Carrer mod, Where is the JU52, BF110 , He111 et the ships???

[MarcoPegase44]

Hello,

In the career mode I never meet some planes,JU52, He111, Bf 110, very rarely ju 88. and for the Russians the P40.

If on the German side I have smissions of interception of the German bombers but Russian side never interception of German bomber HE11 and ju88, nor any interception of transport ju 52 for the aerial bridges of Stalingrad and Taman.

Ships.

On the Volga for Stalingrad and Kuban, never protection or attack of ships. Yet ships exist in the game.

BOX has a lot of potential in a variety of situations, but it seems that they are not used in the career mode.

Is this a bug?

[Feathered_IV]

I've been wondering about this too.  I have never seen a Ju-52, even on the Stalingrad map.  Can anyone explain why this is?

[unreasonable]

Flying German on the Moscow map there are certainly P-40s to meet, but it will depend what German unit you use, since the enemy planes have bases just as you do so if you are not in their area you will not see them.   IIRC they started showing up when my unit was transferred to the furthest east German held airfield near Moscow.  I have escorted,109Es, He111, Ju88s and 110s while flying German -  but I do not recall seeing a Stuka in the air for some reason.

 

Attack/defend ships and escort/intercept air transport but they might only crop up at very limited periods in a campaign and the RNG might simply leave them out.  I expect they are in the planning pipeline. I have not made it to Stalingrad yet.... perhaps by the time I get there they will have made it into an update.

[MarcoPegase44]

Yes, I will continue to test the ju 52s with campaign campaign missions for Stalingrad and Kuban.

But that does not explain the absence of interceptions of bombs HE 111, ju 88 and not see Bf110 for Stalingrad.

There must be a problem setting the career MOd

The question remains for ships

 

 

 

 

[Cybermat47]

1 hour ago, unreasonable said:

but I do not recall seeing a Stuka in the air for some reason.

 

I have not made it to Stalingrad yet.... 

 

If the sources I’ve found are correct, the Stuka D-3 began production and/or frontline service in “late 1942”, so that’s why you aren’t seeing it over Moscow in 1941.

Edited September 27, 2018 by Pb_Cybermat47

[unreasonable]

Yes silly me, that must be the reason!  It just seemed obvious that a German ground attack on Moscow should have Stukas, but much in the world of BoX does not proceed according to the rules of obviousity. 

 

 

[LukeFF]

7 hours ago, MarcoPegase44 said:

But that does not explain the absence of interceptions of bombs HE 111, ju 88 and not see Bf110 for Stalingrad.

 

They're all there to intercept. Seen them plenty of times. 

[Feathered_IV]

The bomber intercept missions seem to be about 1 in 20 on the Moscow map, and as far as I recall never in my Stalingrad campaign yet.  This is a pity as they are the ones I look forward to most.  The Soviet campaigns seem to have the greatest emphasis placed on offensive missions.

[unreasonable]

On Moscow map as I/JG51 bomber and recce intercepts are rare in the early and mid period. Which I suppose is fair enough: the Germans are still advancing while the Soviets are hoarding reserves. Once you retreat from the forwards airfields they became much more frequent as the Soviets strike in depth in support of their offensive.  This all seems realistic to me: but it could just be luck of the RNG in my own sample.

 

Early Moscow Germans get a lot of intercept ground-attack missions: but if you are not the leader you hardly ever see them as your flight circles over one spot rather than cruising up and down the lines like a RoF defensive patrol, which I would find more convincing. Also you only circle for 5 to 10 minutes and then return to land with tanks more than half full: also rather implausible. 

 

There is still a lot that could be done in the mission generator to improve the Career even with the existing AI.

[MarcoPegase44]

Good evening,

For the 2 campaigns Stalingrad and Kuban.

When I play on the German side, not too much problem, I meet interception missions against PE2, A20, Il2. The only Russian device that I do not meet is the P40 but that does not seem to me significant given the few units that are equipped

On the other hand if I play Russian side, the only missions of interception of bombers and attack ground are against Stuka, FW190, HS129 and Bf 109 e7.

On the other hand no meeting against HE111, Ju 88 and Bf110, nor of Ju52.

The problem is for these planes especially when I play Russian side.

Same, no maritime mission against ships.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2018 by MarcoPegase44