K44K

[ICDP]

Some work in progress screenshots of my soon to be released 4K K4 template.  (about 99% done)

 

 

[Raptorattacker]

A true Rock 'n' Roller!!

[Psyrion]

You're great man!

[sevenless]

Absolutely gorgeous!

[CUJO_1970]

Awesome, thank you for all your hard work!

[E69_julian57]

Thank you 

[-LUCKY-ThanksSkeletor]

Looks awesome!

[spudkopf]

Very much looking forward to this

[Danziger]

So is it a 4KK4 or a K44K? ? 

Awesome as always!

[DB605]

Very nice work! Just a couple of notes, wing leading edge has usually wavy pattern since '44, there is straight lines too but most of them has wavy one.

 

Also in many cases Erla haube was left to RLM 66 both in and outside, they were pre-painted masked. Again there was exceptions, probably different practices between factories.

 

Edit. those remarks are for the skinners, not so much for the template ?

 

Stunning job, looking forward to release!

Edited November 30, 2018 by DB605

[Kurfurst]

Looks great! Keep 'em coming! 

[LuftManu]

Great! Looking forward the Kfoureskins ?

[Boomerang]

[Danziger]

54 minutes ago, LF_Gallahad said:

Great! Looking forward the Kfoureskins ?

 

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Edited November 30, 2018 by Danziger

[DB605]

Btw if any skinner is interested, i have scanned some pages from JaPo's excellent "Messerschmitt Bf 109K camouflage & markings" book here: http://s84.photobucket.com/user/zx701/library/JaPo Messerschmitt Bf 109 K Camoufage and Markings

 

Edit. let me know if page doesen't show correctly, seems to acting bit weird for me right now.

Edited November 30, 2018 by DB605

[Voidhunger]

Thanks ICDP!

[150GCT_Veltro]

Absolutely amazing!

[ICDP]

4 hours ago, DB605 said:

Very nice work! Just a couple of notes, wing leading edge has usually wavy pattern since '44, there is straight lines too but most of them has wavy one.

 

Also in many cases Erla haube was left to RLM 66 both in and outside, they were pre-painted masked. Again there was exceptions, probably different practices between factories.

 

Edit. those remarks are for the skinners, not so much for the template ?

 

Stunning job, looking forward to release!

 

Excellent info, I noticed the darker Erla haube colour and assume it was just the same dark camo colour as the rest of the plane.  I will fix this.  I will also add the wavy pattern on the wing leading edges.

 

Also Pierre PM'd me with some other detailing info.  Are these 4 fabric covered bolts a standard fixture on the K4?

[DB605]

5 minutes ago, ICDP said:

 

 

 Are these 4 fabric covered bolts a standard fixture on the K4?

 

 

I'm 99% sure they are not standard, they are not visible on most of the other pics.

[Jason_Williams]

I'm not into LW birds, but that looks super nice.

 

Jason

[Notclear]

28 minutes ago, DB605 said:

 

I'm 99% sure they are not standard, they are not visible on most of the other pics.

They must be standart with DB-605 D and the motor bonnet type 100 fitted on k-4 and maybe with some G-10, but not really sure of that.

"On K-4, 4 holes covered with pellets of canvases are visible on the fairing quarter-round. 
These ports provide access to the transformer retaining bolts that feed the artificial horizon."

 

[Voidhunger]

22 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

I'm not into LW birds, but that looks super nice.

 

Jason

 

[DB605]

12 minutes ago, Notclear said:

They must be standart with DB-605 D and the motor bonnet type 100 fitted on k-4 and maybe with some G-10, but not really sure of that.

"On K-4, 4 holes covered with pellets of canvases are visible on the fairing quarter-round. 
These ports provide access to the transformer retaining bolts that feed the artificial horizon."

 

 

Ok, well possible then. Where is this quote from, wartime manual?  I've just checked from Jean-Claude Mermets book "Messerschmitt Bf 109 G1 through K4 engines and fittings" and can't find any mentions of those.

Edited November 30, 2018 by DB605

[ICDP]

Or I could just add them as an option in my template ?

[DB605]

Just now, ICDP said:

Or I could just add them as an option in my template ?

 

That would be good solution indeed ?

[Notclear]

It comes from an off-series of the French magazine Aéro journal
on the identification of messerschmitt BF109G & K by Jean Claude Mermet also, July-August 2008 
There is the same illustration, but there is an other one just for the K-4, I've not the material to show you at home 
but I can do it tomorrow if you wish.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Notclear

[DB605]

5 minutes ago, Notclear said:

It comes from an off-series of the French magazine Aéro journal
on the identification of messerschmitt BF109G & K by Jean Claude Mermet also, July-August 2008 
There is the same illustration, but there is an other one just for the K-4, I've not the material to show you at home 
but I can do it tomorrow if you wish.

Yes please ? Probably updated info as book is from 1999. Need to find that magazine somewhere.

Edited November 30, 2018 by DB605

[Notclear]

There the picture from the mag.

 

 

The mag is out of stock but jean-Claude Mermet write a book in 2014 concerning all BF 109s, traducted in english in 2016:

https://www.amazon.fr/Messerschmitt-Bf-109-complete-monography/dp/2916403140/ref=la_B00QNA7XY2_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1543677448&sr=1-1

 

In the mag there is mention of G10 with this same motor bonnet, motorized by DB 605 D but there is no photos or profiles showing that.

 

Look at your PM DB6005.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Notclear

[ICDP]

Thanks for the heads-up on the book guys, I just bought a copy.  I prefer the technical books much more than the pilot biographies and this one looks excellent.

[KG_S_Rueganer2002]

  Great

[CUJO_1970]

On 11/30/2018 at 12:46 PM, Jason_Williams said:

I'm not into LW birds, but that looks super nice.

 

Jason

 

Well, that much is obvious. ?

[FurphyForum]

On 12/1/2018 at 1:17 AM, DB605 said:

Btw if any skinner is interested, i have scanned some pages from JaPo's excellent "Messerschmitt Bf 109K camouflage & markings" book here: http://s84.photobucket.com/user/zx701/library/JaPo Messerschmitt Bf 109 K Camoufage and Markings

 

Edit. let me know if page doesen't show correctly, seems to acting bit weird for me right now.

 @DB605;

Could I pls have the ISBN for that book.

 

Thanks 

[DB605]

@Notclear, thanks a lot, will order that book.

 

@Furphyforum, if you mean the code i don't think book have it, but it's this one: https://www.japo.eu/showpic.php?pic=books/bookcover7.jpg&bdr

 

Unfortunately it seems to be sold out long time ago. ?

[FurphyForum]

Thanks anyway DB ?