Im hyped for the new planes, what's your favourite little design detail from one of the BoBP planes?

[KatieLuna]

Personally I like the fact that late war Spitfires had to have their wingtips reinforced, because at high speeds the deflection of the ailerons actually twisted the tips, causing the opposite effect (just like how a trim tab works).

[HagarTheHorrible]

I like the little details like the GREAT BIG F**K OFF TEMPEST with it's great BIG effin engine and because it's effin fast and it's got great BIG effin guns and it eats Luftwhinners (sour-krauts) for breakfast, even the ones that forget to bring their props with them.

[Ehret]

The P-38 Lighting (and the P-47 Thunderbolt should too) is a relatively silent plane due the muffling effect of superchargers.

 

The Merlin/V-1650 engine has integrated liquid inter/after-cooler. A feature not often seen in power-plants used in single engine fighters.

 

Tempest's engine - the Napier Sable used entirely different valve-train than usual poppets - sleeve valves.

 

The usable top RPM of Allison V-1710s is higher than the 3000rpm. It can be run around 3125rpm for extended time and that is reflected in the sim, too.

[Voidhunger]

My favorite little detail is MK108 , i cant wait to press the trigger for 4x30mm in Me262 and shred to pieces something.

 

And the second detail are the 8 guns of the thunderbolt.

 

Edited September 24, 2018 by Voidhunger

[HBPencil]

1 hour ago, HagarTheHorrible said:

I like the little details like the GREAT BIG F**K OFF TEMPEST with it's great BIG effin engine and because it's effin fast and it's got great BIG effin guns and it eats Luftwhinners (sour-krauts) for breakfast, even the ones that forget to bring their props with them.

This.
Like any other it has its pros and cons when compared to the other aircraft but regardless it's a beast, I loved it in the old game and I can't wait to tear s#!& up with it.
Also, I'm looking forward to seeing what MeoW.Scharfi does with it in a vid.

Edited September 23, 2018 by HBPencil

[CountZero]

4 x Hispano Mk.V with 200 rounds in each gun ?

[Jade_Monkey]

This big ass engine:

 

[novicebutdeadly]

6 hours ago, TheTacticalCat said:

Personally I like the fact that late war Spitfires had to have their wingtips reinforced, because at high speeds the deflection of the ailerons actually twisted the tips, causing the opposite effect (just like how a trim tab works).

 

Good old aileron reversal, hopefully it is modeled, from memory the IX does not have the reinforced wing ?

5 hours ago, HagarTheHorrible said:

I like the little details like the GREAT BIG F**K OFF TEMPEST with it's great BIG effin engine and because it's effin fast and it's got great BIG effin guns and it eats Luftwhinners (sour-krauts) for breakfast, even the ones that forget to bring their props with them.

 

To be honest I hated the engine noise of the Tempest ?

[=621=Samikatz]

I'm not sure if the J still had it but some versions of the P-38 had an electronic cocker for the 20mm, and could unjam itself at the press of a button

[CanadaOne]

I just like the way all the Germans planes go "Poof!" in technicolour when they get an IL2 cheese grater up their keester.

[[TWB]Sauerkraut-]

21 hours ago, TheTacticalCat said:

Personally I like the fact that late war Spitfires had to have their wingtips reinforced, because at high speeds the deflection of the ailerons actually twisted the tips, causing the opposite effect (just like how a trim tab works).

 

This actually affected the F-4 phantom, but in a different way. At a high angle of attack, using the ailerons and spoilers would cause so much adverse yaw that the aircraft would actually roll in the opposite direction. This put pilots in the awkward position of having to use only rudder to induce roll at high angle of attack.

Edited September 24, 2018 by itsthatguy

[Toothless]

3 hours ago, itsthatguy said:

 

This actually affected the F-4 phantom, but in a different way. At high an the angle of attack, using the ailerons and spoilers would cause so much adverse yaw that the aircraft would actually roll in the opposite direction. This put pilots in the awkward position of having to use only rudder to induce roll at high angle of attack.

Using rudder at high AoA is good practice in any aircraft as you risk stalling a section of the would be up going wing, making it the down going wing. 

 

Though that is an amusing quirk for the F4, if true.

[Bremspropeller]

4 hours ago, itsthatguy said:

At high an the angle of attack, using the ailerons and spoilers would cause so much adverse yaw that the aircraft would actually roll in the opposite direction. This put pilots in the awkward position of having to use only rudder to induce roll at high angle of attack.

 

It would just yaw in the opposite direction - hence the term "adverse yaw". That is caused by the aileron. If you were hamfisted enough, you'd get a nose-slice and a yaw-departure out of it.

Using coordinated rudder is a necessity in any airplane close to critical AoA. Spoilers do create proverse yaw.

 

I'm looking forward to ducking sheet up on the ground with all of the sweet Jaboness coming to town in BoBP.

Doesn't matter much which airplane - there's a little sometng to soften up a bunker/ tank/ train/ brigde/ road column/ airfield near you with any of those machines.

 

Bombenstimmung ftw.

 

[[TWB]Sauerkraut-]

Okay, In the interest of not derailing the topic with any more debate, I'm putting this one to bed.

 

The relevant section begins at 9:34

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, itsthatguy said:

... would cause so much adverse yaw that the aircraft would actually roll in the opposite direction. 

 

That’s like saying:

 

...would cause so much left turn, that it actually turned left.

[[TWB]Sauerkraut-]

12 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

That’s like saying:

 

...would cause so much left turn, that it actually turned left.

 

A "turn" is something that happens in 2 dimensions.

 

Roll and Yaw are 1 dimensional affairs. While both are aspects of a turn, you can roll an aircraft w/o any yaw (an aileron roll). You can also yaw an aircraft without any roll (a side slip).

 

Now it is important to realize here that I am NOT talking about the actual control inputs, rather the attitude of the aircraft. Of course if you want to perform a perfect aileron roll you have to employ rudder to maintain your heading throughout. Additionally, if you want to yaw an aircraft without any roll you  would have to use aileron in the opposite direction.

 

NEVERTHELESS, these are things that CAN be done. 

 

In normal flight, you want to keep your yaw at ZERO relative to your velocity. A "turn" is really just coordinated roll and pitch inputs. Therefore, rolling =/= turning, and yaw =/= turning. Also, rolling =/= yawing. Therefore, your comparison really doesn't make sense.

 

Have you watched the video I posted? I'm basically quoting USAF's training video. If you have a problem with it bring it up with them.

Edited September 24, 2018 by itsthatguy

[Gambit21]

Yeah - aware of what a turn is dude - that’s beside the point.

[Bremspropeller]

30 minutes ago, itsthatguy said:

Okay, In the interest of not derailing the topic with any more debate, I'm putting this one to bed.

 

The opposite roll is caused by dihedral effect due to the ensuing yaw-movement.

The way you initially worded it made it sound like you'd get classical aileron reversal.

[HagarTheHorrible]

18 hours ago, novicebutdeadly said:

 

To be honest I hated the engine noise of the Tempest ?

 

Are you serious ?

 

............and how, exactly, are you supposed to hear that over Queen playing at full blast, "Another one bites the dust" ?

 

Really, you need to get out more and explore your wild side.

[Bremspropeller]

Queen was all about Thunderbolts and Lightnings and stuff...

[LeeHarvey]

6 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

Queen was all about Thunderbolts and Lightnings and stuff...

 

 

And dynamite with a laser beam.

[novicebutdeadly]

44 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

Queen was all about Thunderbolts and Lightnings and stuff...

That sounds very very frightening!!!!!!!! 

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, novicebutdeadly said:

That sounds very very frightening!!!!!!!! 

 

Extraordinarily nice actually.

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

6 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Extraordinarily nice actually.

 

Guaranteed to blow your mind!

[Godspeed]

Im really want to fly P-38 i have CH Flight Yoke waiting for it.

[HagarTheHorrible]

Mamma Mia, mamma Mia !

[Cybermat47]

For the Germans, the way you can stop a Spitfire’s engine with a single Mk-108 round... on the wing. That’s 85g of explosives for you.

 

For the Commonwealth, finally having a Spitfire with .50 cals.

 

For the US, that noseart. And the 8 .50 cals to chew up 109s with.

Edited September 25, 2018 by Pb_Cybermat47

[Field-Ops]

The trim stabilizer on 190 and 109 variants changes the entire elevator control surface angle, and its present ingame (as with most small details)

 

Locking of the tail wheel on the 190's is done by pulling the stick back, genius idea. 

 

The gyro gunsights are all fascinating to me. Glad to see them ingame and I look forward to the EZ42 on the 190D

 

The turbo-supercharger on the P47, that thing is just insane. Looking forward to it in IL-2 

 

Not BOBP, but still: The P40 had to have manifold pressure constantly monitored by the pilot and I enjoy flying it for this reason. Just wish the P39 also had this learning curve and have the MP regulator as a modification. Perhaps if we get more advanced systems damage modeling we could see the MP regulator broken and having to monitor it afterward.

 

The fact that many different modifications are present on some aircraft that actually give us separate aircraft in a single package. If the devs can pull off more of that I imagine the community would be incredibly grateful, and they already are. I know I love my 190 A8/F8, just hope the drag from equipped rockets gets looked into.

[[PFR]Sarpalaxan]

14 hours ago, novicebutdeadly said:

That sounds very very frightening!!!!!!!! 

Sounds like only a Gauleon Gal a leo named Galileo could Figarout. Magnifigo!

[schurem]

I'm looking forward to buzzing my home town in a SPAD.

[Lensman]

The still to this day top-secret Foo-fighter detection light in the P-51.

[sevenless]

Big Ass Bird P47, the Pony comes second, can´t wait.

[Bremspropeller]

On 9/25/2018 at 10:03 AM, Field-Ops said:

Locking of the tail wheel on the 190's is done by pulling the stick back, genius idea. 

 

Doesn't the tailwheel-lock on the P-51 work kind of similar?

IIRC it was locked with neutral stick and unlocked with the stick pushed.

 

[LeLv76_Erkki]

P-51 fuel gauges' positioning over the shoulder and next to the seat like in P-40.

[GP*]

2 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

Doesn't the tailwheel-lock on the P-51 work kind of similar?

IIRC it was locked with neutral stick and unlocked with the stick pushed.

 

 

Something to that effect, yes. Very similar to the 190. I think it’s an outstanding system; in the 190, as the speed increases, you should be relaxing backstick pressure and even potentially flying the tail off. With either method, tail wheel lock isn’t needed because the rudder is increasingly effective. 

 

Sorry if someone alfeady answered this. 

[=FR=kgb613]

On the P-51 you need to put your stick neutral to lock the wheel, and put stick left if I remember well to reduce torque effect. I like the 190 way, because you need to block your stick back to lock tailwheel, no error, and around 120-150 KpH you push the stick and no worry of tailwheel.

 

On the P51, you must have a neutral stick, so you can easily make a mistake if you push stick left or right. It is just my think by the way ?

[Bremspropeller]

2 hours ago, FR=Rookie=kgb613 said:

On the P51, you must have a neutral stick, so you can easily make a mistake if you push stick left or right. It is just my think by the way ?

 

If the prop turns to your right (clockwise, looking forward), you counter with right rudder and right stick.

 

I think the P-51's solution is good, too.

The only "gotcha" could be using too much power to turn, unlocking the TW (by pushing the stick) and burying the prop into the ground.

But that probably requires some good deal of hamfisting.

[Ribbon]

That B25 cockpit that will become flyable one day!

Maybe devs should delay Me262, 109 K-4 and Dora in favor to start developing B25 flyable ???

[DEDMANcjp]

B58

[E4GLEyE]

On ‎9‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 12:49 PM, =621=Samikatz said:

I'm not sure if the J still had it but some versions of the P-38 had an electronic cocker for the 20mm, and could unjam itself at the press of a button

Only if guns would jam at times, the ones in RoF and FC do so, but never jammed a WW2 gun ingame other than it getting shot up, but nothing helps it at that point.