Can’t get more than 24fps!

[Furni]

Enjoying having VR but it does come with a few problems like the sound, after a week I got sound only to loose it after a forced restart as the ‘escape’ would work to come out of a quick mission, that escape key is really annoying!

 

Apart from that I’m only getting about 24fps on what I would say was a decent set up

 

Intel i7-8700K overclocked 5mhz
Maximus X Hero ATX MB
Corsair H100 liquid cooler
32gig trident Z DDR4 3200 memory

Samsung evo 960 500gig
Samsung 860 500gig

2x Kingston V300 250gig
Geforce GTX 1080 11gig Strix gaming OC card

Windows 10 pro

 

as you can imagine running in VR at this frame rate isn’t pleasant have about 15 mins then have to give in. Passing aircraft almost just jump across in front of me as they pass by. I have copied and pasted Ferris wolf tweaks in to the startup cfg  but I can’t seem to get Lufenest mod to work even with a mod installer. Plus everything seems blurred. 

 

If if anyone can give me some ideas to increase the FPS that would be great or tell me where I’ve gone wrong. 

 

Thanks

[dburne]

Something is definitely amiss there.

What VR Headset are you using?

How did it run before using any "tweaks" ?

What do you have in your graphics settings, along with Steam VR settings?

 

[JonRedcorn]

lol somethings not right, and without more details about your settings or your setup there's not much we can do.

[chiliwili69]

Go through this checklist:

 

[Furni]

Hi Guys

 

The VR unit is an Oculus Rift this is what is set up in the Sartup.cfg file
 

[KEY = graphics]
    3dhud = 0
    adapter = 0
    bloom_enable = 0
    desktop_center = 1
    detail_rt_res = 1024
    draw_distance = 0.54500
    fps_counter = 0
    fps_limit = 0
    full_height = 1080
    full_width = 1920
    fullscreen = 0
    gamma = 0.80000
    grass_distance = 0.00000
    hdr_enable = 0
    land_anisotropy = 1
    land_tex_lods = 3
    max_cache_res = 1
    max_clouds_quality = 2
    mgpu_compatible = 0
    mirrors = 2
    multisampling = 2
    or_enable = 1
    or_height = 2179
    or_hud_rad = 1.50000
    or_hud_size = 0.75000
    or_ipd = 0.06763
    or_width = 1748
    post_sharpen = 1
    preset = 2
    rescale_target = 1.00000
    shadows_quality = 2
    ssao_enable = 0
    stereo_dof = 5.00000
    vsync = 0
    win_height = 1080
    win_width = 1920
[END]

 

I'm not at home at the moment so will give more info once I'm back.  My SS in steam VR setting are set to 140% and "Advanced Supersample Filtering" is off sound is Rift headphones that's all I have changed in steam VR that I can remember will check once I'm home .

 

Cheers

[Furni]

Heres a screen shot of the graphic settings with in game.

 

will have look at the chiliwilie69  info tomorrow never enough hours in the day!

[dburne]

Try putting AA to 2x.

Try unchecking 4k textures and see if any difference.

Distant landscape x2.

[Sgt_Joch]

the fps are on the low side. My system is weaker than yours (i5-4670k@4.2 ghz, RX Vega 56, 16 G DDR3), but I am getting 45 fps near the ground and 90 fps at altitude in QMBs.

 

I have done very little tweaking, settings 150% PD, balanced/medium, distant landscape 1x, landscape filter: blurred, 2xAA. No tweaks to startup file or mods.

 

The only thing I would suggest is to lower your graphic settings to make sure that is not the issue. 

Edited December 10, 2018 by Sgt_Joch

[JonRedcorn]

Make sure your graphics card is set to high performance mode in the nvidia control panel. Something is not right with your setup. I doubt it has to do with the settings in game. 24 fps is way too low for your hardware.

[Furni]

I have checked the Nvidia control panel and have set it to 'high performance mode' but not had chance to try it will give it a go tonight, thanks all for the info so far.

[Furni]

OK just had as quick mossion flight and have got 33-36fps that's anywhare high or low over sea or land have reduced 'distant landscape detail down to 2 and altering the nvidia high performance mode may have helped too. Have check bios and ram is running 3200mhz. I cant find AVX on my bios (asus maximus hero x) to check if I can drop that down to 0 as chiliwili instruction/surgestion.

 

Still think I should be getting better FPS but at least I'm heading in thge right direction

Edited December 11, 2018 by Furni
Just remembered still no sound was working yesterday nothing today had sound in hanger then nothing once in flight-strange?

[dburne]

Yeah you should be getting way better really.

You really should never see in the 30's with your setup. Heck I don't have quite the rig you do and I never drop below 45 fps and am usually much higher than that.

 

Did you make any settings in Nvidia Control Panel other that "Prefer maximum performance" ?

 

Also if you have not yet, I would try a clean driver install:

Download latest Nvidia drivers.

Uninstall current drivers in safe mode, using Display Driver Uninstaller. 

Make sure to have internet unplugged when doing this.

After uninstall, boot PC back up ( internet still disconnected).

Install latest Nvidia drivers you had previously downloaded.

Install only the Driver and PhysX, none of that other stuff. Especially not GeForce Experience.

Once at desktop set Nvidia Control Panel to " Prefer Maximum Performance".

Leave all other settings at their default.

Reboot PC again for good measure/

Now give it a try.

 

Edit: For now I would not mess with startup.cfg or any mods, until you get the performance you should be getting first.

Just make all your graphics settings in game.

 

Edited December 11, 2018 by dburne

[Furni]

Thanks dburne will look at that tonight if I get time if not then tomorrow, with Christmas just around the corner there is so much more other  'life' things getting in the way!

 

Cheers

[Furni]

Ok tried the above and still only getting 35fps a tops, have altered the bios AVX to 0 from 3 as surgested by Chiliwili69 and also dropped down distant lanscape to x2 not made any differance.

 

Will have another look to see if I can get it higher most likley be the wekend before I can look again,  but any surgestions would be appriciated.

 

and had sound for about 60 second once in a quick flight then it just stopped had nothing since.

 

Cheers Keith

[dburne]

13 hours ago, Furni said:

Ok tried the above and still only getting 35fps a tops, have altered the bios AVX to 0 from 3 as surgested by Chiliwili69 and also dropped down distant lanscape to x2 not made any differance.

 

Will have another look to see if I can get it higher most likley be the wekend before I can look again,  but any surgestions would be appriciated.

 

and had sound for about 60 second once in a quick flight then it just stopped had nothing since.

 

Cheers Keith

 

I suspect there is a clue in the fact that you both can not get reasonable performance you should be getting along with the sound not working properly.

Have you checked any other games, like any of the Oculus games? Does the game perform ok along with the sound?

You are not running any vsync right?

 

At this point, I would consider a complete new clean install of IL-2, no mods to start. 

[von_Tom]

 

If you use OTT (or even if you don't) also check the Steam VR setting.  The Steam VR setting seems to multiply the OTT setting so if you are at 180% in Steam and 1.3 in OTT then you're actually running at 2.34 and that will cripple you.

 

In settings go to video and check the manual override box.  It should show a slider saying what automatic setting Steam VR has given you.  If it is around 180% (or whatever) take it back to 100% (if you use Oculus Tray Tool to set SS) and around 120% if you don't use anything else to set SS.

 

von Tom

 

 

[Furni]

Hi dbourne 

 

I don't use OTT and have manual set steam  to 150%, automatic setting was 200%, I'll mess around with it when I get chance like I say be the weekend now :O(

 

I will drop down to 'Balance' in IL2 from 'high' but really thought I wouldn't have a problem running at high but could be worth a check to see if it makes a difference.

 

Thanks again

[HunDread]

19 minutes ago, Furni said:

Hi dbourne 

 

I don't use OTT and have manual set steam  to 150%, automatic setting was 200%, I'll mess around with it when I get chance like I say be the weekend now :O(

 

I will drop down to 'Balance' in IL2 from 'high' but really thought I wouldn't have a problem running at high but could be worth a check to see if it makes a difference.

 

Thanks again

 

It must be something else. Sadly I don't know what, but you can be sure that you should easily run High with your rig with much higher FPS. You should try Balanced for the sake of testing of course.

 

I don't know if the i7-8700K has integrated graphics, but if yes, have you check if you are not running that instead of the dedicated graphics card?

[Furni]

Not sure about the  i7-8700K having integrated graphics but thanks for the info, I'll look into it and see what can be done - if anything.

 

Cheers

[Sgt_Joch]

that could be the issue, the 8700K does have integrated graphics. I had the same issue when I first built my current system. I have a Maximus VI Hero MB.

 

you have to boot into Bios and check the settings. If you are unsure how, check your motherboard manual. You have to make sure the setting is not "auto" or set to the IG. I disabled the IG on mine and forced the system to use the graphics card.

 

while you are at it, make sure your card is installed in the right PCIE slot. There is usually more than one, your card has to be in the primary card slot. In Bios there should also be a setting that the output is "x16 PCIE" or similar for the card.

 

for the sound issue, if you are on Win 10, make sure the "sound" setting in the "system" setting is set to oculus rift. If not, there should be drop down menu to allow you to choose it.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Sgt_Joch

[HunDread]

Yeah I also have IG disabled in BIOS but I believe it can also be disabled (or the right device selected) in NVIDIA Control Panel

[Furni]

23 hours ago, Furni said:

 

Hi All

have just turned off intergrated graphics in the bios and ran the game as soon as I entered the hanger the fps was reading 117fps thought this has cracked it, problem over, when I started a quick mission it was at 117 then it dropped to 90 then it just kept going lower and lower. Then is settled at 35-40fps. I even dropped the graphics down to ‘low’ and still I only managed 40fps. 

 

Will have a look at a few more tweaks in the bios and also try a full install of IL2 and see what happens.

 

For a moment there I thought we’d cracked it.

 

cheers

[dburne]

12 minutes ago, Furni said:

Hi All

have just turned off intergrated graphics in the bios and ran the game as soon as I entered the hanger the fps was reading 117fps thought this has cracked it, problem over, when I started a quick mission it was at 117 then it dropped to 90 then it just kept going lower and lower. Then is settled at 35-40fps. I even dropped the graphics down to ‘low’ and still I only managed 40fps. 

 

Will have a look at a few more tweaks in the bios and also try a full install of IL2 and see what happens.

 

For a moment there I thought we’d cracked it.

 

cheers

 

How were you getting 117 fps? With a Rift it should be capped to 90 fps.

Are you using the in game fps counter?

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Try individual (il2.exe) Nvida power setting  for prefer maximum performance.

[Furni]

Hi dbourne. Yeah I was using the in game frame counter not sure how I was getting that frame rate but it was showing 117 when I started to fly but it wasn’t that number for long drop to 90 and just kept going down. 

 

Tomcat will tweak those setting and see if that make any difference. 

 

Thanks

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

As the others have stated, I strongly doubt this is due to your game settings. There is something wrong with your Computer itself. 

 

Problem persisted, no matter what game settings you selected -> Software or Hardware problem.

Just take an SSD, install a clean system on it, no third party Softwares (be aware of third party antivirus solutions, some kick the frametime through the roof and VR hates that!), and check. Better? -> Software problem. 

Same as before? -> Hardware problem.

 

Then start excluding possible reasons.

This methodical approach will let you find the issue.

 

Good luck!

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Furni said:

Hi dbourne. Yeah I was using the in game frame counter not sure how I was getting that frame rate but it was showing 117 when I started to fly but it wasn’t that number for long drop to 90 and just kept going down. 

 

Tomcat will tweak those setting and see if that make any difference. 

 

Thanks

 

What kind of framerates do you see playing it on monitor rather than VR?

Really odd you would see a framerate with your Rift beyond 90 fps, I certainly never have.

Edited December 15, 2018 by dburne

[Furni]

When I ran the game without VR I’m getting 60fps so a little better than with Vr but would still have expected a little higher. 

 

I may may try a reinstall of IL2 tomorrow and see if that helps before looking at the computer itself. 

 

Thanks Fenris wolf wolf will do that a slow process but maybe the only way. 

 

Thanks

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Furni said:

When I ran the game without VR I’m getting 60fps so a little better than with Vr but would still have expected a little higher. 

 

I may may try a reinstall of IL2 tomorrow and see if that helps before looking at the computer itself. 

 

Thanks Fenris wolf wolf will do that a slow process but maybe the only way. 

 

Thanks

 

Yeah something is definitely very odd there. 

Try a complete reinstall with no mods.

[[CPT]Crunch]

Let me guess, you installed Asus Sonic Suite on your hero board, it's a disaster waiting to happen with your audio system.  It didn't really show up on mine until I tried to use viacom pro.  That's an avenue to explore, you won't like what you find out, generally requires an op system reinstall.  If so don't put any ASUS crap on your next win 10 and you'll be fine.  Anything that doesn't allow you an uninstall option is bad medicine.

[Furni]

Hi Crunch I have put sonic suite on don’t like the sound of a full install of op but if it’s the only way to get everything running right will try il2 install first then go for the op next. 

thanks

[Furni]

Managed to remove sonic software and have to say the sound is working fine just a pity the frame rates NOT working! Just deleted IL2 and doing a clean install not done that for a few updates so with luck it could help - fingers crossed. 

Edited December 18, 2018 by Furni

[Furni]

Ok reinstalled IL2 BOS and that hasn’t made any difference still running at 25-30fps. Just can’t understand why the FPS is low. Have sent an email to Oculus to see what they think or if I could have a faulty Rift! My last resort is to reinstall w10 which is something I’m not keen on just takes so long just reinstalling all programs  etc. 

 

It looks like I’m not the only one who has low FPS doing a google search it seems like some Vive owners have had the same problem but unfortunately I didn’t get any answers.

 

I’ll see what I get from Oculus.

 

At least the sound is working!

 

Thanks for all you info and help guys

[chiliwili69]

run the passmark benchmarks or userbenchmark:

 

https://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/

 

just to be sure your hardware and drivers are meeting expectations.

 

Try also to borrow a Rift from a friend and run it in your PC.

[Brano]

Check your graphics card is properly slotted and if system recognizes it at full 16x PCIe.

[BubiHUN]

Also, clean the CPU and GPU ventillators from dust. 
It happened to me yesterday, I had 8-9 FPS on all maps, in SP and MP too. 
Clean the parts I mentioned above, now everything is good for me.

Edited December 19, 2018 by -[HRAF]BubiHUN

[dburne]

16 hours ago, Furni said:

Ok reinstalled IL2 BOS and that hasn’t made any difference still running at 25-30fps. Just can’t understand why the FPS is low. Have sent an email to Oculus to see what they think or if I could have a faulty Rift! My last resort is to reinstall w10 which is something I’m not keen on just takes so long just reinstalling all programs  etc. 

 

It looks like I’m not the only one who has low FPS doing a google search it seems like some Vive owners have had the same problem but unfortunately I didn’t get any answers.

 

I’ll see what I get from Oculus.

 

At least the sound is working!

 

Thanks for all you info and help guys

 

Have you tried running the game just on your monitor and measure fps?

Have you tried any other games to see how they do with your Rift fps wise?

Viewing in task manager, what programs do you have running at desktop?

[Furni]

Hi all,

 

I have ran the above tests from Chiliwili post and all seems to be running fine unfortunatley I don't know of anyone who has a Rift to try, to make sure mine isn't faulty.

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 122%, Desk 106%, Work 124%
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 90.6%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 147%
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB - 189.2%
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB - 70.2%
SSD: Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB - 69.4%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB - 101.7%
HDD: Hitachi HDS721032CLA362 320GB - 43.3%
HDD: Seagate Expansion Desk 2TB - 85.4%
USB: WD Elements 2TB - 11.1%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3200 C16 4x8GB - 86.7%
MBD: Asus ROG MAXIMUS X HERO

 

Maybe you can see something that I cant but from the reports all seems well hardware wise.

 

Brano I have checked the GPU and all seems fine and is mounted OK on the MB I have even changed the power cables instead of the 'ponytail' type cable I have two seperate cables going to the GPU, I did a little research just to make sure I had connected everything, picked up that the GPU worked better with 2 power cable and not the 'split' type cable - it was worth a try. still only getting 25-30FPS more 25 to be honest.

 

BIDihun will take a look at cleaning fans but to be honest the fan on the GPU hardly spin! but will clean then anyway, thank for the info.

 

dbourne will try other games to see if I haver the same problem of low FPS when I run IL2 just on the monitor I get 60FPS which is what the monitor runs at.

 

Checked Task manager and no other programs running apart from Oculus and steam etc I do have something called PRIME95 which is running in BG at 69% could this be a problem not sure what the programe is!

 

Going to check email and see if Oculus have got back to me.

 

Thanks again guys.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2018 by Furni

[dburne]

37 minutes ago, Furni said:

 

 

dbourne will try other games to see if I haver the same problem of low FPS when I run IL2 just on the monitor I get 60FPS which is what the monitor runs at.

 

Checked Task manager and no other programs running apart from Oculus and steam etc I do have something called PRIME95 which is running in BG at 69% could this be a problem not sure what the programe is!

 

Going to check email and see if Oculus have got back to me.

 

Thanks again guys.

 

 

 

 

Sounds like you have vsync enabled, be sure it is not enabled when using VR.

 

Prime 95 - is a CPU stress testing program, you should not have that running.

 

[Furni]

Thanks dborne will see if I can close down Prime 95 then re test, do you know if I can delete it or is it part of W10?

 

Will double check  vsync and make sure it's off.

 

Thanks again