What size monitor do you run?

[JonRedcorn]

Looking into buying a new monitor since my two Dell 23 inch's are kind of small. I've been using headtracking instead of the oculus and want to grab something a little bigger. Was thinking a 27 inch 1080p, you can pick them up off Amazon for extremely cheap. I was really shocked how cheap 1080p monitors are in general. Basic 1080p 75hz monitors can be had for under a hundred bucks! That's crazy. So just figured I'd ask and see what everyone was running the sim on. Also if you could say which resolution you are using as well would be nice! Some people I noticed were saying 27 inch is too big for 1080p and that stuff starts looking a little pixelated. So not sure if I should jump to 1440p or not. With the new graphics cards from Nvidia due out within the next month it's looking like it's time to start upgrading again, exciting times ahead for sure.

 

Thanks.

 

 

[Hoss]

https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gaming-monitors/

 

[JonRedcorn]

1 hour ago, 19//Hoss said:

https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gaming-monitors/

 

hahaha Not really looking to spend anywhere near any of those prices. 800 dollars for a computer monitor? That's insane.

 

150 bucks is about my limit, just want something bigger so I can see better was just curious what other people run. Typing best gaming "blank" into google always gets you those lists that some tech journalist threw together to get clicks. Was looking for more actual user feedback.

[69th_Mobile_BBQ]

I hate to promote Walmart but, their website has a nice variety of large (40"+) non-smart televisions with the appropriate input connectors for under $300.  Often times you can get free 2-day shipping as well.    

[Dakpilot]

A lot of 50" 4K TV's are available at surprisingly reasonable prices  in many sales

 

Definitely worth investigating in your area

 

Just a thought 

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[LLv34_Temuri]

I use a 42" FullHD TV. Sufficient for me.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

40" 4k monitor

 

For a serious flight simmer, you can never go too big. As long as you can see a part of the room you're in, you need more screen surface !

 

Joke aside, 27" is the bare minimum imho, you may also consider 32" if you have some desk space and spend noticeable time on flight simming. The pixel density of a 1440p 32" is the same as a 24" 1080p monitor, so things should look no more pixelated than your current setup. The extra details you get with an increased in resolution is well worth it.

 

Seing your config in your signature, your computer will handle this resolution without any problem !

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

50 minutes ago, Dakpilot said:

A lot of 50" 4K TV's are available at surprisingly reasonable prices  in many sales

 

Be very careful with televisions. Some models have sub-par input lag that can make gaming very painful (although excellent models certainly exist, be sure to verify). Driving 4K with a 1070 also isn't trivial, so you'd have to make some sacrifices in most modern games. Of course, new Nvidia hardware will make that irrelevant.

 

5 hours ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

Was thinking a 27 inch 1080p

 

Think about the desk you'll be using (more specifically, the distance between the monitor and your eyes). The poor pixel density of 27" 1080p can be overcome by sitting sufficiently far from the monitor, but that isn't always an option. Buying a big screen with the same resolution won't increase the image quality; you'll likely just end up wanting to sit farther away.

 

It does not make sense to get a cheap 1080p monitor for something as powerful as a GTX 1070 (not to mention future products). Spend a bit more for 1440p or 4K to use the full capabilities of those expensive graphics cards. Pairing a $1500 computer with a $150 monitor is wasteful.

 

Although many are migrating to 4K, 27"-32" 1440p monitors are a nice compromise between price and performance for gamers right now.

 

 

Edited August 15, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo

[Dutchvdm]

A couple of months ago i upgraded from a 27" 1440p to a 32" 1440p. I could not be happier. Both are 144 hz (Which is a absolute must for me), but the extra screensize makes for some nice immersion. The dpi is lower, but not to low, and 1440p is a nice middleground since 4K is not an option with the current gen GPU's. 

 

Grt M 

[Wilhelm_Heidkamp]

LG 30" 2560*1600pixels.

 

 

[Jade_Monkey]

Running an ultrawide 34" LG 3440x1440. Awesome for flight sims and any gaming really.

[NuVen]

I just bought an ASUS PB277Q 27" WQHD 2560x1440 75Hz 1ms HDMI DVI VGA Eye Care Monitor for about $280 US on amazon. It is a TN monitor and not FreeSync enabled, but it is fine for IL-2 Great Battles .

 This is on Amazon ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K/UHD 3840x2160 1ms DP HDMI Adaptive Sync/FreeSync Eye for about the same price. It is a 60 Hz monitor.

 

I have a Rx 580 and IL-2 is running at 75 Hz consistently, with Grass detail and Shader at lower settings (medium).

 

For a 27 inch monitor, you definitely want at least 1440 pixels for the smaller details, such as spotting another airplane in flight.

The extra $100 or so for an IPS monitor, puts it into not going to happen territory. 

 

The monitor out of the box, is more brightness than appropriate. I have a Spyder5 for calibration, which is tool I am glad to of purchased a few years back.

[JonRedcorn]

The guys running very large displays where do you mount your trackir camera? I want to try using this 45 inch tv I have but there's no way I can sit in front of it with the camera on the top. It's just too high.

[Remontti]

1 hour ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

The guys running very large displays where do you mount your trackir camera? I want to try using this 45 inch tv I have but there's no way I can sit in front of it with the camera on the top. It's just too high.

I have placed mine to the window behind the screen. I used a cell phone mount intended for windscreen.

[TheSNAFU]

48 inch Visio HDTV here. Very low input lag rating. The game looks great on it. Track IR camera sits on top n pointed a bit downward. No issues at all. Bigger is better in my book as long as you chose a good tv. Most reviews address gaming performance. 

[Archie]

42" HD TV, I could never go back to a smaller monitor.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

8 hours ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

The guys running very large displays where do you mount your trackir camera? I want to try using this 45 inch tv I have but there's no way I can sit in front of it with the camera on the top. It's just too high.

 

Middle top of the screen, I place the cap a tiny bit back on my head so that the reflectors tends to point upwards towards the camera. 

working great.

 

Just open the TIR software and make sure that the 3 green dots are centered on the camera field of view, by pointing it a bit downwards, and you should be good to go

 

It may also depends how far you are sitting from the screen. On my 40", I can fully extend my arm forward and barely touch it with the tip of my fingers.

Edited August 16, 2018 by F/JG300_Gruber

[BOO]

8 hours ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

The guys running very large displays where do you mount your trackir camera? I want to try using this 45 inch tv I have but there's no way I can sit in front of it with the camera on the top. It's just too high.

I struggled with TIR - 40 inch TV but im sat low in relation to it and about 3ft away. In the end I cobbled up an attachment for my wheel stand pro that allows the camera to sit low in the sight line (equivalent level to the base of the TV but much closer to my bonce. Works very well with no cut outs of glitches. I didn't find the IR lights a problem but turned off those annoying other lights. I now use a delan clip also so the IR is off anyhow. 

 

 

[LLv34_Temuri]

8 hours ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

The guys running very large displays where do you mount your trackir camera?

No camera. I use EDTracker. I could mount the camera on the TV though, as I have a sort of a simpit setup and the camera would be at a suitable level:

[JonRedcorn]

Interesting. When I get home today I am going to attempt setting up the 45 inch. Pretty excited. Gunna try mounting the camera on top at first if that doesn't work then I'll figure something out. It's going to be on my desk so it's going to be pretty high up. My beds behind me so hopefully I can figure something out. Once these new cards come out from Nvidia though I'm probably gunna jump back into VR so this won't be an issue. 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I use double sided sticky foam pads to mount the TiR along the bottom edge of my 42 inch TV. It’s just below eye level and offset slightly to the left to be inline with the track clip pro which I also strongly recommend. Pic when I get home in about thirty minutes.

 

*edit to say TV. It's not technically a monitor.

Edited August 16, 2018 by II/JG17_HerrMurf

[unreasonable]

I have stuck the TiR camera on a music stand with the top removed, so that it is just below the bottom of my 68" TV which is mounted on a low bench so that my eye level is about 40% of the distance from the top of the TV.  This keeps it nearer the PC - the connecting wire is not long enough to reach the top.  It has no problems maintaining track looking up at the hat reflectors. Similar solution to HerMurf's, I see.   Ideally the larger the screen you use, the lower should be whatever it sits on (or perhaps the higher your chair) so that your eye level is somewhere near the middle.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Pardon the messy desk but this is my setup. TV is wall mounted just above the desk. TiR receiver is barely below eye height. 3M foam mounting squares in black. Trimmed and stacked so the receiver has a slight upward angle.

[sevenless]

Four years ago I decided to stop using PC Monitors and switched to a Sony BRAVIA KDL-32W706 32inch Full HD Smart-TV and haven´t regretted that switch.

 

AFAIK it is no more available but you certainly can get the successor model.

 

https://www.amazon.de/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-32W706-Fernseher-Triple/dp/B00I3WQPQK

[JonRedcorn]

So I may have lost my marbles. Fine tuning things now did a quick flight with the g2 and I am absolutely blown away, I dare say almost as much as when I first flew in VR, it's almost like I am flying in vr with this massive screen. Thanks for the tips I have the ps3 eyecam at the bottom and just adjusted my led rig so it points down a bit, seems to be working fine. Need to raise the camera up just a hair though. But my god it's so beautiful. I thought 1080p would be a problem on this size but the games still gorgeous and with 4xAA there's no aliasing to speak of.

 

Thanks again!

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by 15th_JonRedcorn

[LukeFF]

16 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

Pardon the messy desk but this is my setup. TV is wall mounted just above the desk. TiR receiver is barely below eye height. 3M foam mounting squares in black. Trimmed and stacked so the receiver has a slight upward angle.

 

Murf, this post couldn't have come at a better time, as I was getting frustrated with setting up my DelanClip. I moved my TrackIR camera down to the same spot you have yours, and all my problems with it went away.  

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Glad it worked for you. Took a little experimentation, several years ago, to get it right but it has worked great ever since.  I can’t twist around to look over my shoulders with VR rigs. I have a serious back injury, so this is probably my setup for life until VR has some rotation scaling like TiR. I’m sure I’m not the only old fart who can’t twist. 

 

I don’t think I have to go any bigger on the screen but I will go 4K eventually. The video upscaling on modern sets is amazing with older video feeds. Near 4K is great and true 4K feels almost 3d on my flat tv. Hoping it will do the same for gaming.

Edited August 17, 2018 by II/JG17_HerrMurf

[LukeFF]

4 minutes ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

Glad it worked for you. Took a little experimentation, several years ago, to get it right but it has worked great ever since.

 

Yeah, I was about to give up in despair, but once I held the clip up at about the same level as the camera, I saw how much better it was tracking. It was then that I remembered your post up above and, sure enough, moving the camera down did the trick. An added bonus is that the legs of the TrackIR camera seat perfectly into the ridges on my monitor stand, so no tape was necessary to secure it.

 

[HunDread]

7 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

Glad it worked for you. Took a little experimentation, several years ago, to get it right but it has worked great ever since.  I can’t twist around to look over my shoulders with VR rigs. I have a serious back injury, so this is probably my setup for life until VR has some rotation scaling like TiR. I’m sure I’m not the only old fart who can’t twist. 

 

 

A swivel chair with attached HOTAS might work for you pretty well in case at some point in the future you feel only your back is keeping you away from VR.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I'm also waiting for better resolution but I like the feeling of being in fixed seat as I fly for real as well. I've tried VR and it's not quite where I want it to be yet. I really like my TiR, so I don't feel like I'm missing out ATM. When both of those other issues get sorted I'll take the plunge.

[JonRedcorn]

11 hours ago, II/JG17_HerrMurf said:

I'm also waiting for better resolution but I like the feeling of being in fixed seat as I fly for real as well. I've tried VR and it's not quite where I want it to be yet. I really like my TiR, so I don't feel like I'm missing out ATM. When both of those other issues get sorted I'll take the plunge.

Honestly I am enjoying playing on this 45 inch TV more than I was playing in the rift, yes the rift gave you a better sense, but this massive screen right in my face is damn close and the picture is leagues ahead. Everything is so nice looking.

[Ceowulf]

I played on a 21.5 iMac on 1080p for a couple years in ROF.  Way too small and too low res.  

 

Now, I have a Philips 40" monitor I got for $500 on ebay.  I choose it for the fast input response times (low lag).  I fly on 4k and suffer low frame rates (high 40s fps) in exchange for the beauty.  To be honest, when I compared 1080p, 1440p, and 4k, I saw 1080 was notably worse but the difference between 1440 and 4K was quite small in the actual experience of them.  1440p is beautiful on a 40."

 

Also, wider is better.

 

Ceowulf<><

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

 Has anyone tried a 3D tv or monitor? 

[kestrel79]

27" x 3 monitors. I only go triple screens for iRacing though, my PC isn't fast enough to run all the sims and games I like to play on 3 screens at a high enough fps at the moment. I think once I go VR down the road, I'll sell off my 3 screens and get 1 larger gaming centric screen for games and web browsing, then use VR for sims.

[NETSCAPE]

I have a curved 34" 3440x1440p DELL that runs at 60Hz. I can't imagine going back to 1080p.

[[CPT]CptJackSparrow]

55" Samsung, wall mount.

[NO.20_W_M_Thomson]

 

17 hours ago, Tawhiao said:

 Has anyone tried a 3D tv or monitor? 

The reason I'm asking is some of you say having a large monitor/TV  is almost as good as having VR. Having 3D turned on should be even closer to having VR would it not?

Not sure if you need a 3D tv if your video card supports it do you? At the moment I use a 21-inch monitor and well it sucks and thinking of a big screen TV. So has anyone tried the 3D glasses?

[JonRedcorn]

Started playing in the headset again, but the cool thing is I can now play 1946 and Clod easily on the big screen, which I sometimes do, that VP modpack is super cool.

[KoN_]

40" TV with 4k . 60hz.

I Fly at 1080p. Though . Spotting is better than 4k.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by II./JG77_Con

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

35 minutes ago, II./JG77_Con said:

40" TV with 4k . 60hz.

I Fly at 1080p. Though . Spotting is better than 4k.

How grainy is the image tho as 1080P on a 4K screen would make massive pixels?

Also can you spot @ 10km with 4K screen and you just cant ID them.
or you cant see them at all over like 5km?

 

Edited August 23, 2018 by =TBAS=Sshadow14