Patch 3.009 MP problem

[Piciu]

Hi,

All about after patch 3.009
I was flying at TAW server and received about 99% damage in almost one shot. One bullet from Spitfire and I looked like fidget spinner:-) Totaly destroyed airplane (BF-109 F4) Thought he rammed me but none of this things. Simply one shot.
My friend received similar damage, but in one shot he got 100% damage from Yak-1 69. Can you check this, because it is looking strange and very unrealistic.
Maybe something wrong with that?
Greetings!

Edited December 20, 2018 by SYN_Haashashin

[Operatsiya_Ivy]

According to the TAW data i hit 3 yaks with 1 20mm and all of their tails fell off. Granted it was always a high deflection shot but it was pretty weird. Also the AI gunners will destroy you even more now. Honestly looks like a bug

 

[PeterZvan]

DM is very strange.

A lot of 1 shot 100% damage.

And just now 5 109s got shot down by a Pe2 flying more or less straight. The PE2 recieved at least 50 cannon shots of 20mm by all of us. Kept on flying.

And I got shot down flying past at 90 degree angle already at least 300m away from plane flying at 450kmh. One shot and I was down. 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=57427&name=PeterZvan

This is the sortie.

Not cherry picking - my first 2 La5 kills were the same - one shot into the wing from the top and they were down.

One sortie before - I needed almost complete ammo load to shoot down a La5. Sorry, but this is far from plausible.

[Operatsiya_Ivy]

 

A little case study of the magic bullet killing john f kennedy.

 

Hit through the wing, killing the pilot.

 

On a side note...how do you even reliably kill gunners? ?

View from the Bombers client side:

 

 

 

https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=57360&name=Operation_Ivy

 

Not even wounded...

Edited December 20, 2018 by Operation_Ivy

[Talon_]

TACview shows the above Fw190 going from +5 degrees of AoA to -10 degrees of AoA and then immediately back to +15 degrees of AoA.

In doing so it pulls over 330 degrees/sec rate of rotation and 120 degrees AoA during the subsequent flipping as the wings fail.

[Ehret]

Similar stuff happened before few last patches but was relatively rare - undead turrets shooting at you in spinning bomber just seconds before crash... You made a successful pass then extending looking at the shot-down target and then... boom! - no elevator anymore or your fighter got disintegrated by a mere machine-gun from a dead plane 700-1000m away.

 

Now, it seems updates made it much more prevalent and that's (imho) good! Finally it will have the attention and could change.

Edited December 20, 2018 by Ehret

[=FEW=N3cRoo]

You could also whack people on the head with HE with previous iterations of the DM

This P-39 vid is from 3.007 it was ~40% damage on the gunner but that may aswell be 0 since there is no deteriation on them from what i can tell

https://youtu.be/WFsABHynDZw

 

The following are 3.008,

The 109 i was flying a LaGG with Shvaks

110  a 23mm filled with HE belts and the 110 had the armored headrest removed. All the instances registered damage on the pilot inside the logs

 

Edited December 20, 2018 by =FEW=N3croo
corrected screenshot titling

[Aero*Bohemio]

Please fix this ASAP! Pease guys. I've uploaded a video from a kill i just got at TAW. The 109F4 just went like in those videos posted.

 

TRACK UPLOADED (1 minute video)=> http://www.mediafire.com/file/dsuc9x7tpnr14sh/v3009_DM_Bug.zip/file

 

Log=> https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=57538&name=666GIAP_Chimango

 

PS. Prior to 3.006 DM was good; afterwards it became crazy specially for weak red planes. 3.008 was not bad (better than 3.006/3.007); but now this DM makes it unplayable PvP.

 

Fix it please; and thanks for your hard work!

[Operatsiya_Ivy]

9 hours ago, =FEW=N3croo said:

You could also whack people on the head with HE with previous iterations of the DM

This P-39 vid is from 3.007 it was ~40% damage on the gunner but that may aswell be 0 since there is no deteriation on them from what i can tell

https://youtu.be/WFsABHynDZw

 

The following are 3.008,

The 109 i was flying a LaGG with Shvaks

110  a 23mm filled with HE belts and the 110 had the armored headrest removed. All the instances registered damage on the pilot inside the logs

 

 

As far as i know these are screenshot from your perspective and therefor likely to be wrong due to ping, desynch etc. You yourself said that the engine of the 109 got damaged after that hit on the cockpit.

 

My screenshots are from the client side of the bomber which means that ping etc. is not an issue and the hits are actually where they appear to be.

[SYN_Haashashin]

Hi,

 

Already locked one topic about this MP problem, no DM problem. To not lock ecerything related due to a mis information when opening the topic I will change the topic name.

 

If you guys keep saying is a DM problem, I will lock and delete the topic due to be misinformation.

 

Haash

[CountZero]

info from dev on russian forum, no need to panic it will be fixed

: https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/8056-обсуждение-версии-3009-у-2вс-крепость-на-волге-бостоны-над-кубанью/?do=findComment&comment=658923

 

We confirm the problem in a multiplayer game, something is wrong with the network (in a single-player game, everything is OK), we 
understand, there will be a hot fix ...

 

 

[Aap]

8 minutes ago, 77.CountZero said:

no need to panic

 

[KoN_]

Red planes are soaking up damage .  I watch four axis attack one spitfire all with hits and it still was performing and fighting . Multiplayer . TAW. 

[Ehret]

1 hour ago, II./JG77_Con said:

Red planes are soaking up damage .  I watch four axis attack one spitfire all with hits and it still was performing and fighting . Multiplayer . TAW. 

 

All planes are soaking damage. Managed to score the 37mm hit and few 0.50" and got shot down 1.5 minutes later by the same pilot/plane.

[KoN_]

On 1/2/2019 at 2:06 AM, Ehret said:

 

All planes are soaking damage. Managed to score the 37mm hit and few 0.50" and got shot down 1.5 minutes later by the same pilot/plane.

Im all for tougher planes but With four Axis two 190s and two 109s still cant bring down one flying fighting spitfire . 

Some thing is off . Since last patch .

I dont want it to go back to how it was with wings falling off all the time but are the Axis cannons working as they should . ??? This is all multiplayer .

 

see this ..........http://taw-server.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=79001&name=II./JG77_Con

Edited January 3, 2019 by II./JG77_Con

[CountZero]

10 hours ago, Ehret said:

 

All planes are soaking damage. Managed to score the 37mm hit and few 0.50" and got shot down 1.5 minutes later by the same pilot/plane.

 

 

37mm in game is useless, and combined with P-39 its like your trying to punish your self.

 

I tested it in controled enviroment, 1v1 good net conection, and empty server , just air spawn and 2 players, (to eliminate any netcode problems) and i can see what happends to me in 109 or 190 when P-39 37mm hits me and its rediciluse week. ( same resoults when try it vs AI 109/190s in quick mission).

 

Thats by far most heavy effected airplane by new DM they introduced with 3.008, in bad way. But its not that big problem as almost no one realy plays with P-39s, this game realy makes this plane look like mistake,to think that it was even made in real life and used, if its like it is modeled in this game, pilots flying them in real ww2 and performing good in them were superheros!

Edited January 2, 2019 by 77.CountZero