Identifying in VR

[Bisch]

Hey guys,

 

I'm an old on/off Simmer. Bought lots of BOX Modules but never really played it. Same with DCS but had some months with it. Now starting IL2 again and the problems from Il 1946 are still there for me: Detecting planes and Identifying them.

 

When I bought the Vive on day 1 I did stick to TIR because I couldnt read gauges in DCS and I would never see planes or ground targets. Now with the VivePro it looks like I made it at least over my personal line. The VR integration in IL2 seems to be even better and the gauges are really easy to read. However, seeing planes but more above all and my main issue is identifying a plane. At least friend or for. The planes are just a non sharp bulk of pixels. Only tracers help me a bit when fired. I could compensate with a better knowlewdge of he planes and their visual appearance but still I would struggle. Only when very very close and with a good angle on the target I can see the "straight german wings" and more elipsoid soviet ones.

Even on bypasses I dont even see the balkenkreuz or red star. It's more like seeing or getting an idea of a squared white area ad background for the cross.

 

So I end up diving on every plane. And even when seeing they are foes Im almost too late to shot (I know you should be close anyway). In head ons I end up being shot at but not returning fire if he decides to wait for the last split second. Can you help me?

 

I havent raised PD in SteamVR as 1.0 seems to be enough for VivePro and IL2. Another thing is I want to save performance. Because since opening IL2 this weekend I have a strange effect:

It looks like water in your diving maske where the prop is. Even quick movement in menus and opening closing maps gives me a gluey effect. I found some threads but nothing didi help. Reducing grafics seetings a lot, disabling head shake, disabling HUD didnt help. Looking ahead is even more difficult this way and also really straining and no fun to play.

I have a i7 4770 on 3,5GHZ, 16 GB  Ram and a Asus 1080ti OC.

 

Playing in VR opens a lot of Steam/SteamVR processes on my computer. Should I do sth about this?

[NiiranenVR]

Go after 3Dmigoto in mods ....then you can make 5-10 * zoom with keybinding - that Will be a big helper 

 

And for some ppl it takes time to learn ..... Gosh , I'll not tell you how many hours I have in the game - many times I'm been shot down , so I now flying like a Ghost ??

[Bisch]

Thank you Sire! I will try this!  Hope to learn a lot as well

[molotovb]

This thread is definitely worth a read, helped me a lot with spotting and VR setup.

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/28660-vr-tips-and-tricks-improving-your-vr-experience-updated-5thjun18/

 

[Bisch]

Looking really good 

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

For fighters, the best way to identify the difference at range is the looking at the profile -

 

Fat and chunky is Russian, thin is German. Works a treat.  Don't worry about looking for red stars or crosses - there usually isn't the pixels for it.

Ive been flying IL2 in VR with the original Vive since launch of VR support and the fat/skinny ID mechanism has worked for me (and also works for the guys using TIR too).

Rear aspect - look for radiator positions. 109s radiators in the wings are dead giveaways, as is the air intake being on the left.

 

The Migoto VR mod has helped too, but I use only 1.5 on top of the in-game 2x VR zoom.

Keep at it, and you will find your ability to ID improve massively over time.

[Bisch]

Wow, the prop glitch went away just by installing mod. I didnt even change reprejection in SteamVR and I didnt use the keybindings of the mod yet.

Now I have the chaperone visible although seated (my seated aera is outside chaperone zone but ususally this doesnt hurt.) I ll just deactivate chaperone completley when flying.

Can you bind the Zoom keys from the mod to the Warthog without using tools like joy2key or autohotkey?

[NiiranenVR]

Im maybe not the right to answer, but I have read before that thrustmaster and saitek software can make it  - but make it in the software 

 

I have the saitek , so can't tell u how 

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

The zoom keys remain on a keyboard button. Hence you must use a software to bind a device button to that keyboard button. 

[Bisch]

Yea. Guess it‘s time for autohotkey again