Huns surrendering battleplanes - British airman takes a trip in a Fokker [D7]

[SeaW0lf]

I came across this the other day. Worth sharing. From the Imperial War Museum (GB).

 

Huns surrendering battleplanes - British airman takes a trip in a Fokker (could not embed).

[JGr2/J5_Hotlead]

Awesome footage! Thanks for sharing! ?

[Voidhunger]

Awesome! Thanks for the link!

 

Is it Roland at 1:45?

[SP1969]

 

44 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

44 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

Awesome! Thanks for the link!

 

Is it Roland at 1:45?

 

Fascinating.

 

I realise these aircraft were perhaps not in the best of condition when this film was shot, but it certainly lends credence to the 'dirtier is better' approach to aircraft skins argument over on the other thread.

 

Look at the state of the airfield! 

 

I'm inclined to think it is a pile of bits from at least three aircraft at 1:45, but I'd ( very ) tentatively identify the forward fuselage and wing assembly in the foreground as being an Albatros CX. Possibly. Maybe. Perhaps.

 

Actually, I've looked again and I'm going to plump for it being an Albatros CX.

 

The second large piece of wing wreckage might be a DVa, but that would be complete guesswork.

 

Again, I think we are looking at three aeroplanes here, but the resolution, angle and exposure make it hellishly difficult to see.

Edited February 27, 2019 by SP1969

[Darkowl]

I think the one at 1:34 and 4:38 is a Junkers J.1 the il2 of WW1

Thanks for sharing.

 

Cheers Stephan

[SP1969]

Dead on, Stephan, that's exactly what it is.

 

[SeaW0lf]

21 minutes ago, SP1969 said:

but it certainly lends credence to the 'dirtier is better' approach to aircraft skins argument over on the other thread.

 

That's what I thought, although I really think they were in a state of abandon, with the liveries over-pained, etc. I can't believe they were taking off in some of those airfield conditions as well.

[SP1969]

The site is now an IKEA store. Progress.

 

Lots more photos of the same aerodrome on the Australian War Memorial site, search 'Bickendorf' on the page.

 

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by SP1969

[SeaW0lf]

58 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

Awesome! Thanks for the link!

 

Is it Roland at 1:45?

 

It is hart to identify the rubble. But it seems to have a machine gun that was supposed to be front mounted.

[Voidhunger]

Junkers j1 is not biplane right?

 

2 minutes ago, SeaW0lf said:

 

It is hart to identify the rubble. But it seems to have a machine gun that was supposed to be front mounted.

 

For me it seems that its a Roland DVI, but probably not?

[SP1969]

15 minutes ago, Voidhunger said:

For me it seems that its a Roland DVI, but probably not?

 

 

You might well be right.

 

Slightly greater angle on the forward strut, and the angle of the under carriage legs looks right for your identification, too.

[Cynic_Al]

2 hours ago, SeaW0lf said:

I came across this the other day. Worth sharing. From the Imperial War Museum (GB).

 

Huns surrendering battleplanes - British airman takes a trip in a Fokker (could not embed).

 

The irony being that the British learned nothing from evaluating these planes. For almost two decades thereafter, they continued to regard wire-braced biplanes as front line fighters. Fokker could have sent their blueprints to England during the war and it would have had no effect.

[SP1969]

Ten year rule, Cynic Al. 

 

Kept the F2b in service until 1932.......

 

 

 

Edit due to being a numpty 

 

I'm just using this thread as an excuse to watch this marvellous footage over and over again. An excellent find, SeaWolf!

 

 

Edited February 27, 2019 by SP1969

[Voidhunger]

6 minutes ago, SP1969 said:

 an excellent find, Voidhunger!

it was SeaWolf?

[SP1969]

So it was. Sorry. I'm still in 1919...