Problem with joystick button assignment

[DragonDaddy]

Greetings all!

I’m new to the sim and am having a problem binding guns to my joystick. It appears that I should be using “fire weapon group 1” for machine guns and “fire weapon group 2” for cannons.  I don’t see anything else that makes sense but I may be wrong. I’m wondering why the word “group” is used because I don’t want to group anything. 

 

When I bind my trigger to “group 1”, it fires both machine guns and cannons. Binding the cannon button to “group 2” does nothing. Obviously I want to control light and heavy guns individually. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help. 

[dburne]

Pretty sure that is how I have my MCG Pro grip set up, main trigger I use for group 1 ( MG), and flip down trigger I have assigned to group 2 ( Cannons).

 

[LukeFF]

Those terms are used, because some planes have only cannons, have their MGs on 2 separate triggers (such as the I-16), or they have gunpods that fire separately from other weapons. 

[Remontti]

If the OP is talking abot fw190, the machineguns and cannons are on same trigger. 

[DragonDaddy]

Thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that it is the 190 I was questioning. I also found other posts that verify this. Seems strange they can’t be separated but history dictates here. 

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, DragonDaddy said:

Thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that it is the 190 I was questioning. I also found other posts that verify this. Seems strange they can’t be separated but history dictates here. 

 

The later P-38s were the same way - all of the nose weapons were fired with one trigger. 

[RedKestrel]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

The later P-38s were the same way - all of the nose weapons were fired with one trigger. 

Il-2 1946 always had some fuzzy logic about this that I think contributes to confusion now, with the guns modeled more historically. In 1946, the P-38 let you shoot the cannon and the guns separately (the guns and cannon. I found it bizarre that the 8-gun P-47 let you shoot one set of 4 guns separately from the other four, presumably to allow players to set up a crude simulation of the harmonization patterns of the P-47s. But the P-51s didn't allow anything like that with 4 or 6 despite having similar harmonization patterns, and the 12-gun Hurricane IIB fired them all on one trigger too.

I probably flew a half dozen dogfights in the P-47 firing only 4 guns at a time before realizing I was missing half my armament.