Newest Version to purchase?

[BiBa]

Hi, I'm a newbie.

 

Have a few questions before I purchase my first IL-2 version. 

 - Which is the newest version, Battle of Cuban or Battle of Bodenplatte?

- On one hand it is cited it can be played as a separate stand-alone product or be integrated with other Great Battles titles... On the other hand there is a Note: On Steam, customers must first purchase Battle of Stalingrad if they wish to purchase it.  I am confused because Stand-Alone product means I get it on DVD, so is it a DVD or Steam product? And do I need the Stalingrad version first?

Many thanks in advance

Edited July 31, 2018 by BiBa

[Adger]

Hi Biba welcome..

Il try to answer to the best of my knowledge (And please if anyone wants to correct\jump in feel free guys)

 

Battle of Boddenplate is the newer version BUT..it's not released yet it's still in development and so for a more complete experience Battle of Kuban would be your better purchase at this moment IMO.

 

I own Steam BOS but BOM and my collector planes are from here on the site it all integrates into one.

 

I believe you only have to have BOS on Steam if you wish to purchase anything else from steam or use the Steam launcher for your sim.

IF you only want BOBP or BOK you purchase them here on this site not Steam..and just fly in that campaign \map.

 

At least that's my understanding of things. BOS and BOM regularly go on sale too so you could pick them up in the future if you wanted directly from here on the site.

HTH

Best regards 

Adger

[Wolferl_1791]

You shouldn't think of it in terms of "latest". Stalingrad, Moscow and Kuban each come with their own planes. For example, if you are a Stuka fan, you need to buy Stalingrad, because that's the only one that has it. If you want the i-16 or Mig3, then you need to buy Moscow. 

But, as Adger said, BoBP is in alpha state so ignore it for your first step.

 

My recommendation would be to buy Stalingrad on Steam. Why? Because then you can get any later pack from the website but still access the game through Steam. Also, I believe Stalingrad has a discount on Steam right now (I could be wrong). 

Edited July 31, 2018 by Wolferl_1791

[Eicio]

And there is no DVD involved, if you buy bodenplatte it will just be added to your account.

 

The question for steam is "do you want the game to be on steam ?" 

 

If not just buy from the game store, it's better in every ways.

 

And about the "newest version" it depends on what you meant, it's not like different games that are released every 2 years, they are part of the same game so if you buy the "oldest" package id est Battle of Stalingrad it won't be any technologicaly different from the others.

 

If you meant newest in terms of planeset then adger said it right, bodenplatte will have some of the last aircrafts of the war but it's not out yet while kuban is.

[BiBa]

20 minutes ago, Eicio said:

And there is no DVD involved, if you buy it, it will just be added to your account....

Thanks guys for the prompt replies.

 

As to the boxed DVD; that means there is only an online Download of the Game directly from IL-2, and that goes for any future updates right? Or do we have with the Steam version better options or advantages?

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

There is no difference between Steam or store version. Just that if you buy from IL-2 store the money goes to devs, on Steam not all.

[Adger]

9 minutes ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

S!

 

There is no difference between Steam or store version. Just that if you buy from IL-2 store the money goes to devs, on Steam not all.

 

You cannot purchase BOK or BOM on steam if you don't already own BOS on steam..it's on the steam store page guy's. They won't run without BOS.

 

You can purchase BOK,and BOM directly from the store on this site and they Will run without BOS

 

Id say the only "better" thing steam does is IMO the updates/ downloads are quicker also if you like All your games in 1 place there's that.

 

plus purchasing from the store on this site..the Devs get 100% of your money.

 

 

Edited July 31, 2018 by Adger

[Eicio]

16 minutes ago, LLv34_Flanker said:

There is no difference between Steam or store version.

 

Actually there is one, depends on your currency but steam is more expensive.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

I was referring to the game itself. There are no differences between them. Differences are in pricing etc. I prefer to buy from IL-2 page.

[BiBa]

12 minutes ago, Adger said:

 

You cannot purchase BOK or BOM on steam if you don't already own BOS on steam...

OK that's one good reason to buy directly from Devs and it's better if the whole benefit goes it all to them too.

Besides as being German my currency is naturaly the Euro.

 

With what kind of payment commodity can I make the payment to Devs; Paypal, online bank transfer or something else?

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

PayPal, credit cards etc. I used PayPal and works like a charm.

[BiBa]

There are a lot of nice and helpful people in this forum.

I like it very much already.

Thanks for the Info

 

By the way, as being an academic peace activist, I invest a lot in the German - Russian Friendship activities.

Edited July 31, 2018 by BiBa

[RedKestrel]

8 minutes ago, BiBa said:

There are a lot of nice and helpful people in this forum.

I like it very much already.

Thanks for the Info

 

By the way, as being an academic peace activist, I invest a lot in the German - Russian Friendship activities.

In that case you'll have to be sure to fly extensively for both sides!

[Adger]

12 minutes ago, BiBa said:

There are a lot of nice and helpful people in this forum.

I like it very much already.

Thanks for the Info

 

By the way, as being an academic peace activist, I invest a lot in the German - Russian Friendship activities.

 

Biba there's some 25% off codes going around at the moment for BOK,BOS BOM and collector planes see if you can pick one up before you purchase..unless you have a ROF account anywhere?

Edited July 31, 2018 by Adger

[InProgress]

1 hour ago, BiBa said:

Thanks guys for the prompt replies.

 

As to the boxed DVD; that means there is only an online Download of the Game directly from IL-2, and that goes for any future updates right? Or do we have with the Steam version better options or advantages?

You can buy real DVD copy, probably depends on country and publisher. But in mine i can easly buy stalingrad dvd copy, even cliffs of dover (and not only old version but blitz is also on dvd).

 

 

 

*Box versions require steam

 

Edited July 31, 2018 by InProgress

[BiBa]

19 minutes ago, RedKestrel said:

In that case you'll have to be sure to fly extensively for both sides!

In fact I've been flying for quite a while with DCS Fw 190 D-9 Dora & P-51D Mustang. Now is about time for a change. I'm quite intrigued by the Russian planes, so I'll be flying extensively rather with the Russian side to shoot down some Nazi flies!

[=EXPEND=Capt_Yorkshire]

Start with BoS .

[BP_Lizard]

I can give you my 25% discount which you can apply to either Stalingrad, Moscow, or Kuban if you wish to get one ASAP. Otherwise, if you’re willing to wait, they discount them for up to 50% ever so often. 

PM me if you want the discount.

[Gambit21]

Start with BoS, BoM, BoK, BoBP.

Don't use Steam.

 

Welcome!

[pilotpierre]

I am with Gambit21 on this, best way to go.

Edited August 1, 2018 by pilotpierre

[FTC_Riksen]

On 7/31/2018 at 12:32 PM, BiBa said:

There are a lot of nice and helpful people in this forum.

I like it very much already.

Thanks for the Info

 

By the way, as being an academic peace activist, I invest a lot in the German - Russian Friendship activities.

 

Yup ... lots of friendship activities goes on in our virtual skies ... very friendly ... lol

[BiBa]

I received the BOS as gift donated by Gordon200!

 

Now this is what I call a warm welcome!

A wonderful start! 

Thank you very much*****

[Herne]

have fun Biba, this is the best WWII air combat sim out there, if you have any questions this forum is a very good place to get them answered. Some very good tutorials for tactics and level bombing on You Tube as well

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

13 minutes ago, BiBa said:

I received the BOS as gift donated by Gordon200!

 

Now this is what I call a warm welcome!

A wonderful start! 

Thank you very much*****

 

Props to you Gordon200.

Very nice gesture!

 

BiBa, Enjoy the addictive foray into the IL2 world. Hope to see you in the virtual skies one day.

 

 

[BiBa]

40 minutes ago, =FEW=Herne said:

have fun Biba, this is the best WWII air combat sim out there, if you have any questions this forum is a very good place to get them answered. Some very good tutorials for tactics and level bombing on You Tube as well

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My first encounter with IL-2 was on YouTube... 

It is your good tutorial quality, that draw my attention to it!

I've even subscribed to your YouTube Channel before subscribing here.

 

I don't know if "The Air Combat Tutorial Library" is your official representative there, but it was one of the best.

Weird that the Channel with your official name "IL 2 Sturmovik" is only occupied with a single video. It is obviously not yours. I do not want to lecture you but you ought to have already registered that name on YouTube because when someone searches for IL-2, this is what the search machine depicts. 

 

Advertising is the Alpha and Omega for all products. 

 

Edited August 2, 2018 by BiBa

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

Welcome Biba. Join us on official BoS TS server if you ever fly Germans.

 

Have fun.  

[BiBa]

1 hour ago, =EXPEND=Tripwire said:

...BiBa, Enjoy the addictive foray into the IL2 world. Hope to see you in the virtual skies one day.

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For sure!

I'll be there soon for some training after having properly configured the simulation to my PC and the HOTAS good enough for the basics. I am very demanding and strict to flight rules and I hate to crash or getting splashed... Therefore I need some time to master at least one aircraft before joining a dogfight. I'm not used of being getting shot down easily.

Edited August 2, 2018 by BiBa

[Herne]

41 minutes ago, BiBa said:

My first encounter with IL-2 was on YouTube... 

It is your good tutorial quality, that draw my attention to it!

I've even subscribed to your YouTube Channel before subscribing here.

 

I don't know if "The Air Combat Tutorial Library" is your official representative there, but it was one of the best.

Weird that the Channel with your official name "IL 2 Sturmovik" is only occupied with a single video. It is obviously not yours. I do not want to lecture you but you ought to have already registered that name on YouTube because when someone searches for IL-2, this is what the search machine depicts. 

 

Advertising is the Alpha and Omega for all products. 

 

 

That's very kind of you to say so, but I just posted some vid's because I was having so much fun. I strongly recommend sheriffs sim shack if you have not viewed his material already, and requiem air combat tutorials. Etherlight did an awesome tutorial on rocket aiming and bombing with an IL2

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEOoU9PxkXEmsFdzrbvx37A
https://www.youtube.com/user/RequiemBoS

 

Edited August 2, 2018 by =FEW=Herne

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Just so you don't value the New Versions too much: Every Improvement made in Graphics, Physics and Gameplay is applied to all Aircraft and Maps. The Development of previous Versions is never truly over, even after release the Game is still Plastic and open for Corrections and Improvements. 

 

The most Important Versions to own are BoM and BoS. Kuban is a nice little Side Show. 

 

Don't forget the Collector Planes. The P-40, Hs.129 and Ju-52/3m are far more awesome than People give them Credit for, and I can't wait for the Po-2. 

 

You also shouldn't think that the Moscow Era Planes aren-'t competitive. The MiG-3 and 109F-2 are still very effective in Kuban. 

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

 

2 minutes ago, BiBa said:

For sure!

I'll be there soon for some training after having properly configured the simulation to my PC and the HOTAS good enough for the basics. I am very demanding and strict to flight rules and I hate to crash or getting splashed... Therefore I need some time to master at least one aircraft before joining a dogfight. I'm not used of being getting shot easily.

 

Sure ..... you will probably end up on the Wings of Liberty server but I guarantee you that unless you fly at 9000m and pick your targets very carefully you will have a tough time staying in one undamaged piece. The fighting is fierce and there are highly skilled pilots that will have you running for your life in desperation.

 

Best place to hone your shooting/dogfight skills is the Berloga dogfight server. Its a furball of madness but it definitely teaches the basics of gunnery and survival.

 

Again.... most importantly.... have fun.  

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

And if you are looking for relaxed Fun on a less competitve Server, where you can make a difference, take coconut's Server.

[BiBa]

On 7/31/2018 at 6:41 PM, RedKestrel said:

In that case you'll have to be sure to fly extensively for both sides!

 

Now after having tried IL in VR, 3D + TrackIR, and I must say I'm very impressed with the IL engine performance, I finally started my first flights' experience with the Russian Aircraft. But it seems on the long-term I won't be able to keep the balance between the two fronts because the problem I'm facing now is: I do master four languages, but I can't understand a word in Russian besides "yes thank you", (да спасибо) let alone read it! 

 

Is there some Russian Cockpit version, where the gauges & instruments are in English may be in BOM, BOK or BOBP?

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Err, no. Unless a modder came up with some.

 

That being said, learning to phonetically read cyrillic takes at most a couple hours, with additional short reading session of random words for a few days.

Russian words for speed, altitude, oil temperature and so on are the same in most cockpits so you'll get familiarized with Russian pits in no time. 

[BiBa]

1 hour ago, F/JG300_Gruber said:

Err, no. Unless a modder came up with some.

 

That being said, learning to phonetically read cyrillic takes at most a couple hours, with additional short reading session of random words for a few days.

Russian words for speed, altitude, oil temperature and so on are the same in most cockpits so you'll get familiarized with Russian pits in no time. 

 

Easier said than done... I can further deal with Spanish, Italien, Dutch and so on as long as I'm dealing with Latin Alphabet. 

Telling me to deal with Cyrillic script is like asking you enjoying a flight in a Japanese Cockpit... (assuming you cannot read Jap)

 

Other "Hardcore Sims" do have an extra English Cockpit for all their Russian Planes & Helicopters. That's how the KA-50 became my favorite!

I strongly advocate for an extra English version, and to be fair for BOTH Russian and German AIs. 

Edited August 8, 2018 by BiBa

[Dakpilot]

Luckily numbers are not in Cyrillic, it does not take too much time to regognise the various gauge types, and most are standard accross the Russian aircraft, a short time with some of the cockpit reference guides in the manuals/guides section will get you going in no time ?

 

Cheers, Dakpilot 

[F/JG300_Gruber]

It took me two days to read cyrillic with no experience in anything else than latin alphabet. Really easier than most people seems to fear without even trying. 

My brother who is not at all skilled in foreign languages learned it in less than a week. 

 

Japanese I stopped trying after two weeks, couldn't memorize good enough 

 

I don't think that english cockpit is in the scope of the development team nor will be in the foreseable future anyways 

Edited August 8, 2018 by F/JG300_Gruber

[RedKestrel]

55 minutes ago, BiBa said:

 

Easier said than done... I can further deal with Spanish, Italien, Dutch and so on as long as I'm dealing with Latin Alphabet. 

Telling me to deal with Cyrillic script is like asking you enjoying a flight in a Japanese Cockpit... (assuming you cannot read Jap)

 

Other "Hardcore Sims" do have an extra English Cockpit for all their Russian Planes & Helicopters. That's how the KA-50 became my favorite!

I strongly advocate for an extra English version, and to be fair for BOTH Russian and German AIs. 

I cant read cyrillic at all and the guages are fine. You just have to kind of memorize where they are at first. All the important instruments are in numbers. theres a lot of labels and stuff that are on devices that you can't control or dont need to worry about. Tach, MP, airspeed, altitude, climb, temps etc. are all in numbers. Requiems familiarization videos give good overviews of all the cockpits so you can learn them that way.

The thing that mostly bothers me is that most cockpits dont have an indicator for radiator settings or mixture. You can see the temps, but you can't see how your radiators are setup, so I still rely a bit on the tech tips, especially because knowing the exact mixture percentage is important for some planes with boost (eg. the MiG-3 and Il-2).

[BiBa]

46 minutes ago, F/JG300_Gruber said:

It took me two days to read cyrillic with no experience in anything else than latin alphabet. Really easier than most people seems to fear without even trying. 

My brother who is not at all skilled in foreign languages learned it in less than a week. 

 

Japanese I stopped trying after two weeks, couldn't memorize good enough 

 

I don't think that english cockpit is in the scope of the development team nor will be in the foreseable future anyways 

3

 

That would be a pity...

 

A lot of Gamers argue they don't need it complicated like for e.g. having a clickable Cockpit Sim where the pilot has to take over the cold start, make a lot of readings to work out the checking list manually step by step. So if Gamers do like it simple there, (see my thread: IL first impression & 3 question marks...) why not also here?

On the other hand, I wonder how top leading Sims who do like it complicated in every realistic detail, managed to mod an extra English Cockpit for their Russian AIs to keep it simple?!

 

So the discrepancy here I see in this case between Gamers and Simmers is really...funny...

 

If you can find me a majority of Gamers willing to do a lot of homework readings and give a GO for an interactive clickable Cockpit, I will immediately start my homework learning the Cyrillic script! Deal? 

 

Gamers are revolving facts
Simmers are evolving facts

Written by me...

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by BiBa

[RedKestrel]

1 minute ago, BiBa said:

 

That would be a pity...

 

A lot of Gamers argue they don't need it complicated like for e.g. having a clickable Cockpit Sim where the pilot has to take over the cold start, make a lot of readings to work out the checking list manually step by step. So if Gamers do like it simple there, (see my thread: IL first impression & 3 question marks...) why not also here?

On the other hand, I wonder how top leading Sims who do like it complicated in every realistic detail, managed to mod an extra English Cockpit for their Russian AIs to keep it simple?!

 

So the discrepancy here I see in this case between Gamers and Simmers is really...funny...

 

If you can find me a majority of Gamers willing to do a lot of homework readings and give a GO for an interactive clickable Cockpit, I will immediately start my homework learning the Cyrillic script! Deal? 

 

Not sure what you're trying to say here? Who had modded an extra english cockpit, and why would it be for Russian AIs? The AI doesnt see the cockpit at all, and if it was a Russian AI one assumes it can read cyrillic...

Anyway, the cyrillic thing is not necessary. Every guage you need in a Russian bird is numeric, just need to figure out where everything is. Search the forums for a cockpit guide, I remember someone put something together that labels and IDs all guages and everything so you can learn the layouts. 

[Herne]

requiem air combat tutorials usually give an excellent overview of the cockpit familiarisation