting artillery positions on KOTA the night before last. It didn't seem unreasonably hard to kill the trucks with guns and rockets. My bombs took out some supply crates too. AAA went down to 20mm fire pretty easily, I was able to clear an AA position of five guns with ammo left over, and I wasn't saving ammo.

Tanks have always been hard for me to kill, but I've managed to do it with cannons, rockets and bombs post-patch in the QMB (haven't attacked tanks online or in career mode since then). My difficulty is mostly my accuracy problems though.

I sank a ship in harbour and damaged another with a drop of 2x250 kg bombs, that seems reasonable.

I really haven't attacked buildings all that much though, mostly arty and truck positions. Only dropped one FAB100 on a factory and didnt notice anything, though I was low enough to dodge chimneys so maybe the fuse didnt work.

 

[CountZero]

1 hour ago, Leifr said:

 

Reported on since April of last year, no response or effort to fix the issue. Mud moving and bombers in BoX are thoroughly neglected, it’s better now to just strap yourself in to a 109 and tumble at the deck with every other Hartmann. 

Yes , since then its normal to see players destroy more stuff with guns then bombs, its more effectivce to "shoot down" hangar or factory then to bomb it

[56RAF_Roblex]

Last week I attacked 13 vehicles, a mix of tanks and AAA vehicles, using an A20 with small bombs.  I destroyed five tanks & five vehicles and de-tracked another tank.   I don't think a single one of my bombs hit a target directly so they all died from near misses.   When I say 'destroyed' I mean counted by the game as destroyed due to damage.  Most of the tanks were just disabled and I think it was only the five AA vehicles that were burning.

 

Pictures and description here

 

https://roblex56raf.livejournal.com/31023.html

Edited March 5, 2019 by 56RAF_Roblex

[sniperton]

I have no recent experience with hangars, and very little with ships. Factory buildings can be decently destroyed with a single 100kg bomb hit, and I find that anything softer than medium tanks and train engines can be wrecked by near hits with light bombs or with cannon/HMG fire.