Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) ...turns she can juggle balls too! Hats off to you girl, what you did a few days ago is truly brave, it's a shame people didn't listen to your whole wonderful speech though, but only focussed on your outing.. Edited February 18, 2014 by Sternjaeger
Finkeren Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Good for her. Fortunately coming out as gay requires less and less bravery these years. It should require none, because it really shouldn't be an issue, but we're getting there.
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 that's true just for some countries unfortunately. Regardless of her coming out, the whole speech she delivered was very very touching. 1
Finkeren Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Haven't seen it. Only read some headlines about it, but I will now.
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWIaYZEHOIg
SYN_Mike77 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 She is a very talented young actor. Best known for her role in the film "Juno".
Finkeren Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 The speech was well written, but honestly also kinda sanitized. There was very little that any normal person could disagree with.
SYN_Mike77 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Finkeren, you obviously, don't live in rural Kentucky!
LLv44_Mprhead Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) The speech was well written, but honestly also kinda sanitized. There was very little that any normal person could disagree with. Sadly this is true only in Western world. Other places it's a different story http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/world/africa/after-review-ugandan-president-will-sign-antigay-legislation.html?_r=0 and you don't have to go to Africa to find things like this. Just look at gay rights and laws in Russia. Edited February 18, 2014 by 13./JG51mprhead
FuriousMeow Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 No. Not at all. Nothing like that at all.
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 raaaid, mental disease is considered an impairment, sexual orientation isn't. The two are incomparable, both under a scientific and moral point of view, but whilst mental disease is normally acknowledged and respected, sexual orientation is often a reason of discrimination and persecution. 2
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 both have a genetic component that determines behaviour that's a coarse and wrong assumption of yours.
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 it doesnt even matter in the end insanity is an INTERPRETATION of the world that goes against the norm we are the ones who refuse to keep the step as all march theres no so much difference 50 years ago we jailed gays now we jail or chemically lobotomize wackos you are completely missing the point. A mentally ill person is a dysfunctional individual that can harm himself or others. A gay person won't.
II./JG27_Rich Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) that's true just for some countries unfortunately. Regardless of her coming out, the whole speech she delivered was very very touching. She's one of my favorites "Juno" She was in my friend's restaurant in Nova Scocia once where she's actually from. Edited February 18, 2014 by II./JG27_Rich
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 your applying a logical approach but the real world is not like that if i decided to trust the system i would go to a hospital right now and tell them my things do you think im dangeorus? do you think theyd lock me up? madness is as gayness its all right as long as you dont show off seriously i know do you drive Raaaid?
Cybermat47 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Wait, is she a Lesbian? No wonder I didn't hear, I was to busy being proud of a friend of mine coming out of the closet recently!
Sternjaeger Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) nope but i could legally if i wanted then you're not as crazy as you want to let us believe. You're just an attention seeking person, manipulating things to draw the spotlight on yourself. This thread is about a young woman coming out in a judgemental society, so unless you're a lesbian yourself, you're off topic. Edited February 18, 2014 by Sternjaeger
FuriousMeow Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 This thread wasn't about you raaaid, and yet you managed to turn it into that. You are an attention seeking malcontent, and insufferably annoying. You use your crazyness as a reason anyone should accept you or care about you, but you are just as insignificant as the rest of us except your brain is broken. I'm not going to go soft on you here, you brought it on yourself to make it seem like you were important and were somehow comparable to individuals that have a different sexual preference rather than a most certainly miswired brain that needs treatment and quite clearly supervision. I'm actually amazed everyday you post here and you aren't chaperoned to ensure that not only you don't hurt yourself but most importantly you don't harm someone that is younger than yourself and highly impressionable.
76SQN-FatherTed Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I actually think Raaaaid has a point here. Society at large stigmatizes deviations from the norm, whatever form they take. You just have to pause for a minute and think of the casual insults that fly around a school playground (or indeed an internet forum) to realise this. If you're In game-chat with more grown-up communities like ours, the other players are more likely to have a go at you if you use "gay" as an insult, than if you say someone is "schizo" or "mental". I've not seen "gay" bandied about as an insult in these parts, but I have seen people being accused of not taking their meds over on the RoF forums. Sternjaeger, I appreciate what you're trying to say here, but you can't criticize Raaaid for making "coarse and wrong assumptions" and then say: "A mentally ill person is a dysfunctional individual that can harm himself or others. A gay person won't." Mentally ill people do not necessarily pose a threat to anybody, and gay people can harm people just as well (badly) as anybody else. As a final comment (3 more posts were added as I wrote this gibberish) - let's give everyone the benefit of the doubt when we're having a nuanced discussion in English and it's not everyone's first language 1
FuriousMeow Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 No, you didn't. That's not an opinion, that's directing everything towards you. Making sure the topic is about you. You think your broken brain is comparable to someone saying they prefer a partner of the same sex. You brought yourself into this, notice how no one else said anything about themselves or compared themselves to what happened? Just you. It has to be about you. It wasn't an opinion, it wasn't on topic, it wasn't a point, it was about making this topic about you. I'm sorry you think everything has to be about you, this isn't about you. It was about someone else, but you made it about you because of course you had to. 1
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