FABR_Pollako Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Hello Developers I have been a pilot of simulators since the time of the Warbirds III of the IEN and IL-2 1946 , like many who fly today, I know the history of World War II, as well as, all the aircraft involved in the unfolding of the conflict, your work is great, but like me, other enthusiasts miss the unheralded historical aircrafts so far: *Avro Lancaster *De Havilland Mosquito *North American B-25 Mitchel *Consolidated B-24 Liberator *Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress *Boeing B-29 Superfortress *Bristol Beaufighter *Vought F4U Corsair *Grumman F4F wildcat *Hawker Hurricane *Douglas C-47 *Grumman TBF Avenger *Focke Wullf FW-200 *Bristol Blenheim *Vickers Wellington *Mitsubeish a6m zero *Kawasaki KI-61 *Nakagima Ki-43 of these listed airlines, will not any of them be produced? I created the topic, because I did not find in the ads anything related to these aircraft, thank you very much!
BOO Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 top right hand corner - Search function - type in ANY of those aircraft and youll get dozens if not hundreds of references. 1
[PFR]Sarpalaxan Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 1. The Game Engine can't handle 4 Engine'd planes. 2. There have been 3 Eastern Europe Themed Games in the BOX Series and one Western Europe is in Early Access. Where should all these British and American planes fit in? 3. A PTO Game was pushed back to a later date because of a lack of Recourses from the Japanese Planes. Instead we got Bodenplatte. 4. I Don't think the listed aircraft are so obscure that nobody knew they were missing. (Not like the K+W C-36)
6FG_Big_Al Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) If I understand correctly, it takes a long time to make bombers. Also now for Bodenplatte the B-25 will come as Ai because they don't have time for the Intereur (But good news! That will be done later and it will be playable ❤️ ). I guess the 4 Engine bombers are extremely difficult because of that. Even if we had a B-17, for example, it wouldn't make much sense alone or in very small groups. And big bomber formations will stay out until the engine can handle it (hopefully in the future). Apart from that, Bodenplatte is the first western front scenario in the GB Series. So it remains to be seen what comes next. I'd love to see the Pacific, but it's difficult to get data, as has been written before, and there hasn't been any new information about the state of this location yet. For now we can only hope that these, or at least a part of them, planes will find their way into the series. best wishes Rico PS: You should read this Interview from Shamrockfive with Jason Willioams and Daniel Tuseev, there is information about the B-25 and the Li-2(russian version of the C-47) https://stormbirds.blog/2019/02/12/part-2-an-interview-with-jason-williams-and-daniel-tuseev/ Edited February 25, 2019 by Big_Al_the_Allo 2
Nil Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 the C47 will be most likely produced along with the li2, but not before 2 years at best 1
Poochnboo Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 The list of airplanes not in the sim are about twenty times that much. The devs hav no intention of doing every airplane of WW2. They are as aware of the existance of those machines as you are. Giving them a list of airplanes that they haven't built is rather silly. Just my opinion, of course. 1 6
1CGS LukeFF Posted February 26, 2019 1CGS Posted February 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Poochnboo said: Just my opinion, of course. It's an opinion shared by many, including myself.
BraveSirRobin Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Don't listen to them. Another partial list of WW2 aircraft not currently in the game is just what this forum needed. I'm sure that somewhere in Moscow someone is saying "How could we have forgotten to add a Corsair to Battle of Stalingrad?!?" 4
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Are you b@stards seriously telling me you would deny me my Seamew?
AndyJWest Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 While I can sympathise with a request for the Seamew, no WW2 aircraft simulation would be truly complete without that marvel of British engineering the Blackburn Roc. I'm fairly certain this wasn't actually designed. Just cobbled together out of left-over bits. There is obviously some Defiant in there, and the fin seems to be a Spitfire tailplane mounted sideways. The engine is clearly from a Gloster Gladiator. No idea what the wings were from. Possibly salvaged from some Yank trainer or something. The tailplane was whittled from an old church pew by the West Norwood Boy Scouts Troop. The front half of the fuselage was obviously assembled from various bits of scrap metal found in a railway siding in Didcot, while the rear is an abstract piece of modern art by sculptor Henry Moore. We'll never see its like again... 6 1 1
Hoots Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, AndyJWest said: While I can sympathise with a request for the Seamew, no WW2 aircraft simulation would be truly complete without that marvel of British engineering the Blackburn Roc. I'm fairly certain this wasn't actually designed. Just cobbled together out of left-over bits. There is obviously some Defiant in there, and the fin seems to be a Spitfire tailplane mounted sideways. The engine is clearly from a Gloster Gladiator. No idea what the wings were from. Possibly salvaged from some Yank trainer or something. The tailplane was whittled from an old church pew by the West Norwood Boy Scouts Troop. The front half of the fuselage was obviously assembled from various bits of scrap metal found in a railway siding in Didcot, while the rear is an abstract piece of modern art by sculptor Henry Moore. We'll never see its like again... Probably the best description of a Roc ever.
MistyDustsBartordermen Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Any type of alien technology... *Tin-foil hat on*
Rjel Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 On 2/26/2019 at 1:44 AM, AndyJWest said: While I can sympathise with a request for the Seamew, no WW2 aircraft simulation would be truly complete without that marvel of British engineering the Blackburn Roc. I'm fairly certain this wasn't actually designed. Just cobbled together out of left-over bits. There is obviously some Defiant in there, and the fin seems to be a Spitfire tailplane mounted sideways. The engine is clearly from a Gloster Gladiator. No idea what the wings were from. Possibly salvaged from some Yank trainer or something. The tailplane was whittled from an old church pew by the West Norwood Boy Scouts Troop. The front half of the fuselage was obviously assembled from various bits of scrap metal found in a railway siding in Didcot, while the rear is an abstract piece of modern art by sculptor Henry Moore. We'll never see its like again... No more cobbled together than this monstrosity. I will say the final version of the XP-75 had a certain coolness to it. Seeing it up close at the Air Force Museum was pretty sweet.
Jaegermeister Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 I don’t think we are suppos d to even type the name of some of those planes listed, but I do believe there are copyrights that prevent quite a few of those American fighters listed from ever being represented here. 1
Gambit21 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said: I don’t think we are suppos d to even type the name of some of those planes listed, but I do believe there are copyrights that prevent quite a few of those American fighters listed from ever being represented here. No worries on the copyright thing. That's sort of an old tale from Oleg's mishandling of things, but not related to this or other products. I'm not sure what they have to pay, but I don't think it's prohibitive.
CanadaOne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Gambit21 said: No worries on the copyright thing. That's sort of an old tale from Oleg's mishandling of things, but not related to this or other products. I'm not sure what they have to pay, but I don't think it's prohibitive. Wasn't there something going on with the Hellcat, where Grumman or someone didn't want it used?
Gambit21 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: Wasn't there something going on with the Hellcat, where Grumman or someone didn't want it used? No, it was just mishandled by Oleg is all.
CanadaOne Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Do we not speak Oleg's name with reverence anymore? 1
Gambit21 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, CanadaOne said: Do we not speak Oleg's name with reverence anymore? Not since CloD It's a "what have you done for me lately" thing. 1
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Jason addressed the copyright thing a little over a year ago. It’s not going to be a problem but he asked for no more threads on the issue for the time being.
Garven Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Rjel said: Looks like a Pe-2 and P-39 had a child. 2
Vig Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Just like the Roc is the love child of the Blackburn Skua and the Boulton Paul Defiant. The Skua, I think, was actually a better weapon than is generally thought, and better use could have been made of it.
MasserME262 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Garven said: Looks like a Pe-2 and P-39 had a child. I would say is a child between the child between a P-39 and a mustag and a Pe-2.
Poochnboo Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Well....I'm not necessarily pro-abortion, but in this case..................
Trooper117 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 11 hours ago, CanadaOne said: Do we not speak Oleg's name with reverence anymore? Yes we should do... despite his often misleading comments and the CloD drama, that man gave me some of the most enjoyable moments I've ever had in combat flight sims... People may scoff now, but he raised the bar, (just look at the Fw 190 pun...) plus it was a time when I was consistently online every week. They were great days! 4
Rjel Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Garven said: Looks like a Pe-2 and P-39 had a child. As I recall, it had the wing and landing gear from the P-40 and the tail of the SBD. The rest I'm not sure of other than it was a GM product with a V-24 Twin Allison engine.
Gambit21 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Trooper117 said: Yes we should do... despite his often misleading comments and the CloD drama, that man gave me some of the most enjoyable moments I've ever had in combat flight sims... People may scoff now, but he raised the bar, (just look at the Fw 190 pun...) plus it was a time when I was consistently online every week. They were great days! All true.
FABR_Pollako Posted January 18, 2020 Author Posted January 18, 2020 On 2/25/2019 at 8:05 PM, Poochnboo said: The list of airplanes not in the sim are about twenty times that much. The devs hav no intention of doing every airplane of WW2. They are as aware of the existance of those machines as you are. Giving them a list of airplanes that they haven't built is rather silly. Just my opinion, of course. I agree that the devs must know all the aircraft of the conflict, I cannot follow all the forum topics due to the work, I just exercised my right to ask about the aircraft that I have already flown, thank you! I am aware that it is not feasible to build all the aircraft of the second world war, but everyone here is hoping to see historic aircraft from all nations well represented and preserved in the IL-2 GB, thanks to everyone for their friendly responses and also for the few friendly matches there were! 1
Tyberan Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 Lol to Blackburn. I love their design aesthetic, needs to look like it can't fly but can and a dash of fugliness. Case in point the Blackburn Blackburn
AndyJWest Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 Ah yes, the Blackburn Blackburn. So ugly they named it twice. ? Note the portholes in the fuselage. Probably put there to appeal to the admiralty, who didn't know much about aircraft, but expected any means of transport they purchased to have some means to dispose of potato peelings and similar galley waste. I expect it has a bilge pump too. 1
ZachariasX Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 We definitely need an aircraft that a porked FM: When ever someone complains in the forum about it's porked FM, then it's one for realism.
Lusekofte Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 On 2/26/2019 at 7:44 AM, AndyJWest said: While I can sympathise with a request for the Seamew, no WW2 aircraft simulation would be truly complete without that marvel of British engineering the Blackburn Roc. I'm fairly certain this wasn't actually designed. Just cobbled together out of left-over bits. There is obviously some Defiant in there, and the fin seems to be a Spitfire tailplane mounted sideways. The engine is clearly from a Gloster Gladiator. No idea what the wings were from. Possibly salvaged from some Yank trainer or something. The tailplane was whittled from an old church pew by the West Norwood Boy Scouts Troop. The front half of the fuselage was obviously assembled from various bits of scrap metal found in a railway siding in Didcot, while the rear is an abstract piece of modern art by sculptor Henry Moore. We'll never see its like again... Blackburn Skua was one of the first from UK to shoot down German plane a HE 111 I guess adding a turret and testfly it gave it the name Roc(k) Skua is one of many planes only a mother can love, but I really like to have one in a sim. Blackburn factory made a lot of planes. They always had a “charming” approach when it came to beauty
BornToBattle Posted February 3, 2020 Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Sorry, yet another one I had to find and dust off that they have yet to cover alas though it’s in the FC realm...but what the hell... On 1/19/2020 at 3:11 AM, ZachariasX said: We definitely need an aircraft that a porked FM: When ever someone complains in the forum about it's porked FM, then it's one for realism. Speaking of porking, looks like a Shinden had a little action with this offspring as well as God only knows what else. Edited February 3, 2020 by BornToBattle 1
BornToBattle Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) On 1/19/2020 at 3:11 AM, ZachariasX said: We definitely need an aircraft that a porked FM: When ever someone complains in the forum about it's porked FM, then it's one for realism. Not to sidetrack the OP but the above looks a little similar to the below particularly with the swept back wing design and forward canards...or vice versa...the XP-55 Ascender built in 1943 with a whopping production number of 3... Edited February 6, 2020 by BornToBattle
ZachariasX Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 The good thing about it is undoubtably that it never existed. 1
=621=Samikatz Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 6 hours ago, ZachariasX said: The good thing about it is undoubtably that it never existed. Absolutely convinced that designs like this existed so that designers could say "Ok you won't fund that but how about this much cheaper [thing we actually want to build]"
Charon Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 20 hours ago, ZachariasX said: The good thing about it is undoubtably that it never existed. That looks just like something I would build in Kerbal Space Program.
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