Oculus Rift - Black Friday

[Furni]

Have noticed the Oculus Rift is down in price to £349.00 in the UK is it still a good unit to go for?

Been waiting almost a year now for new VR products from anyone who makes them would like the StarVR one but at £3000 I'll give that a miss so I thought the Rift at £349 would be a good start to get into VR and see what develops in the coming years.

 

What do you guys think worth going for it while it at that price?

 

Thanks for the info and advice 

[Boneboys]

If you have a computer that is good (or better) enough to run a Rift then I would say yes, go for it.

There is a compatibility tool available on the Oculus site, make sure you test beforehand.

 

A VR headset is a game changer when it comes to flight & racing sims.

 

Post your specs so others may give advice...

Edited November 23, 2018 by Boneboys

[dburne]

Yes the Rift is a solid device all the way around, still loving mine.

[Archie]

Yep, am happy with mine at £399 so it's a bit of a bargain currently.

[Furni]

Thanks Guys, hopefully my PC spec should be fine

 

Intel i7-8700K overclocked 5mhz
Maximus X Hero ATX MB
Corsair H100 liquid cooler
32gig trident Z DDR4 3200 memory

Samsung evo 960 500gig
Samsung 860 500gig

2x Kingston V300 250gig
Geforce GTX 1080 11gig Strix gaming OC card

Windows 10 pro

 

All in a Corsair 450 case with plenty of air flow

 

Built it early this year with the intention of going VR, I'll put my order in if you guys think these specs are fine.

 

Cheers

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

That will do fine, my specs in the sig. I don't use monitor anymore for IL-2 and DCS.

Edited November 24, 2018 by Goblin

[Sgt_Joch]

Finally took the plunge. Can $449.

 

Early xmas gift to me.?

Edited November 23, 2018 by Sgt_Joch

[Furni]

Yeah just placed my order, an early Xmas gift for me too

 

 

[dburne]

 

Congrats guys, you are in for  a treat!

[JonRedcorn]

It's certainly a mind blowing experience putting it on for the first time, wish I could get that same experience again. Still incredible. Just now I wonder how the hell anyone plays multiplayer without luftenses mod.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

In time you build an ability to ID even without the mod.

 

I was able to shoot down plenty of planes before the mod, and can again now. The only planes at some risk of FF are macchis but even TIR players struggle with those.

 

A bit of SS helps with ID, but I'm sure you are already running some.

 

 

 

[Sgt_Joch]

Rift is on its way. Expected delivery tuesday.

 

Some questions:

 

-hardware: i5-4670k running at 4.2 GHZ overclock; 16 G DDR 3 ram; AMD rx vega 56 video card with 8G memory.

 

Hardware is close to or at recommended specs. What performance should I expect?

 

-OS: am still on Win7 64 bit. Will I have to upgrade to Win 10? Was hoping to delay that.

[dburne]

20 minutes ago, Sgt_Joch said:

Rift is on its way. Expected delivery tuesday.

 

Some questions:

 

-hardware: i5-4670k running at 4.2 GHZ overclock; 16 G DDR 3 ram; AMD rx vega 56 video card with 8G memory.

 

Hardware is close to or at recommended specs. What performance should I expect?

 

-OS: am still on Win7 64 bit. Will I have to upgrade to Win 10? Was hoping to delay that.

 

I am not familiar with that vid card, I would think you would be ok though.

Definitely recommend Win 10.

[FlyingNutcase]

I might just jump in with a hardware question here. I wasn't expecting to look at VR for another year but I see the Rift is priced pretty well now, like half of what I was expecting. Is it feasible with these hardware stats?

 

i7-2600K 

GTX1060 6GB

8GB 1333 RAM

P8 P67 Pro motherboard

 

Thanks for your thoughts!

 

PS Actually the only reason I'm considering this possible is after the positive reports from the latest release. Has it made enough of a difference to bring the base requirements down?

 

 

Edited November 25, 2018 by FlyingNutcase

[DeafBee]

I am in the same boat. Been using TrackIr 5 for many years now.  From what I read on this and orher forums, the Oculus Rift seem to be one of the best VR headset for Il2. 

 

I just hope I can still identify with the Rift and the lower resolution. 

 

If the Pimax 5k plus is a winner I can later upgrade for that. But for a start the Rift seems like a good option. 

 

My system is:

 

i7-5820K CPU 3.30 GHz. 3.30 GHz

NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080

16 GB RAM

 

Thanks for a great community. 

 

See you in the skies of WOL and the other multiplayer servers. 

 

 

 

[Alonzo]

15 hours ago, Sgt_Joch said:

-hardware: i5-4670k running at 4.2 GHZ overclock; 16 G DDR 3 ram; AMD rx vega 56 video card with 8G memory.

 

3 hours ago, FlyingNutcase said:

i7-2600K 

 

2 hours ago, 19te.Deafbee said:

i7-5820K CPU 3.30 GHz. 3.30 GHz

 

Unfortunately IL-2 is a very CPU limited game. Unless you can get 4.2 to 4.5 ghz out of a modern CPU you might be disappointed and stuck in 45 FPS ASW. But the good news is the Rift has magic tech to help make 45 FPS look a lot more like 90, so you might be fine. But basically the 2600K and 5820K are going to struggle, and the 4670K at 4.2ghz is going to be marginal. I'm not saying "don't get the Rift" just that IL-2 in particular is a bit of a pig on the CPU, so be ready for that. I'm running an 8086K at 5.0ghz and wish I had another gigahertz to throw at IL-2. Like seriously I want a 6ghz chip for this game... ?

[FlyingNutcase]

5 hours ago, 19te.Deafbee said:

I am in the same boat. Been using TrackIr 5 for many years now.  From what I read on this and orher forums, the Oculus Rift seem to be one of the best VR headset for Il2. 

 

I just hope I can still identify with the Rift and the lower resolution. 

 

If the Pimax 5k plus is a winner I can later upgrade for that. But for a start the Rift seems like a good option. 

 

My system is:

 

i7-5820K CPU 3.30 GHz. 3.30 GHz

NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080

16 GB RAM

 

Thanks for a great community. 

 

See you in the skies of WOL and the other multiplayer servers. 

 

 

 

 

Alonzo, thanks for the reality check. The fact that you have a cutting edge CPU and still want for more is quite sobering.

 

Deafbee, I think we flew together a few years ago - you were the gunner with me in an IL2 - you shot down two 109's before our strafing run then we got hit by flak and not realising you couldn't bail out due to damage I bailed out and left you to die a fiery death. I've never gotten over that you know. Combat guilt, lol. It would be good to fly again, especially in VR, but VR looks unlikely for me for a while. ?

Edited November 25, 2018 by FlyingNutcase

[[CPT]Crunch]

18 hours ago, Sgt_Joch said:

Rift is on its way. Expected delivery tuesday.

 

Some questions:

 

-hardware: i5-4670k running at 4.2 GHZ overclock; 16 G DDR 3 ram; AMD rx vega 56 video card with 8G memory.

 

Hardware is close to or at recommended specs. What performance should I expect?

 

-OS: am still on Win7 64 bit. Will I have to upgrade to Win 10? Was hoping to delay that.

Your card won't be an issue, but cpu might.  Running a stock AMD 56 with the bios flashed as a 64 set on turbo, it used to get 90+ frames, but it's still OK far as smoothness, no one gets 90's since a patch or two ago.  If you have an early 56 with the original samsung memory it's a hot rod, easy to overclock it to the point of too hot.  The flash upgrade will alleviate some heating and the gain is worth it.  Guys I fly with usually complain about smoke and effects on their Niv's, the 56 doesn't flinch, it loves smoke and clouds.  I can OC the card fine a bit more in IL, but it can't take it in DCS, it'll crash due to heat.  I use SS 1.4, could go higher but than spotting goes away.  Not a bad set up, but growing weary of the low res and screen door.

 

As for Win 7, used it a long while, for me it performed a bit better as far as frames, but very minor difference.  USB 3 ports may be an issue, it's very picky.  Sometimes it warns you of incompatibility, but it works just fine.  For the longest time it was telling me my vega card was no good, pretty sure it was near the upper curve at the time.  I still get bitching about USB on fresh installs, but it usually fixes itself by swapping drivers or plugs.

 

Personally have a $319.50 Odyssey + on the way, "I've gots to know".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maBJzJgYjto

[DeafBee]

3 hours ago, FlyingNutcase said:

 

Alonzo, thanks for the reality check. The fact that you have a cutting edge CPU and still want for more is quite sobering.

 

Deafbee, I think we flew together a few years ago - you were the gunner with me in an IL2 - you shot down two 109's before our strafing run then we got hit by flak and not realising you couldn't bail out due to damage I bailed out and left you to die a fiery death. I've never gotten over that you know. Combat guilt, lol. It would be good to fly again, especially in VR, but VR looks unlikely for me for a while. ?

 

I remember that flight FlyingNutcase.  That was great fun and I don't mind dying over and over in the game.  For me the immersive feeling of flying is more important than being competitive. For the same reason I have built my home cockpit for Il2. Now I feel it is time for me to finally get to try VR. 

 

I ran the compatibility check and everything should run okay. 

[FlyingNutcase]

1 hour ago, 19te.Deafbee said:

 

I remember that flight FlyingNutcase.  That was great fun and I don't mind dying over and over in the game.  For me the immersive feeling of flying is more important than being competitive. For the same reason I have built my home cockpit for Il2. Now I feel it is time for me to finally get to try VR. 

 

I ran the compatibility check and everything should run okay. 

Cool that you remember!

 

This is unexpected for my shaky old rig. Does IL2's CPU demands make this misleading?

 

[DeafBee]

55 minutes ago, FlyingNutcase said:

Cool that you remember!

 

This is unexpected for my shaky old rig. Does IL2's CPU demands make this misleading?

 

Looks good to me . Lets buckle up for the VR world.  

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

Is your 2600k overclocked?

If not, seriously consider this if you can. It will make the most difference in IL2.

I ran IL2 with a 2500K @ 4.5 ghz and a NVIDIA GTX970 prior to upgrading to the PC in my Sig.

 

From memory It was playable (in reprojection) without super-sampling, but struggled with (dropped below 45).

Would I still have played in VR with that 2500k? -  You bet. But then I prefer the immersion over the graphical fidelity.

[FlyingNutcase]

18 hours ago, =EXPEND=Tripwire said:

Is your 2600k overclocked?

If not, seriously consider this if you can. It will make the most difference in IL2.

I ran IL2 with a 2500K @ 4.5 ghz and a NVIDIA GTX970 prior to upgrading to the PC in my Sig.

 

From memory It was playable (in reprojection) without super-sampling, but struggled with (dropped below 45).

Would I still have played in VR with that 2500k? -  You bet. But then I prefer the immersion over the graphical fidelity.

 

I might try overclocking at the weekend. I've just had it running at stock 3.4GHz.

By the way, that's one enviable setup you have, in all regards. ?

[DeafBee]

On 11/25/2018 at 4:52 AM, Alonzo said:

 

 

 

Unfortunately IL-2 is a very CPU limited game. Unless you can get 4.2 to 4.5 ghz out of a modern CPU you might be disappointed and stuck in 45 FPS ASW. But the good news is the Rift has magic tech to help make 45 FPS look a lot more like 90, so you might be fine. But basically the 2600K and 5820K are going to struggle, and the 4670K at 4.2ghz is going to be marginal. I'm not saying "don't get the Rift" just that IL-2 in particular is a bit of a pig on the CPU, so be ready for that. I'm running an 8086K at 5.0ghz and wish I had another gigahertz to throw at IL-2. Like seriously I want a 6ghz chip for this game... ?

 

Thanks Alanzo for clearing that out. 

 

Yesterday I bought the Rift to see if it was something for me.  My Rift was stuck at the 45 fps with the ASW making the extra frames. Maybe I am just too old to new things, but I have never felt so motion sick in my life before. I believe the motion sickness is mainly because of the lack of frames, but also because everything looks blurred and out of focus,  I read here on this forum that you can get used to it, and the motion sickness will go away. Just thinking about going through that process stops me from wanting to fly more VR. Sadly ?

 

The bad experience could be because my computer CPU struggles. I don't know.  But until they find a way eliminate the motions sickness in VR I stick to my trusted TrackIr. 

 

These are my cons and pros about VR in Il2: (Its important to mention that this is only based on one day of testing the Oculus Rift).

 

My computer specs are:

i7-5820K CPU 3.30 GHz. 3.30 GHz

NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1080

16 GB RAM

 

 

Pros:

 

- Very immersive feeling. You REALLY feel you are in a ww2 plane.  Great made by the Il2 team. 

- Perfect tracking compared to my TrackIr which sometimes lose the tracking. 

 

Cons:

 

- Everything looks blurred and out of focus.(I followed the Rift instrcutions to get the best and clearest picture)

- Spotting and identifying planes from further away was to me imposible because of the low resolution. 

- Motion sickness.  (As mentioned above this could be because of my computer struggles to give me enough fps)  

 

 

[Alonzo]

3 minutes ago, 19te.Deafbee said:

Yesterday I bought the Rift to see if it was something for me.  My Rift was stuck at the 45 fps with the ASW making the extra frames. Maybe I am just too old to new things, but I have never felt so motion sick in my life before. I believe the motion sickness is mainly because of the lack of frames, but also because everything looks blurred and out of focus,  I read here on this forum that you can get used to it, and the motion sickness will go away. Just thinking about going through that process stops me from wanting to fly more VR. Sadly ?

 

Honestly I would keep trying, but try a game that is a bit less intense. VR is a very new experience and it takes a lot to get used to. Try Robo Recall which comes free with the Rift -- it's a fun cartoony game. Do that for a day, then maybe try IL-2 for a short time. You need to get your "VR legs" as they say. Don't be disheartened. Simulators and things like Skyrim are really intense VR experiences for people who are new to it.

[dburne]

Could also try disabling ASW and see if your experience is better.

CTRL+numpad 1 whilst in game.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

Trying IL2, specifically combat maneuvers as your first step into VR is a recipe for sickness.

 

Some can manage to stomach it first time, but I'd predict most wouldn't. 

 

I personally couldn't, and needed to build up my VR legs.

 

Now I believe I could fly all day (real life commitments prevents me getting a chance to try) and never experience the slightest feeling of sickness.

 

 

 

[Lensman1945]

Blured and out of focus?  It's certainly lower resolution than you may be used to on a monitor, but BOX should look nice and crisp in the RIFT. Just a thought, do you use prescription glasses in your non VR life? I wear glasses for distance vision and use prescription correction lenses in the RIFT to get a sharp picture.

[DeafBee]

Thanks for your input guys. Sounds like I have to give it more time.

 

8 hours ago, Lensman1945 said:

Blured and out of focus?  It's certainly lower resolution than you may be used to on a monitor, but BOX should look nice and crisp in the RIFT. Just a thought, do you use prescription glasses in your non VR life? I wear glasses for distance vision and use prescription correction lenses in the RIFT to get a sharp picture.

 

 No I don't use glasses. I guess I need to tveak it more to get a better picture then. 

[Sgt_Joch]

got it yesterday, spent a lot of time setting it up, playing the demos, even wound up finally upgrading to Windows 10 (did not know you could still do that for free).

 

anyway, all I can say is WOW! sitting in a 3d cockpit, flying over a 3d environment is pretty mind blowing. FC with the open cockpits is really cool.

 

now to start tweaking...

[dburne]

27 minutes ago, Sgt_Joch said:

got it yesterday, spent a lot of time setting it up, playing the demos, even wound up finally upgrading to Windows 10 (did not know you could still do that for free).

 

anyway, all I can say is WOW! sitting in a 3d cockpit, flying over a 3d environment is pretty mind blowing. FC with the open cockpits is really cool.

 

now to start tweaking...

 

Enjoy!!

[AuburnAlumni]

2 hours ago, Sgt_Joch said:

got it yesterday, spent a lot of time setting it up, playing the demos, even wound up finally upgrading to Windows 10 (did not know you could still do that for free).

 

anyway, all I can say is WOW! sitting in a 3d cockpit, flying over a 3d environment is pretty mind blowing. FC with the open cockpits is really cool.

 

now to start tweaking...

Yeah, it's been said before...but there is just no going back to 2D Flight simming after experiencing IL-2 (or DCS or any flight sim) in VR.  It's the single biggest "Wow" moment I've had since first getting a Nintendo back in the mid 80s. 

 

I've got the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS and Throttle, plus monstertech table mounts...plus flight pedals.  That combined with VR is basically Flight Sim Nirvana.

Edited November 28, 2018 by AuburnAlumni

[Janeco]

Guys what mod is this you are talking about? want some ahaha

 

[Furni]

Hi All

For the last 4 hours I have been trying to set up the Oculus all seems to be going well but the unit keeps restarting or disconecting  during the set up I had a notice saying the there was a hardware problem but this would then disapear and was fine but this keeps happening I get the Ocolus 'room' for about 3-4 seconds then it all black unitl it reboots. Is the unit faulty?

 

So far not a good start for my VR experience have downloaded steam VR but that keeps saying not connected, I'm off for a beer I've had enough tonight.

 

If anyone can help out please let me know and I'll try again tomorrow.

 

If not then this will be the end of Vr for me - for know anyway!

 

cheers all.

[dburne]

What are your system specs?

How exactly do you have the Rift hooked up to your system?

Don't worry with Steam VR until you get your Rift up and running properly.

 

 

[Flappy613]

I'm going to put his shameless plug for the Devs here.

 

    I actually bought a Black Friday gift for myself this year.   It was a lowly copy of BoS from Steam so I can fly on their servers in VR for my Rift's 1st Anniversary as well as vote for Great Battles series as VR game of the year.  I totally agree that once you fly in VR you probably won't be able to go back and I've even started to master the 109 JUST because of 1CG/777's attention to detail so Bravo to you Devs for that! 

I myself have had almost every commercially available combat flight sim for PC available since 99 or so and I even have all the DCS stuff up to A-10 and the Nevada map and IL-2 is STILL the King.   Plus TANKS.   Who doesn't love Tanks?    I like to make the Tanks explode into bright, shiny colors, but I dunno maybe I'll try BEING a target for a change and buy the TC module. I probably will just for the map but as funds are a bit tight now I'm in "giving" mode instead.

 

    But VR has been a game changer like I haven't seen the likes of since my first 3dfx card. I slapped those goggles on, cranked up the SuperSampling and haven't looked back. I'll end up upgrading my years old 4790K this year because of it and probably be trying to snivel my way into a Vive Pro by Holidays.

 

     But the feeling of going vertical in the dreidecker? Incomparable. I cannot wait for FC, but I'm having an amazing time as a 109 pilot on the Ostfront while I wait.

     

 

     

[Furni]

Here’s my system spec hopefully it should run VR without any problems

 

Intel i7-8700K overclocked 5mhz
Maximus X Hero ATX MB
Corsair H100 liquid cooler
32gig trident Z DDR4 3200 memory

Samsung evo 960 500gig
Samsung 860 500gig

2x Kingston V300 250gig
Geforce GTX 1080 11gig Strix gaming OC card

Windows 10 pro

 

everything seemed to go well while installing and plugging in usb plugs etc but after about 10 minutes as I was going through the setup it would say ‘hardware problem’ it would scan again and all would fine it was always the head unit that was the problem. So what happens now is I can open up Oculus app and I have about 10 second in that room then it just goes black until it reboots.  I have both sensors and head unit plugged into usb 3. The sensors seem to be fine. I have the mask plugged in to a usb pci card and not directly in the motherboard could this be the problem. 

 

Hope you can help, was a little disappointed yesterday was hoping to have a first fly in VR ☹️ Will have another bash at it later - a busy day ahead I’m afraid everyday life is in the way at the moment. 

 

Flappy613 I have to agree been interested in flghtsims since about 87 with ‘Hellcats’ on Apple Mac been hooked on flightsims ever since, IL2 being the best just hope I can get the rift to work. VR seems to be the best thing for gaming to come out for quite a while. 

[SvAF/F16_Goblin]

Hi Furni,

The only thing I can think of atm, since the specs will run VR ok, is that you might need a dedicated USB 3 PCI card to power the Oculus and sensors.

There was a recommended card from Inatek that I use myself.

https://www.amazon.de/Inateck-20-poliger-15-poligem-SATA-Anschluss-2-x-15-Pin-Kabel/dp/B00FPIMJEW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1543652642&sr=8-7&keywords=inateck+usb+3.0

 

One other thing is that there was someone having problem with Oculus and Steam VR solving the problem by using a driver bypassing Steam VR but I haven't tried this myself so cannot vouch for the success

https://gitlab.com/znixian/OpenOVR/blob/master/README.md#system-wide-installation

 

I hope a solution will present itself because VR is "da shit" in my opinion.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Goblin

[-332FG-Gordon200]

Hang in there. Do not despair. The VR experience is worth it.

The VR headset should be plugged into a display port on your GTX 1080.

If you haven't already done so download the Oculus Rift patch linked at the bottom of this page - https://www.oculus.com/rift/setup/

Steam VR should pick up the sensors and headset without Oculus running. And you don't need to start Steam in order to use IL*2 in VR. Once you make your settings you don't need to open it again.

When you want to fly hold the headset about face level and aimed at your monitor. Start the Oculus program and then minimize it to the tool tray. You may notice your monitor wink out for a sec. Now when you launch IL*2 you should be able to put on your headset and begin.

I was experiencing a lot of problems with the set up until I reinstalled Steam and Steam VR along with the above patch.

Hope this helps.

[dburne]

3 hours ago, Furni said:

Here’s my system spec hopefully it should run VR without any problems

 

Intel i7-8700K overclocked 5mhz
Maximus X Hero ATX MB
Corsair H100 liquid cooler
32gig trident Z DDR4 3200 memory

Samsung evo 960 500gig
Samsung 860 500gig

2x Kingston V300 250gig
Geforce GTX 1080 11gig Strix gaming OC card

Windows 10 pro

 

everything seemed to go well while installing and plugging in usb plugs etc but after about 10 minutes as I was going through the setup it would say ‘hardware problem’ it would scan again and all would fine it was always the head unit that was the problem. So what happens now is I can open up Oculus app and I have about 10 second in that room then it just goes black until it reboots.  I have both sensors and head unit plugged into usb 3. The sensors seem to be fine. I have the mask plugged in to a usb pci card and not directly in the motherboard could this be the problem. 

 

Hope you can help, was a little disappointed yesterday was hoping to have a first fly in VR ☹️ Will have another bash at it later - a busy day ahead I’m afraid everyday life is in the way at the moment. 

 

Flappy613 I have to agree been interested in flghtsims since about 87 with ‘Hellcats’ on Apple Mac been hooked on flightsims ever since, IL2 being the best just hope I can get the rift to work. VR seems to be the best thing for gaming to come out for quite a while. 

 

Not sure I understand how you have it hooked up here,

 

You state you have both sensors and headset USB plugged into USB 3 ports.

Then you state the mask plugged into a PCI USB card.

 

How do you have the headset HDMI plugged in?

Ideally it should be plugged in directly to your GPU HDMI. Then use display port for your monitor.

 

If that his how everything is set up, try downloading the Oculus package again and when you launch it choose to Repair.