When the Battle of Korea can be started?

[PatrickAWlson]

5 hours ago, InProgress said:

Hopefully never lol 

I wouldn't say that.  But maybe after the eastern front is finished.  And Normandy - end in the west  is fleshed out.  And Malta.  And North Africa.  And the Pacific.  And Battle of Britain.  And battle of France.  And the channel front.  And all of WWI (Maybe just the western front, eastern front, and Italy/Austria).  So soon - very soon.

 

 

[Trooper117]

I have this gut feeling that Korea may be sooner than you think... and just to be clear, I'm one of those users that would like to see another WWII add on.

The recent interview with Froogle, plus Han's comments on a Korean theatre clearly show it has got into their mind set... 

[Ehret]

24 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

I have this gut feeling that Korea may be sooner than you think... and just to be clear, I'm one of those users that would like to see another WWII add on.

 

True - anytime as soon next week. WWIII would make for great fresh add-ons to IL-2 series in semi-distant future. 

 

Edited August 22, 2018 by Ehret

[dburne]

I have mixed feelings about a Korea scenario, being I am a WWII guy at heart.

It would be interesting though.

[Sokol1]

If Korea result something like Mig Alley will be nice.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

The more I think about it having a Korean spin off(no full game) simular to TC and FC would be cool. The ww2 core game can keep going but along side that we get a limited Korean module with at first a small Korea map and Mig + Sabre and if it gets popular do a volume 2.  That way we get something different and don't interrupt the core ww2 crowd. 

 

We might as well get as much out of this engine and use what it is capable of that way it will really life up to the great battles name.

Edited August 22, 2018 by AeroAce

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

I have this gut feeling that Korea may be sooner than you think... and just to be clear, I'm one of those users that would like to see another WWII add on.

The recent interview with Froogle, plus Han's comments on a Korean theatre clearly show it has got into their mind set... 

 

After PTO if I had to lay money down.

Two aircraft and a map can get rolling - and WWII content can remain in development as well. Maps, aircraft, including late war Russian collector planes, etc.

 

I frankly don’t see MTO happening at all.

 

 

[Trooper117]

If they do a Korea, for me, to make me buy it I would want a full add on, not just a couple of aircraft and a small map.

If they want people to get into a theatre they have never tried before, it has to be the full monty...

[Lusekofte]

23 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

If they do a Korea, for me, to make me buy it I would want a full add on, not just a couple of aircraft and a small map.

If they want people to get into a theatre they have never tried before, it has to be the full monty...

I agree with this, it got to be proper. But I personally feel we should get a taste of the long over due Pacific. I would however love a Korea theatre, last dogfighter war, Analog bombing and firing. I like a full loaded sky raider as much as the next guy. Or maybe a A 26 

[Gambit21]

30 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

If they do a Korea, for me, to make me buy it I would want a full add on, not just a couple of aircraft and a small map.

If they want people to get into a theatre they have never tried before, it has to be the full monty...

 

To be clear, I said “get rolling”, and nothing about a small map.

 

We’d also already have the Mustang and Corsair which would then need only to be upgraded to different versions.

 

Point is, a map, MiG and Sabre and we have good playability right there for pre-sales while waiting for other content.

[=621=Samikatz]

On 8/19/2018 at 4:44 PM, Royal_Flight said:

Italy/Sicily would be a great theatre and offers a load of new planes for both sides The entire Axis planeset can easily be filled with Italian types, some of which can be used in the East; and the Allied set can be full of aircraft which could also be used in other ETO settings and the Pacific.

Both sides could also have aircraft that would fit North Africa too.

 

A North African battle that would make a good Il-2 module would be Tunis, which, kinda like Stalingrad, culminated in a mass-airlift operation by the Luftwaffe to resupply surrounded troops by air. Lots of fun planes for both sides; torpedo-armed Ju-88s, Hurricane IIDs with 40mm cannons or rocket armament, Merlin-engined P-40F/Ls, Italian Mc.205s, etc

[PatrickAWlson]

7 hours ago, Trooper117 said:

I have this gut feeling that Korea may be sooner than you think... and just to be clear, I'm one of those users that would like to see another WWII add on.

The recent interview with Froogle, plus Han's comments on a Korean theatre clearly show it has got into their mind set... 

 

Definitely could be, before some of the things on my list.  However, i suspect that we are getting some more WWI and WWII before then ... unless 1C farms out the Korean war to a third party.

[theOden]

After flying MiG-15 in DCS ending up with "why am I doing this" I would be very happy to buy all collector offers for a Korea installment from 1CGS to fly in correct environment with proper ground units. All the different ground ops from the amph. landing to the final struggle of the Marines up north should allow for some interesting situations.

[Herne]

there is a lot of potential with the korean theatre. We could have carriers, piston AC, Jets, Helicopters. . . . The more I think about, the more I think it is something I would like to see. And the back and forth of the front line could make for interesting careers too.

[Mac_Messer]

I don`t have any interest in the theatre and doubt if there is any beyond stricly American customers. That said I wonder if devs could just dip their feet in the marketplace to check if the demand is there. One map, maybe 4 planes for the standard price and then who knows. Would be fun to know what devs think about venturing onto other theatres - a "all over the place" or "cover the already modeled content first" attitude.

[Godspeed]

With current AI level i hope not.

[Diggun]

35 minutes ago, Mac_Messer said:

beyond stricly American customers

British customer here, definitely interested.

[Lusekofte]

16 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Point is, a map, MiG and Sabre and we have good playability right there for pre-sales while waiting for other content.

 

U.S. Air Force strength at close of hostilities (1953)

• B-26 128A/C 85 sorties/night 
• F-84 218 A/C 1281 sorties/day 
• F-86 F/B 132 N/A 
• F-86 I 165 143 sorties/day 
• B-29 99 12-14 sorties/night 
• TOTAL 742

Chicom Strength (Located in Manchuria)

• Jet Fighters (probably MIG-15s) 950 
• Prop Fighters (probably YAK-9s) 160 
• Jet Light Bombers (IL-28s) ` 100 
• Prop bombers 65 
• Ground Attack (IL-2s) 115 
• Transports 90 
• TOTAL 1480

To get Korea right there is a lot to be done if it not going to be another Mig vs Sabre dogfight thingy. 

If this is done properly I think Korea great battles will be one of the most popular packs to date. It will bring 

a plane- set never seen on a sim before if you do not count modded IL 2 (witch is good btw) And it will bring a lot of interest from jet enthusiast in DCS

 

I know Jason do not like to be compared to DCS, but this pack will be compared to the death. The most fun plane to fly in DCS is the MIG 15 and MIG 21 . So it have to be good

Edited August 23, 2018 by LuseKofte

[Herne]

2 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

 

U.S. Air Force strength at close of hostilities (1953)

• B-26 128A/C 85 sorties/night 
• F-84 218 A/C 1281 sorties/day 
• F-86 F/B 132 N/A 
• F-86 I 165 143 sorties/day 
• B-29 99 12-14 sorties/night 
• TOTAL 742

Chicom Strength (Located in Manchuria)

• Jet Fighters (probably MIG-15s) 950 
• Prop Fighters (probably YAK-9s) 160 
• Jet Light Bombers (IL-28s) ` 100 
• Prop bombers 65 
• Ground Attack (IL-2s) 115 
• Transports 90 
• TOTAL 1480

To get Korea right there is a lot to be done if it not going to be another Mig vs Sabre dogfight thingy. 

If this is done properly I think Korea great battles will be one of the most popular packs to date. It will bring 

a plane- set never seen on a sim before if you do not count modded IL 2 (witch is good btw) And it will bring a lot of interest from jet enthusiast in DCS

 

but don't forget the sea fury and other allied piston AC. And I certainly wouldn't object to the odd helicopter or two  

[Gambit21]

Yep - Mustangs and Corsairs among them.

[Lusekofte]

In the list above they say B 26, but I am sure A 26 , the true A 20 replacement was active too. Sea Fury will add a interesting English touch. The list say IL 2´s but I was pretty sure IL 10´s was active too, anyone know about that?

 

Sky raiders also I think 

 

The MIG 15 competed well against the Sabre, the only disadvantage was the sight and slighter lower climb rate and speed. But was a lot more maneuverable  In this game I think maybe MIG will have the edge. I think it will be great fun

Edited August 23, 2018 by LuseKofte

[Aero*Bohemio]

It would be a dream come true; Mig-15s; late Yak-9s; La-11; Tu-2s; Sea Fury; F-9; F-86s and a big etc...love KTO.

 

But would like first "Battle of Berlin" (we'll already have Bodenplatte planes available):

 

Yak-3

Yak-9U

La-7

P-63

il-10

B-17/24

 

FW190A9

109K4C3

Do-335

Ta-152

Me-410

Ar-234

 

And also early "Battle of Finland" with tchaikas, hurris, buffalos, moranes, fiats, D.XXIs, blenheims, tb3/sb2, etc.

BTW;
 

17 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

The MIG 15 competed well against the Sabre, the only disadvantage was the sight and slighter lower climb rate and speed. But was a lot more maneuverable  In this game I think maybe MIG will have the edge. I think it will be great fun

 

It depends; regarding climb rate the 15 would eat early Sabres for breakfast, speacially at high alts. During early stages of KTO a known tactic by VVS pilots was to take advantage of superior service ceiling, dive on bombers, and go up untouchable by the early asmatic Sabres.

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by ECV56_Chimango

[Diggun]

10 minutes ago, ECV56_Chimango said:

But would like first "Battle of Berlin"

Yes please. Would be great to have late war russians to match with the late war germans coming in BoBP.

 

Plus I don't see the pacific appealing to anyone but a strictly american audience 

Edited August 23, 2018 by Diggun

[Gambit21]

12 minutes ago, Diggun said:

Yes please. Would be great to have late war russians to match with the late war germans coming in BoBP.

 

Plus I don't see the pacific appealing to anyone but a strictly american audience 

 

Then respectfully, you're a big ignorant about the Pacific in general.

 Americans were not the only ones who fought in the PTO. 

 

Also, I'm not German, but I like German planes...so extrapolating that logic, even if Americans were the only ones who fought in the Pacific (odd you you discount even Japanese) then your thinking falls apart a bit here.

[Herne]

20 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Then respectfully, you're a big ignorant about the Pacific in general.

 Americans were not the only ones who fought in the PTO. 

 

Also, I'm not German, but I like German planes...so extrapolating that logic, even if Americans were the only ones who fought in the Pacific (odd you you discount even Japanese) then your thinking falls apart a bit here.

 

he was being sarcastic gambit due to a comment earlier on the page

[Lusekofte]

43 minutes ago, Diggun said:

Plus I don't see the pacific appealing to anyone but a strictly american audience 

 

REmember 777 got a lot of attention about Pacific, and I know for a fact that not all Americans are thrilled by this theatre, But I come from Norway and are ecstatic about it. I am pretty sure PTO is coming, and I hope New Guinea with Beufighters will follow. We all have dreams and Jason have a wallet to think of. So we can still dream, but Jason can't afford to

[Diggun]

Sorry, was being flippant. Text is rubbish for tone!

[Herne]

9 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

 

REmember 777 got a lot of attention about Pacific, and I know for a fact that not all Americans are thrilled by this theatre, But I come from Norway and are ecstatic about it. I am pretty sure PTO is coming, and I hope New Guinea with Beufighters will follow. We all have dreams and Jason have a wallet to think of. So we can still dream, but Jason can't afford to

 

At the end of the day it doesn't matter where we are from. The Pacific offers some very interesting plane sets that I think any of us that like aeroplanes would all love to see made with some IL2 fidelity.

[Gambit21]

14 minutes ago, Diggun said:

Sorry, was being flippant. Text is rubbish for tone!

 

LOL - no worries.

I didn’t pick up on it until too late.

[CountZero]

1 hour ago, ECV56_Chimango said:

It would be a dream come true; Mig-15s; late Yak-9s; La-11; Tu-2s; Sea Fury; F-9; F-86s and a big etc...love KTO.

 

But would like first "Battle of Berlin" (we'll already have Bodenplatte planes available):

 

Yak-3

Yak-9U

La-7

P-63

il-10

B-17/24

 

FW190A9

109K4C3

Do-335

Ta-152

Me-410

Ar-234

 

...

 

That would be nice and more probably to happend then korea, i would just replace that K4 with G10 ( they can add that C3 to existing K4 from BoBp like they did with F engine on la5 from BoS) and remove Do335 its fantasy airplane, on russian just add tu-2 insted b-17/24s as they are also probabaly never gona happend in this game and either yak9 or yak 3 will be by that time as separate collector airplane so one can go also. If i would have to bet i give this planset more chance to happend then even some pto dlc

Edited August 23, 2018 by 77.CountZero

[Diggun]

I would snap up a yak-3 and a yak 9-u as collector planes in a heartbeat.

[Gambit21]

Just now, Diggun said:

I would snap up a yak-3 and a yak 9-u as collector planes in a heartbeat.

 

I think many feel the same way.

My money is on those happening at some point.  I’ll purchsse to support but will likely never fly them.

[Lusekofte]

Mny disagree about what the best piston fighter was , I have no clue but many say LA 7/9 or Yak 3 

[Legioneod]

25 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Mny disagree about what the best piston fighter was , I have no clue but many say LA 7/9 or Yak 3 

Depends on what you want I guess, jack of all trades master of none, or an aircraft that is superior in one regard but inferior in another.

 

Some say its the P-51, some say Spitfire, 109, etc. It all depends and it's all subjective.

 

I'm not really a huge P-51 fan but it probably was the best all round fighter during the war, it wasn't the best at anything, but it could do what it needed to do and it could handle almost every German aircraft it faced. A few German pilots said it was the best fighter they ever faced.

 

I don't think any aircraft was superior in every category, they all had their place.

Edited August 23, 2018 by Legioneod

[MasserME262]

2 hours ago, ECV56_Chimango said:

[...]

Me-410

[...]

Shut up and take my money

[blockheadgreen_]

Honestly a larger planeset (albeit more work) for Korea would make more sense:

 

F-86F

F-80C

F4U-5

AD-4

Sea Fury FB. 11

Seafire FR. 47

 

MiG-15bis 

La-9

La-11

Yak-9U

Il-10

Tu-2

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by Lythronax

[Ehret]

6 minutes ago, Lythronax said:

Honestly a larger planeset (albeit more work) for Korea would make more sense:

 

For Korea there must be the F-82  IMHO - the very first US plane which saw combat there. Too unique to exclude, as well.

[Elem]

Hey y'all don't forget the fabulous SPAD!...

 

[6./ZG26_Custard]

 

Korea would be good but.......

 

I would prefer this theater , flying a Sandy or an F-4

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

4 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

 

Korea would be good but.......

 

I would prefer this theater , flying a Sandy or an F-4

 Both theatres are great, but I suppose SEA would better be done in DCS.