6./ZG26_Gielow Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) The weak spot on IL2 was the engine radiator. You can read on several pilots memories book plenty occasions where they spent all ammo and the sturmovik just keep flying. The plane just rolled out from hangar here and there will be adjustments but on original IL2 game series the plane is quite indestructible like his reputation in books. Edited February 16, 2014 by JG62Gielow
sturmkraehe Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 In original IL2 the crate was far from invulnerable if you knew where to aim at. I downed several of them with a Zero ...
dburne Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Finally go a chance to try this new update. Got my controls reset no problem. Gave the IL-2 ground attack mission in Stalingrad a try. Wow, performance has really come up, nice job - now my framerates only drop into the 40's in the smoke, no stuttering whatsoever that I saw even while attacking ground targets. Otherwise they pretty much stayed maxed out at 60 which is what I have them locked to. Very pleased with the performance with all the other aircraft in the air during the mission also. Of course AA eventually got me and I had to do a crash landing, but not before I was able to take some targets out with the cannons.
nynek Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 A few things from me. AI wingmen report too much and would be nice to have that stopped after they got an order from me. In current state I've to wait till the stack of reports is finished to get some response to my orders. Tell that damned AI's in Sturmoviks that during strafing mission they should strafe and NOT to make immelmanns with 109's. Order those Sturmovikers to stay in formation if not, transfer them to some airshow storm barn gang. Tell also those Laggs "wooden coffin" riders that when they fly with me they are here to COVER me and my squad. The guy/s who made a sun should move to Venus or Mercury. With that kind of German flak CNN would be Amerikanische Wochenschau today. For the first time in a loooong time I can see contacts. Permanent smoke, which is hallmark of every battlefield photography is perfect. That plus future clouds will cover this rainbow sky I hope. Besides that I'm happy people. And remember that .... I'm watching YOU !!! nynek
LLv44_Mprhead Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I was flying dogfight mission today, and when enemy ac was spotted, orange ring appeared around it. This happened also when flying with expert settings. Is this a new thing or bug or what? Anyone else?
nynek Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I was flying dogfight mission today, and when enemy ac was spotted, orange ring appeared around it. This happened also when flying with expert settings. Is this a new thing or bug or what? Anyone else? Press H key. On the issue of bug or what my answer is why not. During a fight wingmen gives You contact data in one short sentence and then You can localise its placement.
LLv34_Flanker Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 S! The armor around the engine and forward section of the cockpit was not impervious to 20mm ammo. It was the thick armor plate behind the cockpit that could withstand quite a bit of beating. Rifle caliber rounds were not able to penetrate the IL-2 armor plate from behind, but even a .50cal could penetrate sides and engine cowling. Brewsters did shoot down IL-2's and aimed past the rear armor. Also the wings were not armored like the frontal fuselage, a decent amount of hits there and the plane won't fly either. IL-2 is tough but not impossible to damage.
Robs Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 My IL-2 Video on the airfield attack scenario 1
Frequent_Flyer Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 The weak spot on IL2 was the engine radiator. You can read on several pilots memories book plenty occasions where they spent all ammo and the sturmovik just keep flying. The plane just rolled out from hangar here and there will be adjustments but on original IL2 game series the plane is quite indestructible like his reputation in books. The combat history/ record of the IL-2 is not a good one. Throughout its entire life span, in any incarnation it suffered horrible losses. Adding the rear gunner made an unsteady and difficult aircraft to fly even more unbalanced. Any battle damage exacerbated the difficulty of handling.
PA-Sniv Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Like the new dynamic shadows (shown on tank LiveStream). Only working with landing/vehicule lights and sun If I'm not mistaken. Hope these shadows will work with flares/explosions/searchlights...
AX2 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) In original IL2 the crate was far from invulnerable if you knew where to aim at. I downed several of them with a Zero ... ññ The armor is only 4mm for engine Edited February 17, 2014 by Mustang
Emgy Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) The combat history/ record of the IL-2 is not a good one. Throughout its entire life span, in any incarnation it suffered horrible losses. Adding the rear gunner made an unsteady and difficult aircraft to fly even more unbalanced. Any battle damage exacerbated the difficulty of handling. The BoS test pilot thought the IL-2 was very easy to fly. Btw combat record is influenced by many things, performance not necessarily the main factor. For instance, subsonic 1st gen Harriers with tiny radars and tiny action radius had a great combat record in 82. If it had gone against, say, Phantoms in A2A configuration, instead of near bingo fuel Skyhawks/Mirages on unguided bomb runs, the Harrier's combat record would probably have been very different. Edited February 17, 2014 by Calvamos 1
T6-ADStukadriver Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Once again, I was quite pleased with the progress in this excellent sim. I can obviously only speak for my experience, but it does seem like the ME-109 flight characteristics have become steadier...the elevator trim works well...I did not notice any real effect when using the rudder trim, but it seems that once she is in the air and picking up speed, the aircraft flies pretty stable and straight. The only thing I have noticed is a left hand yaw to roll once it just leaves the ground which can be overcome by right aileron and rudder inputs until speed increases as mentioned. Is this a tendency of the "real" ME-109? Assigning the joystick buttons for weapons seems erratic...last week, I could assign a button to machine guns only as well as cannon only, and all weapons...this week, it seemed that the assignments did not catch although the screen selection page showed the correct button names. A couple of times, it also seemed like the rudder control was not effective and I had to go beck to the assignment and adjustment routine to get the rudder to deflect correctly. I use a joystick with the twist for rudder...not yet graduated to floor pedals. I really enjoyed the AA activity...definitely have to keep jinking in mind...being hit by enemy aircraft fire results in what I think are very good damage effects...the busted wind screen and shattered plexi look great as well as wind noises. I think you are on the way to making an epic simulator/game. I hope you continue to put such quality and clever adds into the game. The models are beautiful...light effects are great.
AndyJWest Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I did not notice any real effect when using the rudder trim... You won't. The Bf 109 doesn't have rudder trim.
T6-ADStukadriver Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 AndyJWest - OHHH...thanks...well, that answers that... so do some of the other models have the rudder trim? That's why the option appears on the controls page? How do you guys find out about such details?
AX2 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 so do some of the other models have the rudder trim? YES That's why the option appears on the controls page? YES
SYN_Mike77 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Trim will be implemented for all planes but is not done yet. The 109 has an adjustable stabilizer that works as trim. We learn this stuff by reading the forum.
TheBlackPenguin Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 The BoS test pilot thought the IL-2 was very easy to fly. Btw combat record is influenced by many things, performance not necessarily the main factor. For instance, subsonic 1st gen Harriers with tiny radars and tiny action radius had a great combat record in 82. If it had gone against, say, Phantoms in A2A configuration, instead of near bingo fuel Skyhawks/Mirages on unguided bomb runs, the Harrier's combat record would probably have been very different. Indeed, I also recommend reading Sea Harrier over the Falklands http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Harrier-Over-Falklands-Paperbacks/dp/0304355429 if you have not already.
Emgy Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Of course, no disrespect meant to the Harrier, an amazing piece of engineering.
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