Four Fw190 kills with the A-20B on Wings of Liberty

[Talon_]

A-20 best fighter

 

https://streamable.com/yw93w

 

https://streamable.com/xxf0t

 

https://streamable.com/m3v6x

 

https://streamable.com/nijbg

[Diggun]

Nice flying! Think some of those manoeuvres invalidate your manufacturers warranty though 

[MK_RED13]

VVS arcade mode.. muhehehehe.. very nice presentation ? 

[E69_geramos109]

Xd

[Talon_]

On 8/23/2018 at 5:49 PM, MK_RED13 said:

VVS arcade mode.. muhehehehe.. very nice presentation ? 

 

You just have to know how to overcharge the engines to make 60" Hg of manifold pressure (2200ps) instead of the default 43" Hg (1600ps) using the manual engine controls. Not the kind of thing you can do with a Kommandogerät

Edited September 3, 2018 by Talon_

[Cybermat47]

Hold on, are you the guy who appears at 3:30 in this video of mine?

 

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Hehe

10:34

"Acrobatics are forbidden"

 

Edited September 3, 2018 by 307_Tomcat

[Blackhawk_FR]

Fordibben doesn't mean impossible ?

[HandyNasty]

1 hour ago, Talon_ said:

You just have to know how to overcharge the engines to make 60" Hg of manifold pressure (2200ps) instead of the default 43" Hg (1600ps) using the manual engine controls. Not the kind of thing you can do with a Kommandogerät

How do you get to 60 inches on the A-20??? Genuinely curious.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Cleopatra is hot Quin

[Talon_]

1 hour ago, =FSB=HandyNasty said:

How do you get to 60 inches on the A-20??? Genuinely curious.

 

Have a word with your crew chief ?

2 hours ago, PB_Cybermat47 said:

Hold on, are you the guy who appears at 3:30 in this video of mine?

 

 

 

Oh yeah would you look at that

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

About the “bump”.  I think the Germans called it a “buboil.  Could be wrong.

 

I wonder what would happen if the A-20 tried to follow the 190 through a loop?  Heavy plane like that might lose speed pretty fast, stall, and then it’s all over for him.  Haven’t flown the A-20, so I don’t know the answer.

[Garven]

3 hours ago, =FSB=HandyNasty said:

How do you get to 60 inches on the A-20??? Genuinely curious.

By throwing the flight manual out the window.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Garven_Dreis

[Talon_]

21 minutes ago, SLAG said:

About the “bump”.  I think the Germans called it a “buboil.  Could be wrong.

 

I wonder what would happen if the A-20 tried to follow the 190 through a loop?  Heavy plane like that might lose speed pretty fast, stall, and then it’s all over for him.  Haven’t flown the A-20, so I don’t know the answer.

 

Check this one out - it loops with and catches a 109

 

https://streamable.com/g2j0z

[Ehret]

34 minutes ago, SLAG said:

I wonder what would happen if the A-20 tried to follow the 190 through a loop?  Heavy plane like that might lose speed pretty fast, stall, and then it’s all over for him.  Haven’t flown the A-20, so I don’t know the answer.

 

No, the inertia works both ways - heavier stuff accelerates slower but the deceleration will be slower, too.

[Barnacles]

4 hours ago, =FSB=HandyNasty said:

How do you get to 60 inches on the A-20??? Genuinely curious.

Supercharger stage 2. There's no manifold pressure regulator on the A20

[Blackhawk_FR]

1 hour ago, Talon_ said:

 

Check this one out - it loops with and catches a 109

 

https://streamable.com/g2j0z

 

 

No. If you're talking about your maneuver at 1:15, you start climbing when the 109 (already damaged btw) is at the top of his vertical maneuver. So it's normal to close the gap even with a heavy aircraft like A20. You absolutely don't "loop with" the 109 and catch him. If you are talking about your teammate, he came on him from behind, probably with more energy, with lead pursuit. So it's also normal that he's closing the gap, especially as the 109 waste his energy to follow you.

 

Remember that 109 beat anything in climbing.

Edited September 3, 2018 by F/JG300_Faucon

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

1 hour ago, Ehret said:

 

No, the inertia works both ways - heavier stuff accelerates slower but the deceleration will be slower, too.

The A-20 was not following the 109 in a loop.   I never said it could not loop.  Is the A-20 as fast as the 109 or 190?  From level flight, would the A-20 out climb them?  Is the A-20 stall speed the same or lower then those two?  With these in mind, the A-20 would stall first in a loop, and be dead meat.

[Talon_]

1 hour ago, SLAG said:

Is the A-20 as fast as the 109 or 190?

 

On the deck it can do 573kmh on 60", about as fast as a G-14 on 1.7ata (10min) or a Fw190A-5 on 1.42 ata (3min).

 

Of course you can find the A-20 in missions alongside F-4s and it's much faster than those ?

 

Edit: peak climbrate is 25m/s

Edited September 3, 2018 by Talon_

[Ehret]

1 hour ago, SLAG said:

The A-20 was not following the 109 in a loop.   I never said it could not loop.  Is the A-20 as fast as the 109 or 190?  From level flight, would the A-20 out climb them?  Is the A-20 stall speed the same or lower then those two?  With these in mind, the A-20 would stall first in a loop, and be dead meat.

 

On autumn maps I managed 540km/h for few moments in the A-20.

(no load, no pylons, full throttle and rpm, 1st gear, mix 66% and closed cowls)

The 2nd super-charger gear trick adds another 20km/h on the deck...

 

I had found that survival ratio in the shallow dive type escape is pretty good.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Ehret

[Talon_]

The additional climbrate is the most important aspect of 60", allowing you to climb with a 109 for long enough to kill him.

 

I turned with a G-4 for over four minutes in this clip, he never hit me once.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2018 by Talon_

[Ehret]

5 minutes ago, Talon_ said:

On the deck it can do 573kmh on 60", about as fast as a G-14 on 1.7ata (10min) or a Fw190A-5 on 1.42 ata (3min).

 

570km/h in itself isn't that special... The P-39 can do it too but not for 10m. 

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

1 hour ago, Talon_ said:

The additional climbrate is the most important aspect of 60", allowing you to climb with a 109 for long enough to kill him.

 

I turned with a G-4 for over four minutes in this clip, he never hit me once.

 

 

You are right, he didn’t hit you once, but his buddy sure did.  Maybe Boom and Zoom is the way to handle the A-20.  All of these vids are turning fights.

Edited September 3, 2018 by SLAG

[Talon_]

4 minutes ago, SLAG said:

You are right, he didn’t hit you once, but his buddy sure did.  Maybe Boom and Zoom is the way to handle the A-20.  All of these vids are turning fights.

 

Sadly we don't have the A-20 with 8 .50cals or he'd have been dead and I'd have been gone within the first minute

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

Maybe you have seen this.  But, Google A-20 crash, and then images. There are four amazing shots of an A-20.