How many Gs make the pilot black out in-game?

[Rattlesnake]

I realized I didn’t have an exact answer for this question.

[JG4_Nemesis]

to be honest, I've never ever had a serious black out yet...maybe due to the concrete elevator of the 109 in a dive...

[[PFR]Sarpalaxan]

It could be figured you would need to record a steady pullup with the camera pointed at the spedometer and the Arteficial horizont. The horizont woul have Exact Markings in degrees. That way we could calculate the change in angle per second and the radius of the turn that leads to Blackout.

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

109 rarely black out maybe in a descending spiral at 80* bank is a constant 6-7G, then a pull out might allow 9G.
but in a dive yes it seems the elevator does not have enough authority to pull the needed G's.
(According to the pilots that fly it, so not me)

202,190,110 G2 All of them i black out in somewhat often.

190 almost every flight when i dive on someone from 3K and get timing wrong and end up pulling hard G.
 

On 11/13/2018 at 1:46 AM, Sarpalaxan said:

It could be figured you would need to record a steady pullup with the camera pointed at the spedometer and the Arteficial horizont. The horizont woul have Exact Markings in degrees. That way we could calculate the change in angle per second and the radius of the turn that leads to Blackout.

Can just use tac view record some aerobatics in single player quick mission black out a few times then go watch the Tacview track afterwards You can see,

Angle of attack,
G's on pilot,
G's on aiframe,
Dynamic Wing loading indicators.
horsepower
torque
thrust
like 50 variables.

 

On 11/5/2018 at 2:24 PM, CMBailey said:

I realized I didn’t have an exact answer for this question.

OP your question is more of a how long is a piece of rope kinda question.

What It might take to black out varies from plane to plane and situation.
(angle pilot is seated and his position relative to CG of plane (pivot point), How Many and how long those G's are applied.)

10G's for 3 seconds or 15G's for 1 second or 6G over 30 seconds (spiral) (might all end in a blackout)
-5G instant red out, -2G for 20 seconds red out.

Edited November 17, 2018 by =TBAS=Sshadow14

[[PFR]Sarpalaxan]

Ok yes didn't know Tac View exists, That would make it easier. But Where's the Fun in easy when you can do more Mathematics for the same Result? But yes with this we could also test if it is really g-force over time or if the game has a set G-Force Limit.

[Rattlesnake]

Did P-51s in the war have G-meters? The P-51D module in DCS does. That being the case we’ll have some answers soon enough I suppose.

[[TWB]Sauerkraut-]

7 hours ago, CMBailey said:

Did P-51s in the war have G-meters? The P-51D module in DCS does. That being the case we’ll have some answers soon enough I suppose.

 

Fun fact: This is called an "accelerometer" because G-force is a measurement of acceleration.

[Blackhawk_FR]

4 minutes ago, itsthatguy said:

 

Fun fact: This is called an "accelerometer" because G-force is a measurement of acceleration.

 

Also called G meter

 

http://www.aeroshop.eu/fr/flight-instruments/g-meters.html

[Feathered_IV]

There’s the G-2, the G-4, the G-6 and also the G-14.  If they pull any more G’s I will surely black out.  

[Finkeren]

5 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

There’s the G-2, the G-4, the G-6 and also the G-14.  If they pull any more G’s I will surely black out.  

 

Actually there are two G-2s. Don’t forget the 110.

[Feathered_IV]

[Godspeed]

I have never seen that pilot passes out.

I dont think its even possible ??

[BubiHUN]

5 minutes ago, Godspeed said:

I have never seen that pilot passes out.

I dont think its even possible ??

It is. You need extremely high speed. 

[Screamer]

Did it quite often in the I16 and the Spit V, blacking out. B&Z fighters a lot less.
So it is possible, no idea where the limit is. I should upload those tracks to tacview

[EAF19_Marsh]

V squared / R - should give you a rough guide if you record and spend a bit of time guestimating ?

[FTC_DerSheriff]

on the topic that the elevaator authority is not sufficient to black out in a 109.
I fear you do it wrong.

Edited November 13, 2018 by DerSheriff

[Reckoner_]

On 11/12/2018 at 3:08 PM, I/JG27_Nemesis said:

to be honest, I've never ever had a serious black out yet...maybe due to the concrete elevator of the 109 in a dive...

 

Most likely you are not trimming your elevator correctly.