How does your squadron operate

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

I’m curious about how sim squadrons operate.  Specifically, does your squadron concentrate on 1-2 planes, or does the squadron fly everything and anything, as a squadron?  If you fly everything, is this the way the squadron was originally conceived?

Thanks

[Talon_]

I have a fighter squadron, but if we need to take bombers to win the mission we'll do that too. Also our love affairs are mainly with ETO aircraft which helps ease the burden a bit for now.

Edited August 22, 2018 by Talon_

[Ribbon]

Even we are allied squadron most of the time we fly both bombers and fighters, red and blue and what ever is needed to accomplish mission/objective.

Why limit yourself to 1 or 2 planes or just one side!

[PatrickAWlson]

4 minutes ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

Why limit yourself to 1 or 2 planes or just one side!

 

My excuse is incompetence.

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

19 hours ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

Even we are allied squadron most of the time we fly both bombers and fighters, red and blue and what ever is needed to accomplish mission/objective.

Why limit yourself to 1 or 2 planes or just one side!

My idea is to be good as I can be in 1-3 planes, rather than a jack of all trades, master of none.  Also, in RL, they didn’t fly a different type each day.  A squadron was all one type.  The rule is to be a member of only one squadron at a time.  Maybe that should be amended to only one squadron per flight sim.  Comments?

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

We fly with 1 or 2 Schwarms of up to 4 pilots each, usually sticking to the same type per Schwarm. Both units take different roles but help each other.

 

Hence Adler may be in Me109, while Blitzer flies 110 with bombs. Often two Schwarms fly the same aircrafts as well, for example JaBo missions with 190. Or the old 8 people StuKa Conga-Line, fantastic! ??

[Ribbon]

42 minutes ago, 71st_AH_VinnieJones said:

My idea is to be good as I can be in 1-3 planes, rather than a jack of all trades, master of none.  Also, in RL, they didn’t fly a different type each day.  A squadron was all one type.  The rule is to be a member of only one squadron at a time.  Maybe that should be amended to only one squadron per flight sim.  Comments?

except this is a game, i consider myself really good yak, spit, 109 and 190 pilot with very good dogfight stats, shooting down so called masters that fly only one type!

If you're a good pilot you'll be good in most of the planes, just using it's advantages and smart tactics.

Bomber role can be anybody, do not need to be master, only precise and enjoy the flying.

So why not enjoying the whole game!

I'm saying this cos problem these days is that you join server and find out there is a 30 german .vs 10 russians cos everybody want to fly 109/190 and be Hartmann.

If more ppl fly both sides and give balance from time to time multiplayer would be much better!

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

It's hard to describe how we operate, so I have included this graph for visualization purposes.

 

[ACG_KaiLae]

Well I'm not so much as a member of a squadron as an organization. Air Combat Group is a organization that operates 6 allied squadrons and 7 luftwaffe staffels; ACG has about 170 active pilots. In the upcoming campaign we will be flying all the aircraft in the battle of moscow, other than the IL-2 and the BF-110. Each squadron however will fly only 1 type of aircraft from the start to the end of the campaign. So both? 

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

7 hours ago, =BAIT=CG_Justin said:

It's hard to describe how we operate, so I have included this graph for visualization purposes.

 

Looks like they are all in. Make sure they don't accidently kick each other, take turns

[=EXPEND=CG_Justin]

12 minutes ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

Looks like they are all in. Make sure they don't accidently kick each other, take turns

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Any type available but preferably 109 or yak. On random deatchmatch we will join side which has less players. During long online campaign VVS - most challenging as fighter, on TAW one time reds  next blue. Love missions with only underdogs types or campaigns which starts with early planeset. Ofc there are some times deviations

[Talon_]

13 hours ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

except this is a game, i consider myself really good yak, spit, 109 and 190 pilot with very good dogfight stats, shooting down so called masters that fly only one type!

If you're a good pilot you'll be good in most of the planes, just using it's advantages and smart tactics.

Bomber role can be anybody, do not need to be master, only precise and enjoy the flying.

So why not enjoying the whole game!

I'm saying this cos problem these days is that you join server and find out there is a 30 german .vs 10 russians cos everybody want to fly 109/190 and be Hartmann.

If more ppl fly both sides and give balance from time to time multiplayer would be much better!

 

Exactly. I'm a fighter pilot first and foremost but sometimes you just have to fly whatever you're sitting in and make it work!

 

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Edited August 23, 2018 by Talon_

[DD_Crash]

Very hard to answer the question. DangerDogz have no C.O. , you dont have to qualify to do anything. We fly to enjoy ourselves in a friendly atmosphere. Some of us are very good at dogfighting, mud moving, and level bombing and some of us arnt as good as we would like to be. We all have a favorite ride but all of us are willing to fly what is needed. The squad has been going since BG founded us in 2007  and we try to keep things going in the way he wanted, no saluting, giving orders etc

[Chief_Mouser]

The 216th is very much along the same lines as the DangerDogz. No rules, just enjoy flying with each other. Very multi-national as well. Tend to fly Soviet for organised online events (FNBF) but not exclusively and anything and everything is fair game. The old 242Sqn in Il-2 46 was along the same lines - absolutely no hierarchy whatsoever. Suits me fine.

Cheers.

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

20 hours ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

except this is a game, i consider myself really good yak, spit, 109 and 190 pilot with very good dogfight stats, shooting down so called masters that fly only one type!

If you're a good pilot you'll be good in most of the planes, just using it's advantages and smart tactics.

Bomber role can be anybody, do not need to be master, only precise and enjoy the flying.

So why not enjoying the whole game!

I'm saying this cos problem these days is that you join server and find out there is a 30 german .vs 10 russians cos everybody want to fly 109/190 and be Hartmann.

If more ppl fly both sides and give balance from time to time multiplayer would be much better!

I fly sims because I can’t fly for real, anymore.  So, I fly as I would in real life.  For me, it’s more a sim than a game.

[busdriver]

22 hours ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

 ...i consider myself really good yak, spit, 109 and 190 pilot   with very good dogfight stats, shooting down so called masters   that fly only one type!

 

I fixed that for ya.  

 

A friend of a friend crashed his T-28 this morning while I was out RL flying. Two motorists stopped their cars and climbed over the airport fence to pull him out of the fireball. He's in hospital.

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by busdriver

[TWC_TWC_SLAG]

35 minutes ago, busdriver said:

 

I fixed that for ya.  

 

A friend of a friend crashed his T-28 this morning while I was out RL flying. Two motorists stopped their cars and climbed over the airport fence to pull him out of the fireball. He's in hospital.

 

 

 

I hope it comes out all right for him.  Keep me updated.

[Cpt_Siddy]

This video is close aproximation

 

 

[[CPT]CptJackSparrow]

46 minutes ago, busdriver said:

 

A friend of a friend crashed his T-28 this morning while I was out RL flying. Two motorists stopped their cars and climbed over the airport fence to pull him out of the fireball. He's in hospital.

 

 

Sad. I'll pray for him and his.

 

[[CPT]Crunch]

My Brother works out there, sent some pics, he says it's a mustang, look that way in the clip also.  Leave it to the news......  Guy escaped with face injuries, apparently ground looped it on landing.

[busdriver]

24 minutes ago, [CPT]Crunch said:

My Brother works out there, sent some pics, he says it's a mustang, look that way in the clip also.  Leave it to the news......  Guy escaped with face injuries, apparently ground looped it on landing.

 

Nope. It's a T-28, the pilot's name is Chuck Cook.

 

You can listen to the tower audio on ATCLive.net (KANE 1600-1630Z archive). Everything was normal, he reported 8 miles SE of the airport, was getting sequenced to a left downwind for 18. A bit later Tower offered him the overhead, he accepted, Tower told him to report "the numbers", couple of minutes later he reported "the numbers", and was cleared for a left break. Whilst in the left hand break he mentioned smoke in the cockpit and concern about getting his gear down, said he got the gear was down but a had lot of cockpit smoke, Tower asked if he needed assistance. No panic in his voice.

 

I had taken off 40 minutes prior to this, returned 2 hours after. I saw the big black scorched pattern when I turned downwind to 27, landed with a 15-20 knot left crosswind.

 

There are no Mustangs (that I'm aware of) on ANE. There are 2 T-28s on the field. Several of my club mates have ridden in this T-28. He was going to give a ride to another club member tomorrow, his potential passenger was pretty shook up since he took off just before she did this morning.

[Ribbon]

15 hours ago, busdriver said:

 

I fixed that for ya.  in SP!

 

 

 

 

 

Me to for you;)

Edited August 24, 2018 by EAF_Ribbon

[TP_Sparky]

 

SLAG asked, “…(H)ow sim squadrons operate.  … does your squadron concentrate on 1-2 planes, or … fly everything and anything….?  [How was] the squadron … originally conceived?"

 

Tangmere Pilots operate in the spirit of The Few who flew from Tangmere in the Battle of Britain.  The online squadron’s advanced through IL2, IL21946, and Cliffs of Dover, to the new IL2 series.  Our present campaign has a few more weeks flying P-39s and A-20s in the Kuban.  Our last campaign was Bf109G and Ju-88s in Kuban for 16 weeks defending the Goth’s Head Line.  Next we’ll go back in time to Moscow and 109E’s and 110s and perhaps Ju-88s. 

 

We alternate sides on each campaign.  After the IL2 Western Front campaign is released we’ll go there for a while.

We divide naturally into dashing, heroic fighter types and intelligent, reasonable bomber pilots, about a dozen each and we’re gaining members.  You select your type at campaign start.  It’s been said there’s opportunity to change at mid-campaign but I’ve not seen it. 

 

We learn our specific aircraft thoroughly and practice up on training nights before beginning new campaigns.  Sunday night at eight o’clock p.m. is mission brief and then we fly our (amazing) missions.  Sunday attendance is mandatory.  I never cease to wonder at the mission designer’s creativity.  I’m continually surprised by the cool wrinkles and hair-raising surprises.   

 

Squadron members are a delight to fly with.  Their teamwork’s developed over the years and they never hesitate to help a new guy.  On Sundays we try for radio discipline.  Tuesday and Friday night “training” often starts with mission-related flying like taking 109E models into a public server to practice for the next campaign but after a while we might fly on a public server in Spits or 190s or 110s or dogfight each other in our practice server over Kuban.  On training nights we might get a wild hair and fly I-16’s or whatever but it’s just for fun and if someone doesn’t own an aircraft they substitute.

 

The flying is fun but the rich, generous, funny personalities are even more appealing.  These guys evoke the camaraderie of The Few who lounged around Tangmere in August and September, 1940 waiting for a scramble.  I served as an infantry officer and as a military pilot and these guys would have fit right into my squadron. 

 

If this sounds appealing, check out our website.  We’re nearing the end of our summer break which allowed some new pilots to get through their training flights quickly.  Contact us and join us in the sky.

 

Sparky

flight sergeant, Press Officer

Tangmere Pilots

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Edited August 27, 2018 by TP_Sparky