Tuna Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Hello every one, I run BOS on my lenovo laptop, it has a hardware of GTX1060 6G, i5-8300H and 2x8G RAM, many guys said that GTX1060 3G is enough for medium setting, but laptops always have weaker performance than desktops, so I wonder if my laptop is good enough for VR in low graphic settings. thank you for responses. Edited January 10, 2019 by Ember
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ember said: GTX1060 6G, 8th Gen i5 and 2x8G RAM Laptops are generally very ineffective for VR. The GTX 1060 is somewhat weak, but it may not be the greatest problem. In fact, it is the poor single-thread CPU performance typical of laptops that often makes VR unfeasible. I don't know the exact CPU model that your laptop has, but it probably has a max Turbo of 3.8 - 4.1 GHz. That's not bad, but with throttling it may run closer to 2.3 - 3.0 GHz. At speeds like that, VR is a no-go. Again, I can't be certain without knowing the exact laptop model and seeing its real-world performance in reviews.
Tuna Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: Laptops are generally very ineffective for VR. The GTX 1060 is somewhat weak, but it may not be the greatest problem. In fact, it is the poor single-thread CPU performance typical of laptops that often makes VR unfeasible. I don't know the exact CPU model that your laptop has, but it probably has a max Turbo of 3.8 - 4.1 GHz. That's not bad, but with it may run closer to 2.3 - 3.0 GHz. At speeds like that, VR is a no-go. Again, I can't be certain without knowing the exact laptop model and seeing its real-world performance in reviews. the exact model is i5-8300H,
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 How about the laptop model? Its thermals and throttling are just as important.
Tuna Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: How about the laptop model? Its thermals and throttling are just as important. sorry I was searching for peformance test of my laptop just now. the exact laptop model is lenovo Y7000P , at least it is so called in China, I don't know what is its name overseas.the extrem thermal test shows that GTX 1060 can run at 1468-1518.5Mhz, full loaded, and CPU steadly run at 4-cores, 3.3GHz. I am quite unfamiliar with computer terms, I hope it will not be too hard for you to understand my descriptions. Edited January 10, 2019 by Ember
chiliwili69 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 For work I have a MSI GS63VR with a 1060. It is a very thin and light 15.6" laptop (good for travel) and also use it to do some demos of VR (not IL-2 ;-)). It has a CPU i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz base, 3.5 turbo) which give a Passmark Single-thread of 1802. It work OK with the Rift in general, but never tried IL-2 with the work laptop. Many of my colleagues upgraded the laptop this year to a MSI GP63 Leopard (in our company we always go for good single thread performance, low weight, and low graphic card). This laptop has the i7-8750H (2.2GHz base, 4.1 turbo) a passmark single-thread performance of 2367. It runs very well single thread applications. (with no 3D graphics). Your CPU i5-8300H (2.3GHz base, 4.0 turbo, 4 physical cores) has a reported single-thread of 2302 (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-8300H+%40+2.30GHz&id=3254). So if you run with Low settings the CPU will not be a major bottleneck. So with that CPU (looking only to CPU) will run IL-2 like a Ryzen 2700X which has single-thread performance of 2200. This CPU (coupled with a better card) can run IL-2 VR satisfactorily for his user. What is satisfactory depends very much on the user. Some are OK at 45fps, others can not play with it. We have not data reported of 1060 with IL-2 VR in our performance tables (all PC desktops): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k I believe that a 1060 can run IL-2, but you will need to decrease SS and some graphics settings considerably to be below 100% on load. Let us know how it goes if you decide to try.
Tuna Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: For work I have a MSI GS63VR with a 1060. It is a very thin and light 15.6" laptop (good for travel) and also use it to do some demos of VR (not IL-2 ;-)). It has a CPU i7-6700HQ (2.6GHz base, 3.5 turbo) which give a Passmark Single-thread of 1802. It work OK with the Rift in general, but never tried IL-2 with the work laptop. Many of my colleagues upgraded the laptop this year to a MSI GP63 Leopard (in our company we always go for good single thread performance, low weight, and low graphic card). This laptop has the i7-8750H (2.2GHz base, 4.1 turbo) a passmark single-thread performance of 2367. It runs very well single thread applications. (with no 3D graphics). Your CPU i5-8300H (2.3GHz base, 4.0 turbo, 4 physical cores) has a reported single-thread of 2302 (https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-8300H+%40+2.30GHz&id=3254). So if you run with Low settings the CPU will not be a major bottleneck. So with that CPU (looking only to CPU) will run IL-2 like a Ryzen 2700X which has single-thread performance of 2200. This CPU (coupled with a better card) can run IL-2 VR satisfactorily for his user. What is satisfactory depends very much on the user. Some are OK at 45fps, others can not play with it. We have not data reported of 1060 with IL-2 VR in our performance tables (all PC desktops): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gJmnz_nVxI6_dG_UYNCCpZVK2-f8NBy-y1gia77Hu_k I believe that a 1060 can run IL-2, but you will need to decrease SS and some graphics settings considerably to be below 100% on load. Let us know how it goes if you decide to try. I just runned the game at 1080P, balanced setting, no shadow or mirror, and no HUD on, which is already saitsfying for me. It achieved a steady fps between 125-144, in a quick mission of 4v4 dogfight on Moscow at 500m. Is this result a bit valuable?
chiliwili69 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Ember said: Is this result a bit valuable? Yes it is. A simple rule of thumb you just halve your fps when running in VR. So you should expect 60-70 with the VR. If you use the Rift you can then use ASW, so you will be OK. If you use Windows Mixed Reality headsets you also have an equivalent (Motion reprojection). More here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220815 If you go ahead with VR let us know how well it goes.
Tuna Posted January 11, 2019 Author Posted January 11, 2019 17 hours ago, chiliwili69 said: Yes it is. A simple rule of thumb you just halve your fps when running in VR. So you should expect 60-70 with the VR. If you use the Rift you can then use ASW, so you will be OK. If you use Windows Mixed Reality headsets you also have an equivalent (Motion reprojection). More here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220815 If you go ahead with VR let us know how well it goes. thank you for response, I do appreciate Samsung MR very much. So according to the topic you posted, I should expect a native fps locked to 45 for my hardware is not capable of handling the native 90 fps of HMD, then the actual fps will be doubled to 90 by frame interpolation tech of HMD itself?
Tuna Posted January 11, 2019 Author Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said: yes, right yeah, good news
ironk79 Posted January 11, 2019 Posted January 11, 2019 i recon, after the recend updates with reasonable settings and SS even 90fps are possible, at least to enjoy QMB and Dogfights. 45fps should be easily achievable. I once managed 90fps 1vs1 Dogfights (and enjoyed it!) on balanced settings with 66%SS on a i3 3,5GHz / GTX 970.
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