Really struggling with IL-2 on new 2080 Ti FTW3 - SOLVED!

[dburne]

Guys I am at a loss here.

Initially when I first put this new card in about a week ago, IL-2 ran fine.

Performance is now in the toilet.

 

Ok here's the scoop:

My new EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra runs my other games great. Boosts to a consistent 1980 Mhz during the session ( yes another combat flight sim also). GPU temps very good - low 60's.

Very pleased with my new card there.

 

IL-2 - no go. Card runs at 1350 Mhz, GPU temp at 41c. This makes absolutely no sense. At first it ran it ok when first putting in, now for last few days it has not.

I have troubleshooted like crazy, to include a complete driver sweep with DDU with no internet connected,  and a very clean new install of the Nvidia drivers. No GeForce Experience, just the drivers. I have tried running IL-2 in both PWCG missions, and in very basic quick mission with just my plane. I mean this is crazy. 1350 Mhz clock speed.

 

I am at the end of things to try. At this point wondering if a complete uninstall and new install of IL-2 might be worth giving a go? I would hate to go through all that and end up in the same dang boat, but as it is my favorite game that I typically run daily I am starting to get rather heartbroken here...

And yes, all the usual suspects are checked off. Only drivers and PhysX. Prefer Maximum Performance selected. Changing in game graphics settings has no effect.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by dburne

[WheelwrightPL]

I hope you don't have one of apparently many broken cards: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-graphics-cards-dying/

[dburne]

22 minutes ago, WheelwrightPL said:

I hope you don't have one of apparently many broken cards: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-graphics-cards-dying/

 

I don't think so, as mentioned runs my other games great. Have also ran Precisions X1 OC Scan and it passed great with high boost numbers.

Runs Firestrike Benchmark just fine.

It is only IL-2 this is happening in.

 

Perhaps a Nvidia driver issue could be the problem? It did run fine at the very first - can't remember if I updated a driver since - but don't think I did.

 

Edit: Hmm, I got the card on the 9th and pretty sure I installed on the 10th. Looks like these drivers I have now were released on the 11th, so maybe I did update a driver since first getting it. Might be worth a clean install of previous driver version.. will have to think on that one ugh.

 

On second thought though, pretty sure I have been running IL-2 just fine since then, seems like this just started 2-3 days ago.

At a loss.

 

Edit: Also tested both windowed and full screen mode, same result.

Well crap, had hoped to spend most of the day flying PWCG campaign - not happening.

Edited October 30, 2018 by dburne

[Alonzo]

That's really weird. Does it get better if you change in-game settings, maybe to Low with all the eye candy off just to see? Is this VR or pancake? Do you still have your old GPU, that you could swap in and see if it has the same problem?

[dburne]

2 minutes ago, Alonzo said:

That's really weird. Does it get better if you change in-game settings, maybe to Low with all the eye candy off just to see? Is this VR or pancake? Do you still have your old GPU, that you could swap in and see if it has the same problem?

 

No, I had thought of that and tried changing settings. No difference at all.

I was wrong on date installed,  just installed it last Wed the 23rd, so have been running the same drivers since.

And it ran fine at first going back and reading my posts.

 

This is VR. Not wanting to change the card out  just yet, as it is just IL-2 and that has me puzzled. Everything else running splendid.

[Ehret]

41 minutes ago, dburne said:

And yes, all the usual suspects are checked off. Only drivers and PhysX. Prefer Maximum Performance selected. Changing in game graphics settings has no effect.

 

Probably, you did it but check the per program settings for "il-2.exe" in the control panel. I'd try to switch to/from full-screen mode, too.

[Guest deleted@134347]

are you running precision X for boosting it?  It seems the card doesn't auto-boost with il2 .. try running it in manual mode then...

 

https://forums.evga.com/Missing-ability-to-overclock-EVGA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-XC-ULTRA-GAMING-using-Precision-x1-m2860445.aspx

[dburne]

40 minutes ago, Ehret said:

 

Probably, you did it but check the per program settings for "il-2.exe" in the control panel. I'd try to switch to/from full-screen mode, too.

 

Yes, already checked thanks.

37 minutes ago, moosya said:

are you running precision X for boosting it?  It seems the card doesn't auto-boost with il2 .. try running it in manual mode then...

 

https://forums.evga.com/Missing-ability-to-overclock-EVGA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-XC-ULTRA-GAMING-using-Precision-x1-m2860445.aspx

 

No the card boosts on it's own, I use it mainly for setting a fan curve for temps. I am not yet overclocking the card any.

I have tested even without PX1 running, still the same. 1350 Mhz, which ironically is the same speed I get when at my desktop with VR running and no game running.

All other games boost and run beautifully around 1980 Mhz consistently. No temp issues on the card, runs nice and cool.

 

IL-2 whilst flying, the GPU clock continually fluctuates up and down repeatedly, between 1350-1600 Mhz. Only IL-2 is doing this so far.

Very strange. I have been running the latest Beta of Oculus Tray Tool to test, and have even uninstalled that to rule that out.

 

 

 

[Guest deleted@134347]

11 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Yes, already checked thanks.

 

No the card boosts on it's own, I use it mainly for setting a fan curve for temps. I am not yet overclocking the card any.

I have tested even without PX1 running, still the same. 1350 Mhz, which ironically is the same speed I get when at my desktop with VR running and no game running.

All other games boost and run beautifully around 1980 Mhz consistently. No temp issues on the card, runs nice and cool.

 

IL-2 whilst flying, the GPU clock continually fluctuates up and down repeatedly, between 1350-1600 Mhz. Only IL-2 is doing this so far.

Very strange. I have been running the latest Beta of Oculus Tray Tool to test, and have even uninstalled that to rule that out.

 

 

on my zotac 1080ti i had to manually crank up the mhz for it to autoboost with Il2, hence a suggestion. You don't need to oc much, just add 5-10mhz to cpu clock and same for memory, then increase the power to 110% or so and see if there's any difference.

[Thad]

Ah, the apparent joys of running things at the swords edge of graphic technology.  ?

[dburne]

9 minutes ago, moosya said:

 

on my zotac 1080ti i had to manually crank up the mhz for it to autoboost with Il2, hence a suggestion. You don't need to oc much, just add 5-10mhz to cpu clock and same for memory, then increase the power to 110% or so and see if there's any difference.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, did not have an effect.

This is so crazy, why in the world it worked at first and now all of a sudden it is doing this in IL-2. 

I think I have tried about everything but a complete clean install of IL-2 itself. Not sure I need to throw baby out with the bathwater just yet.

 

I must not be living right LOL. I had most of today set aside just for IL-2. 

 

[Seb71]

You wrote about GPU frequency and temperature. But not about the actual game performance (framerate).

 

Are there game performance issues? And if yes, have you also checked the CPU load?

[dburne]

3 minutes ago, Seb71 said:

You wrote about GPU frequency and temperature. But not about the actual game performance (framerate).

 

Are there game performance issues? And if yes, have you also checked the CPU load?

 

Yes very low fps and some stuttering.

No have not checked CPU load.

 

Edit: Well I do know CPU is running consistent 4.5 Ghz, I have checked that ( have displayed in my keyboard LCD).

Edited October 30, 2018 by dburne

[dburne]

Hmm the below was posted on the EVGA forum on my issue:

"This can happen when Game/app doesn't utilize GPU much, if in your game GPU utilization is at low 35-45% the boost clocks will not activate will stay in lower power state this is not a defect its by design. check your GPU utilization if its anything over 50%-99% and still stays at those lower clocks then something is wrong! "

 

I do know my GPU Utilization in IL-2 starts out around 39% and goes up to around 45% and a little higher at times.

This may be the culprit, though I would have sworn it ran a lot better the first couple of days after putting the new card in.

 

Anyway I am out of time, will resume testing tomorrow.

 

Think I am on to a fix for this, but will likely be tomorrow before I can try it - will update when I do.

Edited October 30, 2018 by dburne

[HunDread]

Did you manually update GPU driver when you installed the card? If not it is possible that windows did a driver update for you in the meantime. That would explain why it was working initially and then went bad.

 

I would definitely try with the previous driver you used for your previous card.

[Soarfeat]

1 hour ago, -[HRAF]Black_Sab said:

Did you manually update GPU driver when you installed the card? If not it is possible that windows did a driver update for you in the meantime. That would explain why it was working initially and then went bad.

 

I would definitely try with the previous driver you used for your previous card.

I agree with Black_Sab in that it possibly could be a driver problem maybe from a Win 10 update. I would recommend properly uninstalling the driver and reinstalling the driver and phys X only, I don't install anything else. You may do this when reinstalling by selecting custom install and selecting these items only. Also, I would click the tab for clean install to be sure to clear out anything that may be conflicting. You may also use a tool ( DDU --Display Driver Uninstaller ) to clean out all NVidia gpu driver (  DDU ).

I wish you the best with this , be patient ( it will get remedied in time )

cheers  -sf-

 

[dburne]

3 hours ago, -[HRAF]Black_Sab said:

Did you manually update GPU driver when you installed the card? If not it is possible that windows did a driver update for you in the meantime. That would explain why it was working initially and then went bad.

 

I would definitely try with the previous driver you used for your previous card.

 

Oh no,

I disconnected internet, did a complete uninstall with DDU in Safe Mode, booted up and did a complete fresh install of the Nvidia Drivers ( internet still disconnected ), rebooted again, and then connected internet. I did this when I put new card in, and did it again earlier today.

Same driver I was using with the 1080 Ti.

 

I feel pretty sure as posted above, it is likely the lower GPU usage causing the GPU to run in a lower power state. 

I expect my aging rig is having trouble feeding my new beast GPU. 

Will be interesting to see how it does once I get my complete new i9 system built here soon.

 

Thanks guys! 

I think at least I am going in the right direction now on getting this resolved.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2018 by dburne

[dburne]

Ok short update.

Looks like I have a fix for this with IL-2.  A way to lock my frequency to a set full boost speed with no fluctuation down.

Quick test and it appears to be working , but will have time for more in-depth testing with it in IL-2 tomorrow so want to be sure.

Looking promising though. Will advise after getting to spend more time with it tomorrow.

 

 

[dburne]

So anyway to recap the issue I am having - my new 2080 Ti runs in a lower power state, at least for some missions so far, in IL-2. This is only happening in IL-2 so far. And it may be just in certain missions, have not done a lot of different ones to see yet. 

Apparently this is by Nvidia's design, as GPU usage is low Nvidia Boost is not kicking in and the card enters a low power state. 

For whatever reason, at least on some recent missions, my GPU usage numbers are very low - like in the 30 percentile range.

I am only seeing this in IL-2. And the frequency numbers fluctuate a lot, like 1350 Mhz to 1600 Mhz back and forth.

 

Through the help of a guy way smarter than me over on EVGA forums, I discovered one can use a feature in MSI Afterburner to lock the frequency/voltage of the video card to a specific value. So I tried this, and have it locked at 2010 Mhz. No fluctuations. I flew briefly the same mission in IL-2, and the card stayed at 2010 Mhz.

GPU usage still remained very low though, but at least my card was running at full speed. Does not take but a minute to lock the card for flying IL-2, and no problem resetting it to default so no big deal in that regard.

 

Why did this start happening to me now in IL-2 with this new card?

The logical part of me says that my 5 year old rig is having trouble feeding this new 2080 Ti card, and the balance of flow just is not there. Things are a little out of kilter.

The smarter part of me says - my aging rig now knows I have already started ordering components for a new i9 rig, and so now it is going to make my life difficult for 

the remainder of the time it has.

I look forward to seeing how everything performs with IL-2 once new rig is built and everything is freshly installed.

 

If not for IL-2 being my favorite and most played game, I would not have worried about any of this as I am not seeing this occur otherwise. My GPU Usage numbers are much higher and boost kicks in and is consistent in other games.  But I gotta have my IL-2 daily fix.

Hope to get some quality time with it little later on in the day. Was supposed to yesterday but spent so much of it just troubleshooting.

It is odd though, with it only happening in IL-2. Could try a fresh install, but will be doing that in a month or so with new build anyway so will just wait.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2018 by dburne

[ZachariasX]

53 minutes ago, dburne said:

The smarter part of me says - my aging rig now knows I have already started ordering components for a new i9 rig, and so now it is going to make my life difficult for 

the remainder of the time it has.

As far as the platform is concerned, you are actually doing a downgrade from socket 2011 to 1151v2. You will get certainly 500 MHz higher clocks (10%) on the CPU, thise 5 GHz are the edge of what Intels current x86 CPUs allow. You cannot push any CPU farther than that without utterly impractical means.

 

Going from an i7-4770K @4.6 GHz to an i9-7900X @ 4.5 GHz (depens on additional CPU usage, up to 4.7 GHz) there is very little gain, sometimes even loss when looking at the top FPS. That the socket 2066 platform is vastly superior you can see (besides in using programs that scale well across cores) by the fact that no matter what your system is doing otherwise, the is never a single stutter during gameplay. With 4 cores on the other hand, you don't want Outlook open in the background. Anything "little data, lots to compute" will run like a charm on the 9900.

 

The benefit of much faster storage is irrelevant for BoX, so you will not feel the downgrade there.

 

Regarding the throttling of your GPU, I'm sure you checked the driver settings to "maximum power" in the NVIDIA control panel. Also you may want to check in the mobo BIOS if you have PCIe power saving settings enabled. Sometimes they can produce funny results. Also check tansfer speeds to your GPU. Is the slot still configured as PCIEx16? Sometimes when you plug in "unknown" cards (your GPU is very much newer than the mobo) they can revert sometimes to "safe" settings. IL2 is certainly less optimized than an off the shelf game engine. Those are rather agnostic for PCIE bandwith, as long as they can shove in all in the VRAM initially. The more dynamic the VRAM loads, the more sensible it becomes for bandwith issues. If your GPU is choked there, it will not clock high, what for? In this sense, I am not surprised that IL2 behaves different than most generic games.

[dburne]

I did confirm yes my PCIe slot is still running Gen 3.

No power savings enabled, everything on max performance.

 

Going to fly a few more missions in my campaign shortly and see how she does.

 

Thanks,

[ZachariasX]

It may be that some other program or task that gets spawned with you launching the game that is using the GPU with sort of "foreground priority". If that gets hold of your GPU while not using it fully, the GPU will not clock up.

 

You can see that effect for instance when you're Alt-Tab'ing out of the game and the game loses control of the GPU, you start to have a slideshow immediately as no desktop application will ever put significant load on the GPU. Yuu can see that when you have the taskmonitor open. CPU-whise, the game retains full ressources, the GPU howver clock down immediately chocking the FPS.

 

Try to lauch IL-2 directly without the launcher. Maybe use Procmon (or whatever you like, I mean, you know computers) to see whether you have a task spawning that keeps hold of the GPU when you are launching IL-2.

 

Edit: Nvidia shadow play capture has been known for instance to "catch" the GPU. Check those settings. It is an issue that exists for a long time now and something that happened to many of the NVIDIA cards, back to the 7xx series as far as I can see. Disabling shadow play helped in some cases, in other casres new drivers helped.

Edited October 31, 2018 by ZachariasX

[dburne]

Yeah not sure that would be it, all looks fine there. Only time I ever use the Launcher is when updating the game.

 

Flew 4 PWCG campaign missions so far this morning.

Performance was fine a very flyable.

Card is at low useage down low while taking off and low over landscape, oftentimes as climb it will go full bore and stay there - even with heavy clouds and lots of enemy ai furballing going on.

 

Really odd, but certainly has been very playable today. I have not used the frequency/voltage lock on the card today, just running at it's standard and letting it boost.

[ZachariasX]

I would expect that NVIDIA will be releasing newer BIOS for the GPU. I would check if there is a new version out. I'm sure also these 20xx cards mature at the client's. Truly bizarre.

[dburne]

5 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

I would expect that NVIDIA will be releasing newer BIOS for the GPU. I would check if there is a new version out. I'm sure also these 20xx cards mature at the client's. Truly bizarre.

 

Custom EVGA card, they just release new bios couple days ago. But yes Nvidia drivers will mature for these new 20x cards as time goes on I am sure.

Also keep in mind, only IL-2 I see this behavior in.

It has been very playable for me today so far, so I am happy. Was just perplexed as to why not boosting at times.

 

[ZachariasX]

1 minute ago, dburne said:

Also keep in mind, only IL-2 I see this behavior in. 

If it was indeed related to a specific service running that "grabs" the GPU, I wouldn't be too much surprised. Actually, I would expect it to appear in a specific context. Maybe the process tree would reveal something there. But just remote-guessing here.

 

That the game becomes playable doesn't nessesarily mean that the problem is gone at some point playing. As you have that much headroom with this card when playing on a monitor, still a crippled card can rum FPS to max your CPU.

[Alonzo]

8 hours ago, dburne said:

The smarter part of me says - my aging rig now knows I have already started ordering components for a new i9 rig, and so now it is going to make my life difficult for the remainder of the time it has.

 

I spat coffee over my keyboard reading this ?

 

7 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

As far as the platform is concerned, you are actually doing a downgrade from socket 2011 to 1151v2. You will get certainly 500 MHz higher clocks (10%) on the CPU, thise 5 GHz are the edge of what Intels current x86 CPUs allow. You cannot push any CPU farther than that without utterly impractical means.

 

He's going from a 4.5ghz mega-multicore chip to a 5+ghz 8C/16T chip which has been shown to OC into the 5.2ghz and beyond clock speeds. I think that's going to make a significant difference to IL2 in VR. In my testing every 100mhz makes a measurable difference, as does lower-latency RAM and ring ratio. Slapping a 360mm AIO on top of a 9900K is pretty doable and I think will be much more of an upgrade than dburne's 1080ti to 2080ti upgrade.  (Which, by the way, is a lovely GPU and I'm jealous!)

3 hours ago, dburne said:

It has been very playable for me today so far, so I am happy. Was just perplexed as to why not boosting at times.

 

One other thing to consider is increasing the supersampling (SteamVR or Oculus Tray Tool) into the 'silly' zone of like 200% or 1.5x PD. That ought to stress the card a bit more and require it to boost, while also looking gorgeous in-game. I'm running 1.2x PD (144%) on my 2080 and it sits at about 60% usage most of the time.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Alonzo
Formatting.

[dburne]

9 minutes ago, Alonzo said:

 

I spat coffee over my keyboard reading this ?

 

 

He's going from a 4.5ghz mega-multicore chip to a 5+ghz 8C/16T chip which has been shown to OC into the 5.2ghz and beyond clock speeds. I think that's going to make a significant difference to IL2 in VR. In my testing every 100mhz makes a measurable difference, as does lower-latency RAM and ring ratio. Slapping a 360mm AIO on top of a 9900K is pretty doable and I think will be much more of an upgrade than dburne's 1080ti to 2080ti upgrade.  (Which, by the way, is a lovely GPU and I'm jealous!)

 

LOL.

 

Yeah I am pretty confident in the new rig myself, really can't wait to get it together.

Just waiting on my 9900k pre-order to get here along with EVGA releasing that Z390 Dark. I am pretty pumped about it.

 

Patience is a virtue they say.

 

Edit: Btw card is doing pretty good today, with exception of down clocking taking off, landing and very low altitude, boost is kicking in nicely when needed and performance is very smooth in VR. Dang card barely breaks 60c so far whilst flying in IL-2.

Edited October 31, 2018 by dburne

[ZachariasX]

5 minutes ago, Alonzo said:

has been shown to OC into the 5.2ghz and beyond clock speeds.

Srsly? Where? How many cores?

 

For VR, sure, if you can hold 90 FPS instead of 79, that is gonna make abhuge difference. On a screen... not.

 

 

1 minute ago, dburne said:

Patience is a virtue they say.

At least it will make you do a clean reinstall of your rig. That might as well make your current predicament go away.

[Alonzo]

1 minute ago, ZachariasX said:

Srsly? Where? How many cores?

 

For VR, sure, if you can hold 90 FPS instead of 79, that is gonna make abhuge difference. On a screen... not.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3381-intel-i9-9900k-delid-liquid-metal-5-4ghz-overclock

 

(yes that's a delid, but given they hit 5.4 with a delid, you can probably do 5.2 without)

[dburne]

1 minute ago, ZachariasX said:

Srsly? Where? How many cores?

 

For VR, sure, if you can hold 90 FPS instead of 79, that is gonna make abhuge difference. On a screen... not.

 

 

 

Two cores boost to 5.1 I believe by default.

How well it can be overclocked will determine the rest.

Hope to find out soon.

[ZachariasX]

9 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Two cores boost to 5.1 I believe by default.

How well it can be overclocked will determine the rest.

Hope to find out soon.

Problem is it takes one task that the windows scheduler sends to a 3rd core *pooff* there drops your frequency. And Windows is great at spawning treads all over the place. I find it very hard to keep even 3 cores at max. frequency when running just one task but that at max clock. There‘s always some other tread and you get throttled a bit. No wonder nobody touches Windows in the HPC scene even with a stick.

 

[dburne]

Well I have flown either 6 or 7 PWCG missions today, and I must say I am pleased with today's results.

So I think all will be well. 

 

One thing I am liking is I am really able to crank those graphics up higher than previously, looking really nice.

 

Just checked my log in Precision X1, max temp on GPU today was 62c. Not bad.

Edited October 31, 2018 by dburne

[Soarfeat]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

Well I have flown either 6 or 7 PWCG missions today, and I must say I am pleased with today's results.

So I think all will be well. 

 

One thing I am liking is I am really able to crank those graphics up higher than previously, looking really nice.

 

Just checked my log in Precision X1, max temp on GPU today was 62c. Not bad.

 

Glad to hear it, good job dburne !!!

 

[Alonzo]

3 hours ago, dburne said:

Well I have flown either 6 or 7 PWCG missions today, and I must say I am pleased with today's results.

So I think all will be well. 

 

One thing I am liking is I am really able to crank those graphics up higher than previously, looking really nice.

 

Just checked my log in Precision X1, max temp on GPU today was 62c. Not bad.

 

Good news! Can I ask roughly the graphics settings you ended up on? I'm playing on High with Medium shadows, 4xAA, 1.2 pixel density, but I keep flirting with High shadows and it gets me into trouble near the ground or with a lot of action. (8086k @ 5.0ghz, RTX 2080)

[dburne]

So far:

Ultra Preset.

High Shadows

Draw distance 130 km think.

2x MSAA

1.5SS.

 

Will check more tomorrow - may try Ultra shadows and see what happens.

[TheSNAFU]

Hey dburne, glad to hear you are now getting increasingly good performance with that card. Enjoy!

 

2 hours ago, Alonzo said:

Good news! Can I ask roughly the graphics settings you ended up on? I'm playing on High with Medium shadows, 4xAA, 1.2 pixel density, but I keep flirting with High shadows and it gets me into trouble near the ground or with a lot of action. (8086k @ 5.0ghz, RTX 2080)

 

I have been thinking about upgrading my setup and have done a fair amount of reads and reviews of new hardware. What I am still not clear on is whether the current crop of CPU's, motherboards, memory + drives makes much difference in IL2 vs. my current stuff. Opinions vary. My old I7 is running problem free at 4.6 at nice low temps (for several years), memory at 1600 (OC'd) and a 1080 sc2 at stock speeds. The drive in a 6 year old hdd at 7200 rpm. Win 7. Running at 1080p, Ultra settings with some concessions like lower distance high shadows, medium mirrors.

 

Yet at low/low settings in PWCG I sometimes get micro stutters, stuttering and a general chugging  particularly in Kuban even though the game counter reports a rock solid 60 fps (locked w/vsync) When there isnt much happening on the ground, the game mostly runs near perfectly. I want to eliminate the issue but I'm not sure if a full upgrade is needed. I thought about installing a fast M2 SSD for boot and IL2 but it seems most say it just boots and loads faster and doesnt help performance. I have no current plans to play at higher than 1080p resolution. Tried all the regular stuff, ht off, current drivers etc. 

 

For me. nothing wrecks the allusion of a sim more than bad performance. Is this likely a hardware deficiency, if so what part would help most? Do I need a new cpu, memory drive setup to solve these issues? 

 

Opinions and advice welcome! 

Edited November 1, 2018 by TheSNAFU

[ZachariasX]

8 hours ago, TheSNAFU said:

For me. nothing wrecks the allusion of a sim more than bad performance. Is this likely a hardware deficiency, if so what part would help most? Do I need a new cpu, memory drive setup to solve these issues? 

Unless we have a totally new core design by Intel, thing will stay as they are. Over the last iterations, IPC gains per core have been almost neglectible. Whalt was improved was performance per Watt (at conservative clocks). But as far as gaming rigs are concerned, gains are minimal.

[dburne]

8 hours ago, TheSNAFU said:

Hey dburne, glad to hear you are now getting increasingly good performance with that card. Enjoy!

 

 

I have been thinking about upgrading my setup and have done a fair amount of reads and reviews of new hardware. What I am still not clear on is whether the current crop of CPU's, motherboards, memory + drives makes much difference in IL2 vs. my current stuff. Opinions vary. My old I7 is running problem free at 4.6 at nice low temps (for several years), memory at 1600 (OC'd) and a 1080 sc2 at stock speeds. The drive in a 6 year old hdd at 7200 rpm. Win 7. Running at 1080p, Ultra settings with some concessions like lower distance high shadows, medium mirrors.

 

Yet at low/low settings in PWCG I sometimes get micro stutters, stuttering and a general chugging  particularly in Kuban even though the game counter reports a rock solid 60 fps (locked w/vsync) When there isnt much happening on the ground, the game mostly runs near perfectly. I want to eliminate the issue but I'm not sure if a full upgrade is needed. I thought about installing a fast M2 SSD for boot and IL2 but it seems most say it just boots and loads faster and doesnt help performance. I have no current plans to play at higher than 1080p resolution. Tried all the regular stuff, ht off, current drivers etc. 

 

For me. nothing wrecks the allusion of a sim more than bad performance. Is this likely a hardware deficiency, if so what part would help most? Do I need a new cpu, memory drive setup to solve these issues? 

 

Opinions and advice welcome! 

 

You would see an improvement, whether that improvement would be worth the cost for you though would be hard to say and very subjective.

You certainly should be able to play the game stutter free. Your ram is pretty slow, so better-faster ram will also help you.

Yes SSD will mostly just help loading times. With an m.2 maybe gain an fps or two.

 

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11 hours ago, TheSNAFU said:

... The drive in a 6 year old hdd at 7200 rpm ...

... thought about installing a fast M2 SSD for boot and IL2 but it seems most say it just boots and loads faster and doesnt help performance ...

 

 

Step by step - and this will be by far the most important one. Due to my small-scale SSD I'm sometimes forced to move some games in Steam from the SSD to the old HD . And next to the can't-stand-the-HD-loading-times-no-longer-frustration there IS a performance difference, too!

 

(btw: don't like Steam that much, but this one-click-option "move your game to a repository of your choice" is a real advantage. Hopefully other game- and sim-companies feel the need to copy that feature!)