O_Smiladon Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 S! Guys, Some of you may remember me from old ROF days flying with the Oceanic guys. Lot of them have fallen of the way side now and just a few scatterd reamins. Just wondering if I should get this or just stick with ROF ? is there any real diff between the two ?? Slowly dusting of the equipment and getting back in the air S! to you all guys, Any recomendations greatly apreciated . O_Smiladon
DD_Arthur Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, OceanicO_Smiladon said: Lot of them have fallen of the way side now and just a few scatterd reamins. Just wondering if I should get this or just stick with ROF ? is there any real diff between the two ?? Hello Smiladon. I think you've answered your own question. RoF has been on the decline for some while now and quite a few squads have disbanded. Flying Circus can only get bigger. It has the advantage of being a part of something much bigger under vigorous, constant development. Pretty soon the Camel and Pfalz DIII will be released which will bring the planeset to four aircraft and a chance to give Flying Circus a proper work out. 1
Muff_Huggar Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 In addition, if you want to experience flying in VR, you'll have to jump to Flying Circus. I can't imagine doing a flying/driving sim on a flat screen anymore. VR has ruined me for the better, I think.
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 Flying Circus is the future and spiritual successor of Rise of Flight. It's going to grow and I think it will benefit greatly from being on the same technology as the IL-2 series and its Digital Warfare engine. The visuals are better, the flying (to me anyways) feels better, the map will very likely be up to the same standards that the 1CGS team has been pushing with the Kuban map for IL-2, and this series I think will grow out of the 10 aircraft of Vol 1 into quite the collection. It remains to be seen if Flying Circus has the chance to add more to the Rise of Flight experience. I'm hopeful we'll see Career mode (which evolved and grew under the IL-2 series), a return of the Channel map, and maybe some more and different content come later. I'm still holding out hope that we'll finally see a Zeppelin some day. 2
bzc3lk Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I have my Rof modded to the eyeballs and while it looks good, it doesn't compare to Flying Circus flying down low in and around the trees . My only concern at this stage is the way aircraft will show up against the clouds as per Bos with anti aliasing issues. Regards, Caldwell. 1 1
Zooropa_Fly Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 FC currently has 2 planes (strange choices), no map, and no MP pilots. I'm not convinced it's going to turn into the beautiful sim RoF is, nor be as popular as RoF was in it's prime. It's certainly not how I'd have launched a game. Hopefully I'm wrong and it'll be a runaway success, good to see an old pilot returning at any rate. I'm sure I've flown your Felix before ! S! 1 3
O_Smiladon Posted October 27, 2018 Author Posted October 27, 2018 Thanks Guys and G'Day to my old mate Caldwell.. bzc3lk O_Smiladon
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Zooropa_Fly said: FC currently has 2 planes (strange choices), no map, and no MP pilots. I'm not convinced it's going to turn into the beautiful sim RoF is, nor be as popular as RoF was in it's prime. It's certainly not how I'd have launched a game. Hopefully I'm wrong and it'll be a runaway success, good to see an old pilot returning at any rate. I'm sure I've flown your Felix before ! S! We're in the very early days of early access for Flying Circus. By mid next year we'll have a good sense of where Flying Circus is going to be but right now it's just getting started. If we judged IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad for what it was when the LaGG-3 and Bf109F-4 were the only two types in the sim... we'd be missing out on just how impressive it has grown since then. 7
BraveSirRobin Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Plank said: Leaving RoF to rot is BS. We coughed up, kept the flame burning and now we have to cough up again to get the work we should have gotten... Pardon me for being frank but I think that there are a few old cranky RoF farts who are a tiny bit pissed off. Salute! Plank. Great. Feel free to leave and find a different WW1 combat sim. 1 1
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Plank said: Leaving RoF to rot is BS. We coughed up, kept the flame burning and now we have to cough up again to get the work we should have gotten... Pardon me for being frank but I think that there are a few old cranky RoF farts who are a tiny bit pissed off. Salute! Plank. That does sound cranky. Rise of Flight was released in May of 2009. It's been kept alive largely as an active product for what...6 of those years. Then further supported to ensure that it continues to operate in the years since then. That's a long life span for a game. Surely, you've not been a Call of Duty/Madden/FIFA fan where you shell out every year for the next title. Rise of Flight by comparison has had an extremely long life (and it continues to live!) but at some point you have to drop the codebase you have and start with something fresher which is what Flying Circus is. 1 7
US63_SpadLivesMatter Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 You could just continue playing RoF. People still play 1946 (I was playing it the other day). 1 1
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Plank said: This sounds swell and all but, it has been taking in cash the WHOLE TIME. It still does now! But somewhere along the line the money went somewhere else. It did not go back into the game. RoF supported BoX ??????? and $105+ NZD for every new block of stuff for FC is outrageous. RoF was farmed for cash and now we have to buy it back again. Duh! Even changing the name is a kick in the teeth. Adding it to the Box hoopla is a slight., and RoF being left behind when it helped finance it's usurper is well I guess you can fill in the blank there yourself. I don't just flop onto the FC wagon because it's a thing. I waited for RoF to get better and nix. Call me sour but I am not super jazzed to part with $100 for the same game I already own. Salute! Plank. Usually companies that sell stuff tend to keep selling stuff. They then usually turn some of the profit that they make and invest it in something else that they can then sell you. Until we evolve into a post consumption society, that's pretty much the way of things. The money you paid to buy content for Rise of Flight was to enable and entitle you to gain access to those things they were selling you. To the best of my knowledge, that's still true today. If you're content with that content in Rise of Flight then great. I hope it continues to have a long life. If you want to see some major engine upgrades put to good use with features like VR, 4K textures, enhanced map technology, and so forth then Flying Circus is the place to be. 1
Guest deleted@83466 Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 He already knows all that Shamrock. He's just looking for something to grandstand about.
FurphyForum Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Hey Plank, when you own it, you can call it what you like. Money always talks and bullshiters, sooks and complainers will eventually walk. 1
Zooropa_Fly Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Regards pricing most of us don't get 'anything' anymore. We buy downloads, and as such the companies that produce games have no materials / manufacturing / distribution etc. etc. costs. I'm not sure this model strictly counts as consumerism, which I would assume traditionally includes the manufacture and movement of real goods. Just a side thought. S!
ShamrockOneFive Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Plank said: Do you have to quote my entire god damn post ??? Ditching the name really grinds my gears. but hey we can all pretend that FC is a new new game and was built from the ground up from scratch. but wait, in several years there will be a SALE !!! and 60% off.... Salute! Plank. Unless it calls for it, I prefer to quote the whole post when I reply to someone for contexts sake. Typically sales like 60% seem to happen about two years after release. But we've seen 25% sales go up only 6 months after (evidenced by the 25% sale on for Battle of Kuban that's ending today). 6 hours ago, SeaSerpent said: He already knows all that Shamrock. He's just looking for something to grandstand about. I was concerned about that but I thought I'd make an honest try. 1 hour ago, Zooropa_Fly said: Regards pricing most of us don't get 'anything' anymore. We buy downloads, and as such the companies that produce games have no materials / manufacturing / distribution etc. etc. costs. I'm not sure this model strictly counts as consumerism, which I would assume traditionally includes the manufacture and movement of real goods. Just a side thought. S! There are still costs associated but they are a little less obvious. Most game developers still maintain some sort of brick and mortar for their actual studio, they have their employees to pay, and there are things like software licenses and servers that cost money to operate (most of that is offloaded to a hosting company which would then charge a fee). For 1CGS it'd be servers for user accounts/licensing and some digital download setups to distribute patches and the whole game to a new customer. A company like 1CGS is going to have to be pretty lean to make it work financially in a niche market so what we're paying for is the hours spent creating the product. It's just as well that they don't have to fight for space on store shelves these days. So there are materials (the game code) / manufacturing (the developer time) / distribution (download servers and authentication servers) costs but they are all less tangible and entirely digital. 1
DD_Arthur Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Hello Plank! Whats the matter m8? You seem to have woken up with your backside in your hand. Reading between the lines, the main thrust of your post seems to be "I'm broke and I'm annoyed!". Cheer up, it's spring down your way, no? It's freakin' brass monkeys here.☹️ 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted October 29, 2018 1CGS Posted October 29, 2018 9 hours ago, Plank said: Do you have to quote my entire god damn post ??? Sure! 5 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said: Ditching the name really grinds my gears. but hey we can all pretend that FC is a new new game and was built from the ground up from scratch. but wait, in several years there will be a SALE !!! and 60% off.... Salute! Plank. FC is a new game, whether you like it or not. If the code wasn't so different, it would be just an updated version of ROF on the Digital Nature engine, but it's not. 2
DD_Arthur Posted October 29, 2018 Posted October 29, 2018 Lol How many volumes of Encyclopedia Britannica did you have to pad your arse with for this spanking Plank? 1
FurphyForum Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 Twice now in this thread and once in another. Continuing to complain in your.... eccentric manner about ROF and /or FC will just get you further offside with mods/ mbrs. Take a breathe, pause and step back. 1
J2_Trupobaw Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) OceanicO_Smiladon: Dust RoF off for Saturday / Sunday evening (Sunday/Monday mornings in your timezone) events that are still going on, and Friday morning fly-ins (being in NZ you should be able to enjoy them). Don't expect to see MP on weekdays. And, prepare to migrate to FC with your day-to-day flying :). [edited] Edited October 30, 2018 by SYN_Haashashin No personal stuff, please
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