What about adding middle british bombers?

[DusJG/1Caeser]

Hi,

what about to add middle british bombers (with only 2 Engines) like the Avro Manchester or Bristol Blenheim etc. to Battle of Bodenplatte?

I would love to see (in the future) Bombers like the Avro Lancaster or Handley Page Halifax. This would be so great! ?

 

Best greetings,

 

Aljoscha

[Chief_Mouser]

Errr... because the Manchester and Blenheim were long obsolete and didn't take part in Bodenplatte or anything else in Europe at that time?

[AndyJWest]

There were only ever 202 Manchesters built. Even during the 16 months or so they were in use by bomber command they were of limited significance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Manchester#Operational_history

[DusJG/1Caeser]

I suggested the Avro Manchester as a substitute for the Avro Lancaster. Because the Avro Lancaster can´t implemented yet, because of it´s 4 engine. I know that only 202 Manchesters where ever built, but it would be a nice extra!

 

23 hours ago, 216th_Cat said:

Errr... because the Manchester and Blenheim were long obsolete and didn't take part in Bodenplatte or anything else in Europe at that time?

Oh, I didn´t knowed it that the Blenheim was retired in 1944. Sorry.

 

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, DusJG/1Caeser said:

Oh, I didn´t knowed it that the Blenheim was retired in 1944. Sorry.

 

The Manchester makes zero sense as well. It was retired from combat in 1942.

[AndyJWest]

6 hours ago, DusJG/1Caeser said:

I suggested the Avro Manchester as a substitute for the Avro Lancaster. Because the Avro Lancaster can´t implemented yet, because of it´s 4 engine. I know that only 202 Manchesters where ever built, but it would be a nice extra!

 

Oh, I didn´t knowed it that the Blenheim was retired in 1944. Sorry.

 

 

The issue with heavy bombers isn't just the number of engines: more gunners make for more CPU demands for AI, and having to model multiple crew positions makes them more expensive too. There are multiple threads explaining this already.

 

If the devs want to add a British Bodenplatte time-period 2-engined bomber, the obvious choice is the Mosquito.

[DusJG/1Caeser]

6 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

 

The issue with heavy bombers isn't just the number of engines: more gunners make for more CPU demands for AI, and having to model multiple crew positions makes them more expensive too. There are multiple threads explaining this already.

 

If the devs want to add a British Bodenplatte time-period 2-engined bomber, the obvious choice is the Mosquito.

Mosquito? Yes, I like that idea! And what about the Vickers Wellington? It was retired in 1945, has only two gunners and two engines.

[Chief_Mouser]

Wellington - no. Long gone from the European theatre by 1945. Used mainly by Coastal Command or as a trainer once it was retired from night-bombing duties (last mission October 1943).

Edited August 2, 2018 by 216th_Cat

[DusJG/1Caeser]

Oh, ok. Thank you for closing my knowlege gap. XD

[Trog1odyte]

Mosquito and Beaufighter would certainly be nice.

[Chief_Mouser]

Love the Beaufighter but was it around in Europe in early 1945? The Mosquito had replaced it as the primary RAF nightfighter by then; not sure if the USAAF were still using them in southern Europe.

 

Where I would love to see it is in the southwest Pacific with the RAAF. Anyone for the Battle of the Bismarck Sea? Il-2 BoBS .

[Trog1odyte]

Yes, the Beau was in use until the end. For example, U-2338 was sunk by Beaufighters on 4 May 45.

The RAF used Beaus in the Greek civil war during 1946. 

 

Rocket attack against Italian units in Seisenberg (now Zuzemberk, Slovenia) in Feb 45:

Edited September 4, 2018 by Trog1odyte
added photo

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Any amerucan twin engine bomber makes more sense tbh.

B-25, B-26, A-20G, A-20J, ect.

Edited September 4, 2018 by 6./ZG26_5tuka

[BOO]

hey I know

 

How about a B17.....

 

Ill get me coat ?

[MiloMorai]

On ‎8‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:51 AM, 216th_Cat said:

Wellington - no. Long gone from the European theatre by 1945. Used mainly by Coastal Command or as a trainer once it was retired from night-bombing duties (last mission October 1943).

 

The Wellington was used as an AWAC off the Dutch coast to direct Beaufighters and Mosquitoes to He111s carrying V1s.

[HBPencil]

1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

 

The Wellington was used as an AWAC off the Dutch coast to direct Beaufighters and Mosquitoes to He111s carrying V1s.

IIRC there was also a squadron (or a flight) of Wellingtons in the 2nd TAF used for specialized night recon which was based at one of the airfields attacked during Bodenplatte.

[MiloMorai]

4 minutes ago, HBPencil said:

IIRC there was also a squadron (or a flight) of Wellingtons in the 2nd TAF used for specialized night recon which was based at one of the airfields attacked during Bodenplatte.

 

Yes, 34 Recce Wing, 69 Sqd was based at Melsbroek (B58) with Wellington XIIIs. Also Spitfire XIs of 16 Sqd and Mosquito XVIs of 140 Sqd.

[Chief_Mouser]

2 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

 

Yes, 34 Recce Wing, 69 Sqd was based at Melsbroek (B58) with Wellington XIIIs. Also Spitfire XIs of 16 Sqd and Mosquito XVIs of 140 Sqd.

 

It's good to learn something new. Cheers.