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II./JG27_Rich
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Now this is was GREAT!

 

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Depressing and, unfortunately, very true.

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Yep very good movie

 

 

re the first article, I though this point is wrong on the part of the writer

 

Anything dealing with, say, the subtle trials and hardships of everyday life in the American Midwest is going to be totally lost on someone from the other side of the planet.

But there is one thing that everyone in the world can understand and sympathize with, no matter what their culture or ethnicity: The need to run away if you are being chased by giant robots.


Likewise, foreign audiences also aren't as picky about good writing (a lot of it will be lost in the translation to subtitles anyway) or clever comedy (which is highly culturally specific). So if you're a studio executive who is choosing between financing a poignant coming of age film about an orphan ranch hand in East Texas or a film about a giant radioactive thunderstorm that gives people superpowers, chances are you're not going to go with the poignancy.

Just wrong. Otherwise, no complaints ;-)

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Man, whatever happened to that Halo movie Peter Jackson was going to make?

That's still a sore point for me :(

 

I guess we'll just have to stick to that other saga about heroes defying the odds to destroy an all powerful ring that Peter Jackson made.

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II./JG27_Rich
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Brother fostered a lot of kids and a cousin worked  in child protection until she was hurt in an accident so I'm use to horror stories....I love the music

 

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II./JG27_Rich
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Looks like a good movie. However it is very difficult for a non-native speaker to understand the accent (where is it from? Northern England? Scottish?).

 

Some of the independent movies are real gems ...

Like "Last Tango in Halifax" Instead of "On the Pole" you'd say "Ont pole" something like that. Bradford I guess

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXvntuybh8

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II./JG27_Rich
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Looks like a good movie. However it is very difficult for a non-native speaker to understand the accent (where is it from? Northern England? Scottish?).

 

Some of the independent movies are real gems ...

I've been watching English films all my life so you get use to it.

Mastermariner
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I’m from Sweden where most of the population are fluid, more or less, in English, partly because we subtitled all foreign movies from the start.

Now I live in SE Asia and can see the horrific result of dubbing!

What is the point of  trying to get a artistic and realistic response from an actor in original language that will end up in a , not even close to lip-synch, linguistic mishmash ?

 

Master

II./JG27_Rich
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I’m from Sweden where most of the population are fluid, more or less, in English, partly because we subtitled all foreign movies from the start.

Now I live in SE Asia and can see the horrific result of dubbing!

What is the point of  trying to get a artistic and realistic response from an actor in original language that will end up in a , not even close to lip-synch, linguistic mishmash ?

 

Master

I feel for you  :( ....The last way to watch foreign language films is dubbed in my opiniuon A movie like Das Boot or Amelie would be spoiled

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Mastermariner
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To add to the misery there are, to the best of my knowledge, only two (2) persons doing the voices in Thai. One female and one male!

 

Years ago I heard of a company travelling in the north on a truck with a projector and a screen but without the sound. They used to hire some local people to talk into a microphone and make up what they thought was fun and appropriate.  One of their best shows was a John Wayne move (Rio Bravo?) where John was to be the renowned homosexual mayor of the town.

 

The audience where crawling on the ground dying from laughter.

 

Master

II./JG27_Rich
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Also if you watch enough French, German, Swedish, Danish films etc with subtitles you may start to pick up more and more as far as understanding what people are actually saying. I think it pays to take a look what's actually out there besides N American films   :)


 

To add to the misery there are, to the best of my knowledge, only two (2) persons doing the voices in Thai. One female and one male!

 

Years ago I heard of a company travelling in the north on a truck with a projector and a screen but without the sound. They used to hire some local people to talk into a microphone and make up what they thought was fun and appropriate.  One of their best shows was a John Wayne move (Rio Bravo?) where John was to be the renowned homosexual mayor of the town.

 

The audience where crawling on the ground dying from laughter.

 

Master

OMG LOL....Thanks for sharing that Master  :biggrin:

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79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer
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Brother fostered a lot of kids and a cousin worked  in child protection until she was hurt in an accident so I'm use to horror stories....I love the music

 

 

Beautiful film, well acted. Not enough giant robots though.

II./JG27_Rich
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Beautiful film, well acted. Not enough giant robots though.

I guess it's partly based on Oscar Wilde's fairy tale "The Selfish Giant"  :) How she got those boys to do what they did in that film I'll never know. Both of them were non actors. She just auditioned in the area at the schools. That Arbor looks like he's 40 not 13  :(

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I remember taking my Thai gf to see the movie "Troy". She loved it of course, since it is about men fighting over a beautiful woman and that is pretty much all you need to understand. Afterwards I mentioned that in many interpretations of the original story Akhilleus and Patroklos were said to be homosexual lovers, hence Akhilleus' anger. She thought about it for a while and then said "It's good that they changed that". :)

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Funny, that was the main thing that pissed me off about the movie, that and Agamemnon dying. Completely pisses all over the story and makes Achilleus' motivation so much harder to understand.

 

I actually liked the rest of the movie, it was a decent Wolfgang Petersen flick.

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I actually liked the rest of the movie, it was a decent Wolfgang Petersen flick.

The only Wolfang Petersen film I need is Das Boot :)

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The only Wolfang Petersen film I need is Das Boot :)

That is his main contribution to cinema. Still my childhood wouldn't have been complete without "The Neverending Story" and "Outbreak" was also more than half decent.

II./JG27_Rich
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Peter Bogdanovich gives an intesting talk about the power of the "Closeup" in film making with one of my favorite classic comedies.

 

 

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