Hoots Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 Guys, I’m after some advice, It’s time for a new PC which obvs I’m pant wettingly excited about. I don’t have the inclination to build one myself so what sites would be good to look at for ready to go options? I’d rather not choose my own components as, again, I don’t have the inclination or knowledge to research them all and am happy to buy a tower that’s ready to go. This is for shipping in the UK and I’m hoping to use VR with no problems, price up to maybe £1700 if that’s doable? Cheers in advance. Hoots
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 12, 2019 Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hoots said: This is for shipping in the UK and I’m hoping to use VR with no problems, price up to maybe £1700 if that’s doable? Although I'm unable to comment on the situation in the UK, I can offer some general advice for choosing a great VR PC. CPU High single-thread performance is essential for VR; this benchmark correlates really well with in-game results. i5-8600K, i7-8700K, i5-9600K, and i7-9700K all deliver excellent performance, especially when overclocked with a Z370/90 chipset motherboard. Graphics card Requirements really depend on the resolution of the desired VR headset. Consider a GTX 1070 as the minimum. RAM 16 GB is easily sufficient. The best approach would probably be to show us some examples of systems that you'd be comfortable purchasing. Then, we could compare them and make recommendations. Edited January 13, 2019 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1
Alonzo Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Yeah personally I would go with 9600K, 16gb of 3200Mhz CAS-16 or better RAM, and a GTX 1080 or RTX 2070 (or better) GPU. For the CPU you need to overclock, so get a 240mm liquid cooler (or better). 1
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 52 minutes ago, Alonzo said: For the CPU you need to overclock, so get a 240mm liquid cooler (or better). Air coolers can work just as well as water coolers. Water coolers just take longer to reach a steady state. 1
Hoots Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 Is over clocking essential? It’s not something I’ve ever contemplated before, largely due to the fear of killing components.
[DBS]MDS1 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) If you are in the UK, and wish to "customise" your new Gaming PC - this company have a good reputation, I purchased my first Gaming PC from them, they built and delivered my New PC within a week, and their after sales and guarantee was faultless. It may be worth a look. https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/ Kind Regards, MDS1 Edited January 14, 2019 by MDS1 Hyperlink error 1
Hoots Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 4 hours ago, MDS1 said: If you are in the UK, and wish to "customise" your new Gaming PC - this company have a good reputation, I purchased my first Gaming PC from them, they built and delivered my New PC within a week, and their after sales and guarantee was faultless. It may be worth a look. https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/ Kind Regards, MDS1 Cheers mds.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hoots said: Is over clocking essential? It’s not something I’ve ever contemplated before, largely due to the fear of killing components. It's only necessary if you're looking for the absolute best performance or if you want to decrease costs. For example, an i5-8600K overclocked to i7-8700K speeds will deliver the same performance in Il-2 (roughly 10% more performance or a saving of $100 US). It is very hard to accidentally kill components as there are protection mechanisms that will stop everything before you get to a dangerous state. Moderate overclocks can be set up in just a few clicks. They're virtually guaranteed to work. However, it's entirely understandable that some people don't feel comfortable with overclocking, as it is officially unsupported. Just keep in mind that a small percentage of the potential performance of your chip will remain unused if you choose not to overclock. That can affect frame rates in demanding scenarios, but it won't be the difference between playable and unplayable performance. Edited January 14, 2019 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1
Seb71 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 On the other hand, if you don't plan to overclock, you can get away with cheaper motherboards and cheaper coolers.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Yes, the benefits of overclocking really depend on the particular situation.
Alonzo Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Depending on what mood the game engine is in, and whether a recent patch has improved or degraded performance, you *do* need to overclock to get hit a consistent 90 FPS in VR. 5ghz is easily achievable with a 9600K or 9700K, and IL2 loves single threaded performance. Some people may or may not feel a constant 90 FPS is the baseline they need for a good experience in VR. If you turn out to be one of those people, you will appreciate the extra clock speed from overclocking with a good cooler. Air coolers can be as good as AIO liquid coolers, but the costs are very similar and with an AIO you're more likely to be giving the GPU some thermal headroom too, since you can vent CPU heat straight out of the case. I switched from liquid to a decent Noctua air cooler and I'm actually regretting it. For that UK gaming computers site, here's a configuration that would work well for VR. Basically I picked the 8700K gaming computer, asked them to overclock it for you, put in a 240mm liquid cooler, switched to faster RAM, and added a 2080 graphics card (which is slightly overkill, but the 1070ti is slightly underkill....). Price is GBP 1873 including VAT. EREBUS - I7 GAMING PC Case 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P400S White RGB Glass Power Supply 1 x Corsair CX650 650W Processor 1 x Intel Core i7 8700k 3.7Ghz Turbo 4.7Ghz Overclocking 1 x Moderate Processor Cooler 1 x Corsair Hydro H100i GTX RAM 1 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000Mhz (2 x 8GB) Motherboard 1 x Asus PRIME Z370-P II Graphics Card 1 x Nvidia GeForce® RTX 2080 8GB Hard Drive 1 x 250GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD 2nd Hard Drive 1 x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM Sound Card 1 x Motherboard Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio Network Card 1 x Integrated 10/100/1000MBPS Case Paint 1 x Standard Case finish Case Fans 1 x Standard Case Fans Cable Management 1 x UKGC Advanced System SATA Cables 1 x Standard Manufacturer SATA Cables Thermal Compound 1 x UKGC Standard System Warranty 1 x Standard 6 Year Warranty Support 1 x Lifetime Estimated Build Time 1 x Standard 5 - 10 Working Days
Hoots Posted January 14, 2019 Author Posted January 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Alonzo said: Depending on what mood the game engine is in, and whether a recent patch has improved or degraded performance, you *do* need to overclock to get hit a consistent 90 FPS in VR. 5ghz is easily achievable with a 9600K or 9700K, and IL2 loves single threaded performance. Some people may or may not feel a constant 90 FPS is the baseline they need for a good experience in VR. If you turn out to be one of those people, you will appreciate the extra clock speed from overclocking with a good cooler. Air coolers can be as good as AIO liquid coolers, but the costs are very similar and with an AIO you're more likely to be giving the GPU some thermal headroom too, since you can vent CPU heat straight out of the case. I switched from liquid to a decent Noctua air cooler and I'm actually regretting it. For that UK gaming computers site, here's a configuration that would work well for VR. Basically I picked the 8700K gaming computer, asked them to overclock it for you, put in a 240mm liquid cooler, switched to faster RAM, and added a 2080 graphics card (which is slightly overkill, but the 1070ti is slightly underkill....). Price is GBP 1873 including VAT. EREBUS - I7 GAMING PC Case 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P400S White RGB Glass Power Supply 1 x Corsair CX650 650W Processor 1 x Intel Core i7 8700k 3.7Ghz Turbo 4.7Ghz Overclocking 1 x Moderate Processor Cooler 1 x Corsair Hydro H100i GTX RAM 1 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3000Mhz (2 x 8GB) Motherboard 1 x Asus PRIME Z370-P II Graphics Card 1 x Nvidia GeForce® RTX 2080 8GB Hard Drive 1 x 250GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD 2nd Hard Drive 1 x 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM Sound Card 1 x Motherboard Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio Network Card 1 x Integrated 10/100/1000MBPS Case Paint 1 x Standard Case finish Case Fans 1 x Standard Case Fans Cable Management 1 x UKGC Advanced System SATA Cables 1 x Standard Manufacturer SATA Cables Thermal Compound 1 x UKGC Standard System Warranty 1 x Standard 6 Year Warranty Support 1 x Lifetime Estimated Build Time 1 x Standard 5 - 10 Working Days Mate, that’s awesome! Thanks. 1
Hoots Posted January 20, 2019 Author Posted January 20, 2019 Quick update. Bought it thanks all for the advice, much appreciated. Now to save up for a VR headset...
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