About to get myself a new monster rig for Solitaire, Minesweeper and... flightsimming

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

8 hours ago, Dakpilot said:

I doubt at the same noise levels..

The H100i is louder than the air cooler. 

 

 

[F/JG300_Gruber]

On 9/22/2018 at 8:34 AM, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

Keep in mind that a relatively modest air cooler performs just as well as the H100i v2. 

 

My Girlfriend's H100i v2 is noticeably quieter than my own Noctua air cooler especially at high fan speeds. She also gets better temperatures across the board despite her CPU being slightly OC, and mine isn't.

 

Edited September 24, 2018 by F/JG300_Gruber

[Freycinet]

Article on the RTX cards for VR gaming:

https://uploadvr.com/rtx-2080-performance-benchmark/

 

Seems that they'll be worth it since I intend to buy a next gen VR headset...

[chiliwili69]

9 hours ago, Freycinet said:

Seems that they'll be worth it since I intend to buy a next gen VR headset...

 

The only "next gen" VR device on the table is Pimax 5K+.  I don´t consider Pimax8K since it is fiasco, the panels are not 4K but 3840x1080.

The Pimax 5K+ could be available at the mass market not earlier than Q2-2019. For that device a 1080Ti is enough.

 

So, don´t base your GPU buy on VR devices which still does not exist. In just half a year many thing can change. The GPU is something you can always easily upgrade and sell the old.

[JonRedcorn]

11 hours ago, Freycinet said:

Article on the RTX cards for VR gaming:

https://uploadvr.com/rtx-2080-performance-benchmark/

 

Seems that they'll be worth it since I intend to buy a next gen VR headset...

So they didn't test a single actual game with the new cards? They just ran some crappy benchmarks from steam? The 2080 and 1080ti should be nearly dead even.

[dburne]

2 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

The only "next gen" VR device on the table is Pimax 5K+.  I don´t consider Pimax8K since it is fiasco, the panels are not 4K but 3840x1080.

The Pimax 5K+ could be available at the mass market not earlier than Q2-2019. For that device a 1080Ti is enough.

 

So, don´t base your GPU buy on VR devices which still does not exist. In just half a year many thing can change. The GPU is something you can always easily upgrade and sell the old.

 

I would be surprised if a 1080 Ti is enough for that Pimax 5K+ in combat flight sims.

Certainly it will run it but maybe not at the performance one would hope.

 

 

[Freycinet]

On 9/25/2018 at 10:38 PM, chiliwili69 said:

 

The only "next gen" VR device on the table is Pimax 5K+.  I don´t consider Pimax8K since it is fiasco, the panels are not 4K but 3840x1080.

The Pimax 5K+ could be available at the mass market not earlier than Q2-2019. For that device a 1080Ti is enough.

 

So, don´t base your GPU buy on VR devices which still does not exist. In just half a year many thing can change. The GPU is something you can always easily upgrade and sell the old.

 

I am not interested in buying a graphics card now and then having to buy a new one within the next year, and trying to sell the old card.

 

My present desktop computer has conked out totally, so I will be buying soon.

[Freycinet]

OK guys, I went and put together an offer with a salesman at Alternate.be here in Belgium today. Tell me what you think!

 

Are the components mismatched or do they look good to you? 

 

The prices in euros are listed below each item. Most of the links have a description in EN, some in NL...

 

MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti DUKE OC graphics card (HDMI, 3x DisplayPort, USB-C, SLI)

https://www.alternate.be/MSI/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-DUKE-OC-grafische-kaart/html/product/1477004

1349,00   ...Wowsers... Quite pricey!

 

Intel® Core ® ™ i7-8700K Processor (12M Cache, up to 4.70 GHz) 3.7GHz 12MB Smart Cache Box

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Intel/Core---i7-8700K-Processor-(12M-Cache-up-to-4-70-GHz)-3-7GHz-12MB-Smart-Cache-Box/html/product/1380849

549,00

 

ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-H GAMING Intel® Z370 LGA 1151 (Socket H4) ATX, Mainboard

https://www.alternate.co.uk/ASUS/ROG-STRIX-Z370-H-GAMING-Intel-Z370-LGA-1151-(Socket-H4)-ATX-Mainboard/html/product/1384619

207,90

 

Corsair DIMM 16GB DDR4-2666 Kit, RAM

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Corsair/DIMM-16GB-DDR4-2666-Kit-RAM/html/product/1216665

144,90

 

Samsung MZ-V7E1T0 1000GB M.2 PCI Express 3.0, Solid State Drive

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Samsung/MZ-V7E1T0-1000GB-M-2-PCI-Express-3-0-Solid-State-Drive/html/product/1449411

299,00

 

WD Gold HDD 8000GB Serial ATA III internal hard drive (3.5", 8000 GB, 7200 RPM, Serial ATA III, 256 MB, HDD)

https://www.alternate.co.uk/WD/Gold-HDD-8000GB-Serial-ATA-III-internal-hard-drive/html/product/1388066

344,00

 

Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum 850W, 850 Watt power supply (Black, 6x PCIe, Full Kabelmanagement)

https://www.alternate.be/Seasonic/Focus-Plus-Platinum-850W-850-Watt-voeding/html/product/1364002

149,90

 

Corsair H100i PRO Processor liquid cooling, Water cooling system(Processor, 37 dB, 2 fan(s), 400 RPM, 2400 RPM, 75 cfm)

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Corsair/H100i-PRO-Processor-liquid-cooling-Water-cooling-system/html/product/1445057

114,90

 

Phanteks Enthoo Primo SE tower

https://www.alternate.be/Phanteks/Enthoo-Primo-SE-tower-behuizing/html/product/1441751

249,90

 

Microsoft Windows 10 software(English, incl. Creators update)

https://www.alternate.be/Microsoft/Windows-10-software/html/product/1382578

139,90

 

The next two items are, in total, 5 bays for putting in hotswappable harddisks, directly connected to the motherboard via SATA. According to the seller the MoBo should be able to take the two internal haddisks as well as 5 hotswappable ones.

 

SilverStone FS303 Black disk array, Drive caddy(black, HDD, SSD, Serial ATA, 3.5", 6 Gbit/s, Black, 1 fan(s))

https://www.alternate.co.uk/SilverStone/FS303-Black-disk-array-Drive-caddy/html/product/1311644

78,90

 

Icy Dock MB171SP-B 3.5" Black storage drive enclosure, Drive caddy(black, 3.5", Serial ATA, Serial ATA II, Serial ATA III, 4 TB, Black, Power, Metal)

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Icy-Dock/MB171SP-B-3-5-Zoll-Black-storage-drive-enclosure-Drive-caddy/html/product/1131170

79,98 for two of them

 

Assembly cost

49,99

 

Net price: 3.339,31 EUR

VAT: 21% of 3.339,31 EUR = 701,26 EUR

 

Total price 4.040,57 EUR       There go the savings accounts of my children....

 

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I am also looking at buying a monitor. This one was recommended at the shop... It has got V-sync and the panel technology is VA, which supposedly is as good as ISP...?    I worry a bit about the curved screen. Won´t that be bad for reflexes?

 

Acer Predator Z35P, LED monitor (black/red, HDMI, DisplayPort, 3x USB, speakers)

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Acer/Predator-Z35P-LED-monitor/html/product/1340281

 

Net price: 784,30 EUR
VAT: 21% of 784,30 EUR = 164,70

 

Total price 949,00 EUR

 

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All comments more than welcome!

 

 

 

[dburne]

Looks pretty sweet to me!

 

[F/JG300_Gruber]

I wouldn't go cheap with RAM, get straight up to a 2x16Gb kit. 

You have 140€ for RAM and 250€ for the tower. It should be the other way round.

 

Other than that, it looks like a sweet rig !

 

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

10 hours ago, Freycinet said:

Corsair DIMM 16GB DDR4-2666 Kit, RAM

https://www.alternate.co.uk/Corsair/DIMM-16GB-DDR4-2666-Kit-RAM/html/product/1216665

144,90

The memory size isn't a problem; 16 GB is more than adequate for Il-2.

 

However, 2666 MHz with CL16 18-18-35 timings is quite slow. It doesn't make a large difference, but if you're looking for the best frame rates in Il-2 and other CPU-bound games, it is desirable to have something like 3200 MHz with CL15 or lower.

 

Low-budget RAM in a 4000 EUR rig makes little sense. If you must keep the costs down, cut the case, storage, or accessories to get better memory. As usual, the proof is buried somewhere here.

Edited September 30, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[15[Span.]/JG51Navarro]

On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 3:22 AM, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

ASUS z390 Maximus or z370 Maximus code/hero

 

Let me ask you two questions:

 

1. Will a Z370 MB work fine with a 9th gen. CPU? I like the ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE / FORMULA

2. Will a Z390 MB work fine with a 8th gen. CPU as the i7 8086K?

 

I like the following Z390 MBs:

 

Gigabyte AORUS Master

ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO WIFI

msi MEG Z390 ACE

ASRock Z390 / TAICHI / TAICHI ULTIMATE / PHANTOM 9 

 

Any comments and recommendations will be appreciated!

Edited October 17, 2018 by 15[Span.]/JG51Navarro

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

2 hours ago, 15[Span.]/JG51Navarro said:

1. Will a Z370 MB work fine with a 9th gen. CPU? I like the ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE / FORMULA

Yes, you’ll just need to use an updated BIOS.

 

2 hours ago, 15[Span.]/JG51Navarro said:

2. Will a Z390 MB work fine with a 8th gen. CPU as the i7 8086K?

Yes.

 

I’d recommend parts from the latest generation unless the price difference is large, even if it’s only for peace of mind.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[15[Span.]/JG51Navarro]

9 hours ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said:

Yes, you’ll just need to use an updated BIOS.

 

Yes.

 

I’d recommend parts from the latest generation unless the price difference is large, even if it’s only for peace of mind.

 

Thank you for your prompt answer!

 

That's a big help!

Edited October 17, 2018 by 15[Span.]/JG51Navarro