FW190 D9 difference between early and late model

[303_Bies]

5 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Asgar said:

i might be remembering wrong but i think with the change in position of the ETC the also moved the engine somewhat. but it's been a while that i did the in depth reading

Yes, but i doubt they would do that if it would handicapped cooling to this extend.

I think developers implemented some new heat mechanics in case of A8 and left A5 with older system at this moment. It's only my opinion. But with similar cooling system and identical engine it is strange to have 10 degrees C more in every situation (staying on the ground, flying 1.3 ata, flying 1.42 ata, climbing, diving, openicg/closing cowl flaps etc. Always about 10 degrees more.

Edited August 17, 2018 by bies

[PainGod85]

14 minutes ago, bies said:

Yes, it is a big difference.

BTW. I thought A5 had longer nose and changed CoG in compare with A3.

I think A5 and A8 have the same lenght.

Maybe with A8 the devs implemented just different heat system and didn't have a time to implement it to older planes?

 

11 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Asgar said:

i might be remembering wrong but i think with the change in position of the ETC the also moved the engine somewhat. but it's been a while that i did the in depth reading

 

The change in CoG was done starting with the A-5. There is no reason at all why the A-8 should produce higher engine or oil temperatures at the same boost, altitude and airspeed, especially considering it also has an arbitrary time limit on the 1.42 ATA combat power setting.

[9./JG27golani79]

2 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Asgar said:

yes they are. the mentioned the new DM once after Normandy release and then dropped it cause

 

Do you have a source for this?

[Asgar]

1 minute ago, 9./JG27golani79 said:

 

Do you have a source for this?

1 1/2 years later and it was never mentioned again... plus DCS WWII is dead

[PainGod85]

29 minutes ago, 9./JG27golani79 said:

 

Do you have a source for this?

 

There are videos on Youtube with the Hornet missing a wing, both vertical stabs, shooting missiles and landing in one piece.

These are not the hallmarks of a good or even well thought out DM.

[Cybermat47]

16 minutes ago, PainGod85 said:

 

There are videos on Youtube with the Hornet missing a wing, both vertical stabs, shooting missiles and landing in one piece.

These are not the hallmarks of a good or even well thought out DM.

 

It’s still in early access though, right?

 

But TBH I’m not going to go out of my way to defend DCS... why make a MiG-15 and UH-1 without a Korea or Vietnam map?

[9./JG27golani79]

20 minutes ago, PainGod85 said:

 

There are videos on Youtube with the Hornet missing a wing, both vertical stabs, shooting missiles and landing in one piece.

These are not the hallmarks of a good or even well thought out DM.

 

I was referring to the statement by Asgar that the development of the new DM was dropped by ED ... everyone knows that everything at ED takes forever to finish.

Still completely dropping the development of a new DM would provide kind of a source I think.

 

But - this is still D9 early vs late.

So lets get back to topic.

Edited August 17, 2018 by 9./JG27golani79

[PainGod85]

Just now, PB_Cybermat47 said:

 

It’s still in early access though, right?

 

But TBH I’m not going to go out of my way to defend DCS... why make a MiG-15 and UH-1 without a Korea or Vietnam map?

 

True, but there are other longstanding issues with DCS.

Plus, really, failing to properly model loss of lift? That's an...interesting...oversight.

Just now, 9./JG27golani79 said:

 

I was referring to the statement by Asgar that the development of the new DM was dropped by ED ... everyone knows that everything at ED takes forever to finish.

Still completely dropping the development of a new DM would provide kind of a source I think.

 

But - this is still D9 early vs late.

So lets get back to topic.

 

Yeah, agreed.

[MiloMorai]

Guys there are all kinds of books out there on WW2 a/c. Why not buy them and help the authors get a return for the hours and hours of time, and money, spent in researching for the book. Then there would be less speculation or 'I think'.

 

One bonus of moving the engine forward 6" was the cockpit became cooler.

Edited August 17, 2018 by MiloMorai

[JonRedcorn]

17 hours ago, 7.GShAP/Silas said:

 

Found it!

 

 

The one I had happen the other day was way more hardcore, the wing was literally splintered the whole way across and was hanging on by god knows what, you could see it moving up and down and then it snapped off, not to mention it was much closer to the cockpit as well, totally different location than this video. It certainly is awesome. Only thing I have to say is that who would record this with the cinematic camera on. Making me queezy.

[Kurfurst]

36 minutes ago, 15th_JonRedcorn said:

The one I had happen the other day was way more hardcore, the wing was literally splintered the whole way across and was hanging on by god knows what, you could see it moving up and down and then it snapped off, not to mention it was much closer to the cockpit as well, totally different location than this video. It certainly is awesome. Only thing I have to say is that who would record this with the cinematic camera on. Making me queezy.

 

Well if I would have to pick a singer thing that the new Il-2 series brought as a huge leap forward in the simulation industry it’s definitely this kind of progressive damage and simulation of physical interactions between individual components of the plane and even between plane and ground and other objects. Physical interaction and damage feels real. It’s lightyears ahead of anything else in this regard.

[JonRedcorn]

20 minutes ago, VO101Kurfurst said:

 

Well if I would have to pick a singer thing that the new Il-2 series brought as a huge leap forward in the simulation industry it’s definitely this kind of progressive damage and simulation of physical interactions between individual components of the plane and even between plane and ground and other objects. Physical interaction and damage feels real. It’s lightyears ahead of anything else in this regard.

When the aileron from the plane you just shot down destroys your prop they are definitely doing something right.