bf109 violent shake

[jg23syncromash]

so I just got my joystick and ill be flying around a bf109 e3 from the france freeflight quick mission and sometimes my aircraft does a violent shake! my oil radiator Is completely back so there is no engine failure and iy=ts very hard to understand somethings considering Im only 13 but I am still determined to play so could someone plz help

many thanks

ps I just went to play again and my engine stopped for no reason plz help with this to

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 15, 2018 by jg23syncromash

[ATAG_kiwiflieger]

Hi syncromash,

Is this shake only temporary or permanent? If it's permanent, it's probably damage to the engine. Keep your RPMs at 2300 or below in normal flight as much as possible, the issue may be an overrev of the engine. I would recommend reading up on the aircraft engine limits here: https://www.theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bf109e34 Lots of other good info on that wiki for someone starting out too.

See you in the skies 

[-SF-Disarray]

Under what circumstances, specifically, do you encounter this shaking? Knowing that will help narrow down the possibilities.

[jg23syncromash]

8 minutes ago, ATAG_kiwiflieger said:

Hi syncromash,

Is this shake only temporary or permanent? If it's permanent, it's probably damage to the engine. Keep your RPMs at 2300 or below in normal flight as much as possible, the issue may be an overrev of the engine. I would recommend reading up on the aircraft engine limits here: https://www.theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bf109e34 Lots of other good info on that wiki for someone starting out too.

See you in the skies 

it stops when magnetos are at their lowest

 

2 minutes ago, Disarray said:

Under what circumstances, specifically, do you encounter this shaking? Knowing that will help narrow down the possibilities.

it sometimes happens randomly I think it was my speed either way its bad

 

ok guys another problem I face is my engine stops and I cant turn it back on 

 

[fogpipe]

Are you flying on normal with throttle assist? The engine might be stopping because is seized up from over heating.

[-SF-Disarray]

If it is happening when you are turning real hard the shaking could be the prelude to a stall, If the shaking happens when you are diving aggressively from high up it could be over speed. Both of these are the common causes of most shaking. If it is the first case, don't apply as much elevator in the turn when at high speed. 109's can be very sharp turning planes but only when the speed is low so slow down if you need to make a particularly sharp turn. If you feel you need to keep your speed up make your turn wider. This applies to all aircraft, generally, but the speed will vary from plane to plane; a Yak will turn tighter at higher speeds for example.

 

If it is the second case, then you need to make your dives more shallow, decrease your throttle before you enter the dive, or pull out of the dive earlier. I am not familiar with the particulars of the 109 E3 off hand, but all the turn and dive speeds you need are in the game for you to reference when you are flying the plane. Just go into the map screen, default button for that is O, and click on the 'Specifications' tab in the right panel. There is a lot of information there, really everything you need to know for basic operation of the plane. At the bottom you will find notes on the plane that might answer questions that the rest of the data doesn't.

 

Another thing to keep in mind with the E3 is that it is the only 109 that has full manual radiators, both oil and water. If you are using full engine control mode you will have to set them both to keep the engine from burning up. The exact settings for each radiator vary based on ambient temperature and what you want your plane to do, if you want all possible speed for example you can close the radiators fully for a short time. Generally speaking you want to keep your rads as shut as you can get away with while keeping the temps under the maximum running temp found in the specifications tab.

[jg23syncromash]

im flying a e3 

 

so what your saying is watch my ATA and keep my rpm below 2500

but what about my engine dying?

[ATAG_kiwiflieger]

Is this Cliffs of Dover Blitz? I think this may be in the wrong forum section.

 

38 minutes ago, jg23syncromash said:

it stops when magnetos are at their lowest

 

ok guys another problem I face is my engine stops and I cant turn it back on 

 

 

The shake stopping when the magnetos are off is because your engine is no longer on and generating any power. Engine stopping and won't turn back on? Also very likely damage related.

In the 109E, you will be seeing this cockpit (hopefully):

The two temperature dials below the gear indicator (two green lights in this pic) should both read 90-95 deg C when you hover the cursor over them. If they are higher than that, then this is likely the cause of engine failure. Also note that as this is the 109E-3, there is no automatic prop-pitch and it has to be managed constantly below 2400 RPM to keep the engine happy.

 

[jg23syncromash]

the two green lights on the right aren't they for gear?

anyway see you in the skys

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Violent shake usually means that you have damaged your engine either by overheating (oil or water, two separate radiators) or by pushing it over limits for too long, breaking it down mechanically.

 

Have a look here :

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16592

Download the first pdf (complete guide) and go on page 209

 

You will see for each 109 variant the different engines parameters for each regime (emergency, take off, climb and normal cruise) and the time limit you should never exceed for a given power setting if you don't wan't your engine suddenly die on you.

 

For example : on the E3 the cruise power is 1.15ata manifold pressure and 2200 RPM. And this should be what you are flying 80% of the time. In combat, you can go up to 1.3ata and 2400RPM if necessary but for no longer than 5min.

[jg23syncromash]

cheers guys for the help I have got the hang of it now I destroyed 6 ai spits 

eric hartmann here I come