=MAG=JimBeamBlack Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Or other theaters of war? I have been dreaming about someone creating a quality tank sim for years, I used to play M1 Tank Platoon way back in the DX2 80mhz days and after that Armored Fist. The new computer technology is screaming for a top quality tank sim!! (sorry if this has been asked before, did a search.) thanks 1
Fafnir_6 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) Hello, I don't think anything has been formally announced. Any expansions for the Tank Crew concept would likely depend on Tank Crew's financial success as a module (i.e. buying and promoting Tank Crew would aid the chances of that happening). That said, the groundwork for a detailed armor sim is being laid for Tank Crew and it is already pretty awesome in its alpha form, at the moment. This concept has massive potential and I know some of the non-IL-2 community that supports games like Steel Fury are watching Tank Crew's development closely. The Battle of Bodenplatte module offers some very interesting ramifications towards potential future tank crew projects, since American, British and late-war German vehicles will need to be modeled for that module anyways as part of the assets of that theatre. Once the framework for tank combat is well in place, it may be relatively straight-forward to adapt those assets into a smaller-scale Western front armor module (100km X 100km Ardennes - Battle of the Bulge would be the natural choice, IMHO). I guess we'll see. Cheers, Fafnir_6 Edited November 22, 2018 by Fafnir_6 4
=MAG=JimBeamBlack Posted November 22, 2018 Author Posted November 22, 2018 Well then I will do may part to make it as successful as I can. I have been wanting to give it a try, might as well pick it up today. Thanks for the reply. 1 2
Fafnir_6 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) That was my thought as well! Tank Crew will ship with a version of the Sherman for you to get your US tanking jollies out while we wait for future theatres. I'm sure the community will produce many US skins for the Tank Crew Sherman (there are already a ton of custom skins for the Tiger I and KV-1). Panzer Vor! Fafnir_6 Edited November 23, 2018 by Fafnir_6
NETSCAPE Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I hear a super dope Stug III G collector tank will be released. It was the most produced German AFV of the war after all. 1
Field-Ops Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I imagine that this tank crew wasnt intended to be a one-off project. If its successful they should plan for further installments. A 44-45 western front scenario would make a lot of sense and fit well with Bodenplatte, though another Russian front would also be likely.
=MAG=JimBeamBlack Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 There are just so few tank simulation "games" that are fun anymore. There were a few back in the 80's 90's that were a lot of fun. This is a great opportunity to mix super detail AND some great recreated WWII battles. I love the planes they create, I hope they stick with the tanks as well and keep this project growing. Happy New Year!! 1
=gRiJ=Roman- Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) The sequel should be ... The Battle of the Ardennes or Bulge. It would match BOBp What tanks should include? Köningstiger and ....? Edited January 1, 2019 by 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan 1
Field-Ops Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 5 hours ago, 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan said: The sequel should be ... The Battle of the Ardennes or Bulge. It would match BOBp What tanks should include? Köningstiger and ....? Battle of the bulge? Hmm... M4 Sherman 75 with a 76 gun mod? M10 or M36 Churchill or Cromwell M18 Hellcat M26 Pershing Tiger II H Panther A or G Jagdpanther Stug IV Tiger I E
Fliegel Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Field-Ops said: M4 Sherman 75 with a 76 gun mod? It's entirely new turret so I guess it would be an another tank.
=362nd_FS=RoflSeal Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) My idea for for West Front 44-45 Battle of Normandy mainly focusing on the British forces which faced 85% of the German armor in this period M4 Sherman (75mm standard with 17 pdr as a mod) Tiger II P M10 (with 17 pdr as a mod) Stug III G Cromwell V Panther A Churchill VII Panzer IV H M4A1 76W Sherman Marder I or III Tiger I currently ingame can be have an upgrade to represent Tiger I in Normandy (new copula, mantlet etc) Battle of the Bulge focusing mainly on the Americans and not just Battle of the Bulge itself but also crossing of the Rhine (like how Bodenplatte represents a longer period) M4A3 Sherman (gonna need both 75 and 76mm turrets tbh) Tiger II H M4A3E2 Jumbo Sherman (with the 76mm as a mod) Jagdpanzer IV M18 Hellcat Jagdtiger M36 Jackson Panther G Comet or Pershing Jagdpanzer 38t Edited January 1, 2019 by =362nd_FS=RoflSeal 1 2
Thad Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 Salutations, Yes, the future battle options are numerous and intriguing.
NETSCAPE Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Battle of Brody would be my vote. I'm not really interested in western front stuff. Though africa corps might be interesting. Edited January 2, 2019 by NETSCAPE 1
Legioneod Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/1/2019 at 12:20 PM, =362nd_FS=RoflSeal said: My idea for for West Front 44-45 Battle of Normandy mainly focusing on the British forces which faced 85% of the German armor in this period M4 Sherman (75mm standard with 17 pdr as a mod) Tiger II P M10 (with 17 pdr as a mod) Stug III G Cromwell V Panther A Churchill VII Panzer IV H M4A1 76W Sherman Marder I or III Tiger I currently ingame can be have an upgrade to represent Tiger I in Normandy (new copula, mantlet etc) Battle of the Bulge focusing mainly on the Americans and not just Battle of the Bulge itself but also crossing of the Rhine (like how Bodenplatte represents a longer period) M4A3 Sherman (gonna need both 75 and 76mm turrets tbh) Tiger II H M4A3E2 Jumbo Sherman (with the 76mm as a mod) Jagdpanzer IV M18 Hellcat Jagdtiger M36 Jackson Panther G Comet or Pershing Jagdpanzer 38t Would love to see this. The bulge list is my prefered expansion though. M4A3E2 Jumbo would be a dream along with the Jagtiger. 1
Dogbert1953 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 No Tommy Cookers thank you, But a Cromwell V and Churchill VII would do me fine. ? Mike.
Fliegel Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Dogbert1953 said: No Tommy Cookers thank you, But a Cromwell V and Churchill VII would do me fine. ? Mike. Hmm. I never saw any primal source of this nickname for a Sherman (same as with Ronson) makes me think it is probably a myth emerged after the war. And I do like Cromwell but they used the same fuel and the same ammo as a Sherman (UK did not use HE filler but that was not what makes ammo storage dangerous). Not really a safer tank.
Dogbert1953 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Nope i watched a documentary here on tv about a month back. British Army tankers who fought from Normandy onwards. Relating their experiences and how bad they thought the Sherman was. They recognised and used both Tommy Cooker and Ronson as given nicknames. Mike.
ShamrockOneFive Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Battle of the Bulge makes so much sense for a future Tank Crew addition. Especially with the aircraft set that Bodenplatte is developing now... combine those two and you have another awesome combined arms set. 2
Fliegel Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, Dogbert1953 said: Nope i watched a documentary here on tv about a month back. British Army tankers who fought from Normandy onwards. Relating their experiences and how bad they thought the Sherman was. They recognised and used both Tommy Cooker and Ronson as given nicknames. Mike. Do you remember the name of the documentary?
Dogbert1953 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 Sorry no buddy, i take a lot of medication for anxiety and other mental health problems. My memory is absolutely shocking, sorry. Mike.
Fliegel Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 No worries, I myself would not remember what I saw a month ago. I just had to ask.
Dogbert1953 Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 I am terrible at names and titles Fliegel. But pretty good remembering what happened in a movie or documentary. Mike.
=MAG=JimBeamBlack Posted February 2, 2019 Author Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said: Battle of the Bulge makes so much sense for a future Tank Crew addition. Especially with the aircraft set that Bodenplatte is developing now... combine those two and you have another awesome combined arms set. I like it! Outstanding idea!! Edited February 2, 2019 by =MAG=JimBeamBlack
Legioneod Posted February 2, 2019 Posted February 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Dogbert1953 said: Nope i watched a documentary here on tv about a month back. British Army tankers who fought from Normandy onwards. Relating their experiences and how bad they thought the Sherman was. They recognised and used both Tommy Cooker and Ronson as given nicknames. Mike. Interesting. Another thing that I find interesting is the American Sherman's were actually much safer and had less crew losses than the British counterpart. This had to do with the fact that Brits didn't wear helmets and American Sherman had wet stowage later in the war (not sure if the Brits ever got this, didnt they only us the M4A2 ?) Statistically the Sherman was one of the safest tanks during the war. 1
Fliegel Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 11 hours ago, Legioneod said: Interesting. Another thing that I find interesting is the American Sherman's were actually much safer and had less crew losses than the British counterpart. This had to do with the fact that Brits didn't wear helmets and American Sherman had wet stowage later in the war (not sure if the Brits ever got this, didnt they only us the M4A2 ?) Statistically the Sherman was one of the safest tanks during the war. I think they used mostly M4 and M4A3 but definetly not only M4A2. Cromwell didn't have the problem with the ammo storage placement as the Sherman did and so it din't need wet storage fix. Some UK tankers units did wear helmets - but it seems to be very rare. I remember some photo from Dunquerke where commander of a Cromwell shooting at the Germans position wears a helmet. This however a problem of the organisation, not the tank type as they would not wear it in their Shermans as well I think that they are the same, perhaps except bailing out speed, if "Oh my God, the tank if on fire" test are to be believed. But then Cromwell were faster with lover hulls profile, but some Sherman had somehow better armour, but Cromwell could climb higher obstacles... etc.
1CGS LukeFF Posted February 5, 2019 1CGS Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/2/2019 at 8:26 AM, Dogbert1953 said: Nope i watched a documentary here on tv about a month back. British Army tankers who fought from Normandy onwards. Relating their experiences and how bad they thought the Sherman was. They recognised and used both Tommy Cooker and Ronson as given nicknames. Mike. No offense, but I'd call into question the quality of a documentary that's still peddling that tired old myth about the Sherman being a Ronson and an overall bad tank. The British and Commonwealth forces were using the same models of the Sherman (to say nothing of the excellent Firefly) as the Americans by 1944, and by 1944 the old bad traits of the Sherman had effectively been rectified. It's like that other myth about how it took 5 Shermans to kill one Tiger - total bunk.
NETSCAPE Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 Ah, the usual Sherman this Sherman that. and Muh Tiger. Yet no one ever asks, what would a smol tracky boi do?
J5_HellCat_ Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Edited February 5, 2019 by HellCat_
Voidhunger Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 I dont think that firefly was a good tank, but the gun was powerful if you manage to hit something and the round didnt richochet.
Dogbert1953 Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Deleted. Edited February 6, 2019 by Dogbert1953
Fliegel Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, NETSCAPE said: Ah, the usual Sherman this Sherman that. and Muh Tiger. Yet no one ever asks, what would a smol tracky boi do? Isn't it obvious?
Fliegel Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Voidhunger said: I dont think that firefly was a good tank, but the gun was powerful if you manage to hit something and the round didnt richochet. Isn't that true about all the guns? And 17pdr wasn't somehow noticeably worse in those than others. It was just too big for Sherman (with that turret and narrow tracks). 30 minutes ago, Dogbert1953 said: The US went with quantity rather than quality. You could open the Sherman with a can opener, never mind a shell from an 88. Every documentary i have ever seen in regards the ETA. Points out the fact that the only good thing about the Sherman was it was supplied in limitless numbers. The fact that crews welded old tracks and any other chunks of metal to the front of it to increase the armour. Says a lot about how vunerable the crews felt in it. Of course in the Pacific war they were brilliant. The Japanese didn't have any comparable armour. Even the Firefly with its excellent British 17 pounder turret mounted armament. Had to stand off from the Tiger & Panther tanks. Due to the poor armour protection. But at least they had a gun that could penetrate both enemy tanks. Mike. And realiability and transportability. 88mm could open the Tiger itself. Not sure what kind of can opener are made in Wales today. Then compare how how is to repair any big cat and how hard is to repair the Sherman. Changing transmission, wheel, suspension... things like that. Tank crews used to weld tracks on their tanks during the WW2, it is noting exclusive to Sherman. Even Tigers have those sometimes on sides - and the Shermans 75mm is able to beat its sides, not mention the Sherman 76mm which could beat Tiger frontally. The point for improvisation like Firefly was, was to face Tigers and Panthers, not to evade them. Firefly did not have protection to withstand the 88 mm but neither Tigers had the armour to stop the 17pdr. Front hull of the Panther was a different story, but sides were vulnerable from kilometers even for the 75mm.
Dogbert1953 Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Deleted. Edited February 6, 2019 by Dogbert1953 As per my final post.
1CGS LukeFF Posted February 5, 2019 1CGS Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Dogbert1953 said: Every documentary i have ever seen in regards the ETA. Points out the fact that the only good thing about the Sherman was it was supplied in limitless numbers. Then you've been watching pretty crappy documentaries and not doing your own research into what sort of tank the Sherman really was.
Dogbert1953 Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Deleted. Edited February 6, 2019 by Dogbert1953 Joke went to far.
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