How could you be more pissed off [BUGs]

[Blackhawk_FR]

This is just the story of a guy who want to play IL2 BOS on a sunday afternoon. This is even more great as TAW is back. 

 

 

After a flight, he select a fighter to fly again. And then... the "start" button doesn't go green. Just impossible to respawn, whatever the airfield or aircraft selected. 

 

The only solution is to leave and reconnect, but the server is full... So we know what will happen next.

 

With no surprise, he just can't join the server anymore, as the process to connect on a server is completely random and fail almost all the time. If only there was a queue... if 5 players clicked join before you, you'll join the server when it's your turn. 

 

May be I'll come back soon with another storie like:

"Finally I managed to join the server. And I could select an airfield, an aircraft, and hit fly!! Wow, finally at the apron. Take off! After 10min, I manage to dive on an ennemy aircraft, he didn't saw me, it's going to be cool... FIRE!!..... what? wait? #&```# !!!! Here is the bug of guns that won't fire". 

 

 

That could be cool (and correct... as we spend a lot of money for that game) if all those bugs that waste your experience could be corrected. I'm looking foward for it way more than Me262 and P51D.

Edited September 16, 2018 by F/JG300_Faucon

[Feathered_IV]

TAW has a lot of settings, seemingly  designed to prevent players from getting off the ground.  Maybe it was one of theirs?

[Bilbo_Baggins]

They need to sort this out. It's been too long already to leave glaringly critical gameplay bugs like the 109 no ammo. You can't participate in the game without ammo.

[CountZero]

And yesterday on WoL when 3-4 players had that same bug with no ammo on 109s, some players were saying its only WoL bug not game bug, guess its game bug after all.

Just fly Red i say to them, no bugs on red airplanes  

 

Regarding that start bug problem had same on WoL and also full server and took me 25-30min after i exit to rejoin as its prime time, 83/84 click join wait for mission to load and then get kicked back and like that  for loon time, 84 ppl on servers its not even close enought for demand this game has in MP when its 20hcet no mather what day, 124 maybe 150 perfect

[LeLv76_Erkki]

The bug also appears on the 190

 

Once you've started the engine see the indicators above ammo counters. When you see the blue-black "radioactive" sign it means you have a chambered round and the guns will work. If the indicators are black then you have no ammo despite counters showing full. In Emil you need to test by shooting, but its not a big deal since you have 1000 rounds per gun.

[THERION]

6 minutes ago, LeLv76_Erkki said:

The bug also appears on the 190

 

Once you've started the engine see the indicators above ammo counters. When you see the blue-black "radioactive" sign it means you have a chambered round and the guns will work. If the indicators are black then you have no ammo despite counters showing full. In Emil you need to test by shooting, but its not a big deal since you have 1000 rounds per gun.

 

Just a stupid question: If you see that the counters are full, but the guns seems not loaded ("radioactive" sign) - did someone of you try to use the reload function?

[Cpt_Siddy]

The best bug is when people ram you head on and go on flying in to the sunset while you disintegrate in to thousand pieces. 

[LeLv76_Erkki]

1 minute ago, -IRRE-Therion said:

 

Just a stupid question: If you see that the counters are full, but the guns seems not loaded ("radioactive" sign) - did someone of you try to use the reload function?

 

I need to remember to try that when I encounter the bug next time. Does the reloading only work for guns that are actually reloadable from cockpit, or for all guns? I dont think I've ever used it when playing as a pilot.

[ITAF_Rani]

This bug made me angry also? several times when shooting at enemy plane

[THERION]

Just now, LeLv76_Erkki said:

 

I need to remember to try that when I encounter the bug next time. Does the reloading only work for guns that are actually reloadable from cockpit, or for all guns? I dont think I've ever used it when playing as a pilot.

 

This function works on all guns - I use it sometimes in cockpit and/or turrets. In fact, when I use the reload command, I can clearly see those "radioactive" signs move.

[marklar]

On 9/16/2018 at 2:28 PM, F/JG300_Faucon said:

After a flight, he select a fighter to fly again. And then... the "start" button doesn't go green. Just impossible to respawn, whatever the airfield or aircraft selected. 

The only solution is to leave and reconnect, but the server is full... So we know what will happen next.

 

Have not played BoX for months but the solution was to go to spectate mode, come back and START button should be active. 

[Blackhawk_FR]

1 hour ago, marklar said:

 

Have not played BoX for months but the solution was to go to spectate mode, come back and START button should be active. 

 

Thx but I tried, it didnt worked.

[CountZero]

alex have video of bug you describe

 

hes not as persistant as us he just give up after one fail rejoining try

Edited September 18, 2018 by 77.CountZero

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

What also annoys me is the power of the russian guns....literally 1 hit and wing/tail off or PK.

 

The 20mm cannons on the 109's need 3-5 hits minimum to even do some damage. Surely the german planes and guns were not that useless compared to the red stuff?

 

ANyways...last time we brought stuff up like this, they shut it down so I expect the same to happen here.

[Garven]

15 minutes ago, =EXPEND=DendroAspis said:

What also annoys me is the power of the russian guns....literally 1 hit and wing/tail off or PK.

 

The 20mm cannons on the 109's need 3-5 hits minimum to even do some damage. Surely the german planes and guns were not that useless compared to the red stuff?

 

ANyways...last time we brought stuff up like this, they shut it down so I expect the same to happen here.

Do you ever fly red?  Because when I fly blue I don't have trouble getting kills.

Edited September 19, 2018 by Garven_Dreis

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

I have flown red a lot.... the guns/bullets/lasers are lethal.

[LeLv76_Erkki]

42 minutes ago, =EXPEND=DendroAspis said:

What also annoys me is the power of the russian guns....literally 1 hit and wing/tail off or PK.

 

The 20mm cannons on the 109's need 3-5 hits minimum to even do some damage. Surely the german planes and guns were not that useless compared to the red stuff?

 

ANyways...last time we brought stuff up like this, they shut it down so I expect the same to happen here.

 

MG151/20 and ShVak are imho just as powerful in game. ShVak is probably slightly easier to hit with. But to add a useless anecdote, I was yesterday dewinged by Pe-2 rear(or side) gunner when I zoomed past it. My wings werent loaded either as diving straight I just let him sail into gunsight and into my burst. I sometimes feel all guns are a bit too powerful...

[SAS_Storebror]

All those "the grass is so much greener over there" stories...

Yesterday I've put some 100 rounds into an Mc.202 from within 50m distance.

I was on a Yak-7 and nailed him with my pair of UB guns and the single famous ShVak.

According to IL-2 Stats the damage level was below 10%, I've only managed to down him by PK.

Not that this came as a surprise to me, Macchis are tough.

Vice versa, I never managed to fly through the crosshairs of any 190 more than once. But that might be just me, maybe I forgot to take enough Stalinwood with me.

 

As much as the "sunday afternoon" story is concerned, my sympathy is limited.

Considering how many brilliant but virtually empty Servers are around, wasting half an hour in repetitive attempts to join that single full server on the list is like... masochism? probably... to me.

 

Mike

Edited September 19, 2018 by SAS_Storebror

[LeLv76_Erkki]

Many, me included, rather wait a bit to fly on a populated server rather than fly alone on an empty or near empty one.

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

42 minutes ago, SAS_Storebror said:

As much as the "sunday afternoon" story is concerned, my sympathy is limited.

Considering how many brilliant but virtually empty Servers are around, wasting half an hour in repetitive attempts to join that single full server on the list is like... masochism? probably... to me.

 

Mike

Whats the point of flying MP on your own?

[SAS_Storebror]

If no one joins a server first, how does it ever become populated?

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

OK - Ill be watching out for you sitting on your own in an empty MP server waiting for it to populate... good luck with that and let us know how it goes. 

[Mauf]

2 hours ago, =EXPEND=DendroAspis said:

What also annoys me is the power of the russian guns....literally 1 hit and wing/tail off or PK.

 

The 20mm cannons on the 109's need 3-5 hits minimum to even do some damage. Surely the german planes and guns were not that useless compared to the red stuff?

 

ANyways...last time we brought stuff up like this, they shut it down so I expect the same to happen here.

 

All planes in general are too susceptible to getting their wings shot off. Goes for both sides. We literally have a video on the page where a IL2 gets it's wing blown off by only 8mm machine gun fire from a 109.

 

My suspicion is that there's something wonky in how AP bullets interact with the damage model as german 20mm with it's HE focussed loadouts is less prone to do it, hence the impression that it's underpowered.

Edited September 19, 2018 by Mauf

[SAS_Storebror]

9 minutes ago, =EXPEND=DendroAspis said:

OK - Ill be watching out for you sitting on your own in an empty MP server waiting for it to populate... good luck with that and let us know how it goes. 

 

I'm doing that almost every day with great success.

Aside from that, isn't it a matter of reason that someone has to be the first to populate a server?

Or how, in your world, does the player count go from 0 to 1?

 

Mike

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

When you join an empty MP server the count goes to 1 and then............ how many join your majestical efforts? 

 

Oh hell, I don't think I must get sucked into this conversation, its just a bit stupid if you don't mind me saying so. Maybe lay off the beers a bit Mike.

[SAS_Storebror]

Besides the fact that my experience is that every 2nd time random players join our server once there's someone flying there, don't you agree that this pair...

• Complaining about the inability to join the single saturated server on the list
• Denial of populating other servers, because it's always "others" who have to fill it first

...is like a self-fulfilling prophecy?

100 players saying "I'd love to play elsewhere, but the other 99 have to do so first"?

It's as if the "Fast Lane" on the Airport has 10.000 waiting people, and no one wants to switch to the standard ones.

 

Coffee for me by the way, I'm not into beer. And let's be friends.

 

Mike

Edited September 19, 2018 by SAS_Storebror

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

10 minutes ago, SAS_Storebror said:

Coffee for me by the way, I'm not into beer. And let's be friends.

 

Mike

Gotcha....peace.

[Garven]

6 hours ago, =EXPEND=DendroAspis said:

I have flown red a lot.... the guns/bullets/lasers are lethal.

WoL stats say otherwise.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

Another bug is that every time in MP when you press Start and plane spawns you hear guns firing. Another one is fluctuating sounds when firing on ground targets. Sometimes engine sounds fade away and come back after ammo has hit target etc. 

[KoN_]

These Bugs have been here since the last big patch ,nothing to do with servers its the Game . !

Gun bug . Servers

Greyed out start . Servers

Wings off . damge modeling ??

Invisable aircraft . Clouds

Poping into veiw out of view 10km distance .

Poor spotting high or low. invisible

 

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Greyed out start button is like 2 years old not since last patch.
Just like gunner audio bug (game breaking)
still even get spectate bug

 

Edited September 24, 2018 by =TBAS=Sshadow14

[JG300_Egon]

And the issue of downloading the missions files before being kicked off from server queue...

 

I remember the devs solved it once, but it came back to life the patch after.... ?

[453=Kinninmont]

This is the story of 2 friends on a Tuesday afternoon. They both love flight sims. One of them was a squad leader in IL2 1946. One of them owned most of the IL2 titles. Actually all of them except for Battle of Moscow.

 

Right now they are both pissed off. They don't care about new (*&Y(*& planes or upcoming stuff. They are NOT going to be purchasing any more products as the money they have spent on Battle of Stalingrad and its expansions have been wasted.

 

This game's bugs are a deal breaker. For some ppl to get it running flawlessly is just unbelievable. We cannot join servers. I bought the game to play online. We cant play online. To see posts from developers saying there is new content coming up just infuriates me. These 2 friends don't care about any new products. They want the product they paid for to work.

 

The developers should do this:

 

1. Fix current game to acceptable standard esp. connectivity to servers and these millions of bugs [Why can other flight games like war thunder work flawlessly without a single crash? And War thunder is basically a child's arcade FM compared to IL2].

 

2.Do extensive testing before releasing a new patch. A patch should be an improvement on the last patch. If it is not, then it should not be released. This is 101 Software Engineering.

 

I am sorry to say this but this is not good guys. I got my friend to buy this game so we could play together. Now its just not working and ppl are posting the exact reasons why it wont work for them which it is for us. To say its not the game is a joke. Every other game works fine for my pc. Me and my freind have IT technical skills and its NOT our computers. It's the game.

 

If you guys can read basic english [Devs], please address these issues or I am afraid your games won't be selling much of anything. These problems have been started with IL2 Cliffs of Dover and now have gone into BoS. This is not acceptable from a business stand point. I am sorry if this sounds harsh, but it quite simply is the truth.

 

 

[unreasonable]

On 9/19/2018 at 4:52 PM, SAS_Storebror said:

 

I'm doing that almost every day with great success.

Aside from that, isn't it a matter of reason that someone has to be the first to populate a server?

Or how, in your world, does the player count go from 0 to 1?

 

Mike

 

Perhaps you need an AI player emulator that lurks in your server software, then joins the server like a human and so is then counted as a player in the listing.

Add in some random chat nonsense and who would know?  

[SAS_Storebror]

It rather needs one Lemming to step out of the queue, that's all.

 

Mike

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

On 9/19/2018 at 10:21 PM, Garven_Dreis said:

WoL stats say otherwise.

 

Berloga stats say....   Oh wait. 

 

I like to point out stats as much as the next guy but Berloga is a great location to fur ball it up quickly to find out what works on both sides in MP that does not involve/require opponents flying conservatively.

[BraveSirRobin]

On 9/25/2018 at 12:33 AM, Kinninmont said:

Me and my freind have IT technical skills and its NOT our computers. It's the game.

 

 

There are plenty of people, myself included, who have no significant problems with the game and are playing online every night.  So you’re going to have to be a lot more specific about the problems that you’re having than “just fix the game”, because the game ain’t broke for me.  

 

For instance, you say that you can’t play online.  Maybe you could provide the error message that you get when you try to go online.  Or some other details to help figure out the problem.  You know, the sort of stuff that someone with “IT skills” would recognize as helpful.