Brake lever on the Pe2Ser87 query.

[356thFS_Melonfish]

Bit of an odd one chaps, i've noticed this on the Pe2 but i've also seen it on the YAK1b, the central brake lever i've mapped the to flappy padle on my Thrustmaster throttle set.

now I hit one side and the brake lever is pulled in, simple enough

i hit the other side it pushes it away...

is that normal?

what does that do exactly?

can someone help an old clueless fool?

 

 

I miss german planes and their lovely toe brakes.

Melonfish

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I think if you map it to those paddles it treats it as an axis so when you are not hitting the paddles it is pressing the brakes halfway in. So when you hit it one way it presses the brakes fully and when  you hit the other paddle it is releasing the brakes from halfway pressed.

[THERION]

6 minutes ago, Melonfish said:

Bit of an odd one chaps, i've noticed this on the Pe2 but i've also seen it on the YAK1b, the central brake lever i've mapped the to flappy padle on my Thrustmaster throttle set.

now I hit one side and the brake lever is pulled in, simple enough

i hit the other side it pushes it away...

is that normal?

what does that do exactly?

can someone help an old clueless fool?

 

 

I miss german planes and their lovely toe brakes.

Melonfish

 

Russian planes have differential brake system - so when you want to brake left, then pull the brake lever (flappy paddle) and move your rudder pedal to the left too.

And vice-versa. For a full brake you only need to pull the brake lever.

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4 hours ago, -IRRE-Therion said:

 

Russian planes have differential brake system - so when you want to brake left, then pull the brake lever (flappy paddle) and move your rudder pedal to the left too.

And vice-versa. For a full brake you only need to pull the brake lever.

Did you even read his question?

[THERION]

22 minutes ago, Muad_dib said:

 

Did you even read his question?

 

Yes I did, Mr. Honk! I simply explained how the brake works on Russian planes, OK? And therefore he can not use his buttons like he wants.

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1 hour ago, -IRRE-Therion said:

 

Yes I did, Mr. Honk! I simply explained how the brake works on Russian planes, OK? And therefore he can not use his buttons like he wants.

He has set his brakes to the thrustmaster paddles on the throttle, which acts as one axis and not two. So when he is not hitting them at all it is depressing the in game brake lever part way. And when he hits presses them one way it presses the brakes more and when he hits the other side of the paddle it releases the brakes. If he were to leave the brake lever on that axis as you stated he will continue to have problems as he will always have some brake in when not touching it.

 

You just spewed out how the Russian brakes work on most Russian planes, because you saw Pe-2 and brake in the subject and didn't even give him any thought. Also the I-16 uses toe brakes so saying that is how the brakes work on Russian brakes shows even more misinformation on your part. Low effort replies like yours confuse new players.

 

 

6 hours ago, Melonfish said:

Bit of an odd one chaps, i've noticed this on the Pe2 but i've also seen it on the YAK1b, the central brake lever i've mapped the to flappy padle on my Thrustmaster throttle set.

now I hit one side and the brake lever is pulled in, simple enough

i hit the other side it pushes it away...

is that normal?

what does that do exactly?

can someone help an old clueless fool?

 

 

I miss german planes and their lovely toe brakes.

Melonfish

Any ways Melonfish. I have the same throttle has you and i just set the brakes to a button. When you press the button with no rudder input both wheels will brake. And when you press some rudder in either direction it starts to release the brakes slightly on the opposite side to help you with the turn. You don't really need the fine braking inputs that an axis like the paddles would give you. You should be able to taxi just fine and brake as you like by pulsing the button if you need to.

 

 

Edited February 18, 2019 by Muad_dib

[356thFS_Melonfish]

Hi guys,

the paddle at present is the only free button/axis I have, i guess i'll have to re-map then, no idea what i'm going to use, i feel like the thrustmaster setup needs about a thousand more buttons.

thank you everyone who responded.

Pete

 

[IckyATLAS]

Which Thrustmaster Hotas model do you have?

[356thFS_Melonfish]

2 hours ago, IckyATLAS said:

Which Thrustmaster Hotas model do you have?

T.16000m FCS Hotas with rudder pedals.

overall I really like it, I do wish I had more hat switches though.

 

[IckyATLAS]

5 hours ago, Melonfish said:

T.16000m FCS Hotas with rudder pedals.

overall I really like it, I do wish I had more hat switches though.

 

I did not know that model but after checking, indeed you could have more, but this needs to go up in the TM range, which means unfortunately to spend more ?

[JimTM]

Is the paddle spring loaded (i.e., if you let go, it returns to center)? If so, try this:

 

1. Open the Controls screen, click on Plane Controls, and scroll down to Wheel Brakes (do not click on it yet).

2. Move the brake controller to the center (brakes fully OFF position).

3. Click on the Wheel Brakes control bind.

4. Move the controller HALFWAY to the brakes fully ON position.

5. Move the controller to the brakes fully ON position.

6. Move the controller back to the center (brakes fully OFF position).

7. Click Accept to close the control bind dialog and Accept again to close the Settings screen.

 

[356thFS_Melonfish]

13 hours ago, JimTM said:

Is the paddle spring loaded (i.e., if you let go, it returns to center)? If so, try this:

 

1. Open the Controls screen, click on Plane Controls, and scroll down to Wheel Brakes (do not click on it yet).

2. Move the brake controller to the center (brakes fully OFF position).

3. Click on the Wheel Brakes control bind.

4. Move the controller HALFWAY to the brakes fully ON position.

5. Move the controller to the brakes fully ON position.

6. Move the controller back to the center (brakes fully OFF position).

7. Click Accept to close the control bind dialog and Accept again to close the Settings screen.

 

I did try this but the way IL2 maps the controls is funny so i've left it be, instead i've set one of my hat switches i had for another task to brakes, it's made life a fair bit easier.

thanks to all who responded i'm now sorted!

Pete