Voyager Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 Thinking about if there is a good version of the P-47 that would make a good collectors plane. I do not believe the M on N versions would be good, as that would be equivalent to making the 109K-4 a collectors plane, and those should probably be main line planes in late war battles. So I'm thinking an early version would be best, but wouldn't want to lock down one that was key in the early period, like the C's or the D-5. As such, I'm thinking a D-22 could make a good collectors version of the P-47. It's a razorback, and it looks like the D-22 were the ones that got provided as Lend-lease. Adding it as a collector's plane would open up a representative type that could be used in both Eastern and Western fronts, can slot in next to the D-28 for most roles, and would not step on any versions that would need to be in other battles. The question then would be the likelyhood an older Thunderbolt, with different running systems, would sell with the D-28 coming out right now, vs the resources to generate it. I mean, I'd buy it, but I'm a jughead, so I'm weird, and not necessarily representative of the general buying audience. 1
RedKestrel Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 I would buy a razorback version of the P-47 I think, as long as it was usable in the career mode. I know some people buy the plane just to fly it, but I find I need an associated campaign to make it work.
40plus Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 Would be cool and any new collector planes would be welcome but there are hundreds of other planes I would prefer over the P-47.
KatieLuna Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: Hundreds? Yeah, 100 P47s!
Rjel Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: Hundreds? Damn! Beat me to it.
40plus Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 Meh, I'm not immune to the use of hyperbole. 1
Voyager Posted February 20, 2019 Author Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheTacticalCat said: Yeah, 100 P47s! Well, there were 15,000 built, so following the 109 pattern, we do ultimately need about six to eight or so versions to cover everything: C-2 D-5 D-15 D-22 D-28 D-30 M-1 N-5 Note: I really don't think the P-47B would be worth it. As I said, I'd want to buy it because I'm a jughead, but it would only be appropriate for a training campaign with lots of failure modes. Addendum: a side thought on this is a collector Jug could also support building their database for the R-2800. That engine powered a significant number of the US aircraft during the war, so work on P-47s could be leveraged to support aircraft like the Hellcat, Corsair, Marauder or Invader, akin to the way the DB605 supports easier 109 builds. Edited February 20, 2019 by Voyager
Rei-sen Posted February 20, 2019 Posted February 20, 2019 Yeah, razorback would be nice. Same with the P-51.
Voyager Posted February 21, 2019 Author Posted February 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Arthur-A said: Yeah, razorback would be nice. Same with the P-51. Mustang Mk Ia?
Rei-sen Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, Voyager said: Mustang Mk Ia? That too, why not? ?
1CGS LukeFF Posted February 21, 2019 1CGS Posted February 21, 2019 7 hours ago, RedKestrel said: I would buy a razorback version of the P-47 I think, as long as it was usable in the career mode. I know some people buy the plane just to fly it, but I find I need an associated campaign to make it work. Razorbacks were still around in the ETO all the way up to V-E Day. 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) D-22 Razorback! Edited February 21, 2019 by 325TH_SPEKTRE76 1
Voyager Posted February 21, 2019 Author Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, LukeFF said: Razorbacks were still around in the ETO all the way up to V-E Day. Honestly, I think the penultimate P-47 would be the P-47D-5 with mod options for 91, 100, 130, 145 octane fuel, with/without water injection, and an optional Hamilton Standard/Curtiss Electric paddle prop. With all of the engine and prop mods, it would be suitable for all the way from early 1943 to late war, really only needing to be replaced because it lacks the range and hardpoints of the later versions. But, that one should be held for an early/mid 1943 European battle, and would really need all of the major analysis of the R-2800 high power behaviour sorted out first. A D-22 with the 54" and 64" as a mod would cover most of that, and, if restricted to the 54" mod, be mostly compairable to the late 1943 versions, while still being suitable for late war operations with the 64" mode.
Legioneod Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) For Bodenplatte P-47 D-22 Razorback would be the best option for a collector imo, it would be good for all of 1944-1945 and some of 43 iirc. It has multiple power settings to accommodate 43-45 scenarios. Potential Engine Mods: - 52" - 56" MAP. 1943-Early 1944 settings. - 52" - 64" MAP 1944 - 1945 setting. - 150 Fuel with 52" - 70" MAP 8th AF setting from mid/late 1944 onwards. MODS Same bombload as D-28 plus some additional bomb types, etc. Mirror Gun Ammo/Selection Another consideration is that it served in the Pacific so it would be good for Pacific scenarios as well. Earlier P-47s (D-5, D-15, etc) would be better suited for a Normandy/Italy scenario. Edited February 21, 2019 by Legioneod
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