Dev stream from today.

[OBT-Psycho]

http://youtu.be/EfmHBjSBK_I

 

have you guys seen it? 

 

Shadows look cool, but...STUKAAAAAAAA!! we have a look at the payload, and I recon SC1800 (big mofo bang maker), gunpod of machine guns, and last but not -definitely not- least : BK3.7 canon!!!

 

It is not finished but main work has been done, so we can hope to see it soon. 

 

Il-2 is going to be a hell of a plane, with this look and this amount of armour plates, and also 37mm guns. I just can't take it anymore, I NEED TO PUT MY ASS INTO THIS PLANE.

 

Nonetheless they showed us future quickmission builder, which looks a lot like the one from ROF. There will be some people disappointed, but I know I won't be. everything look so great so far, and future is even brighter. I can't see how this dream of a sims could turn bad. Best 90$ I invested for a long time!

[Picchio]

And those dynamic shadows.

[steppenwolf]

That Stuka looks bad ass. Nice lighting tech. I hope for EZDOK like tech for POVs!

[Alienax]

Everything really looks great so far, really looking forward to the IL2 and Stuka!

[kestrel79]

Love those shadows. They look very crisp too. Maybe that's why our in cockpit shadows are a little blurry right now since they are placeholders.

 

Attack aircraft are my favorite, those gunner turrets look sweet!

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Thx!

[YoYo]

Yes it was, double topic:

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/3768-driving-tanks-bos/

[OBT-Psycho]

ok, sorry about the double topic, I did'nt bother looked at the other one assuming it was just a guy wanting to drive tanks in BOS, s shown in the livestream and despite Loft stated it won't be possible. maybe a better title would help, but as far as I am concern mods can close mine

[Bussard_x]

_{ok, sorry about the double topic, I did'nt bother looked at the other one assuming it was just a guy wanting to drive tanks in BOS, s shown in the livestream and despite Loft stated it won't be possible. maybe a better title would help, but as far as I am concern mods can close mine}

 

_{It's not double your link is to the English version.}

Edited January 21, 2014 by Benz

[Finkeren]

I think it's fine to start a thread specifically about the live stream. The discussion in the other thread was focused on one specific part of that video, so there is no reason to take that off track.

 

This livestream was absolutely awesome. Lots and lots of new content shown, and most of it seemed pretty far along. I was litterally drooling throughout.

 

The quick mission setup looked great - well honestly the GUI was kinda bland but I really don't care about that - the features looked awesome and very easy to use.

 

Great to see, that multiplayer is being tested on a closed server, even if we saw nothing of it.

 

The dynamic shadows were gorgeous, but I somewhat doubt how much we will notice it while in the air.

 

The IL-2 looks like sooooo much fun, but I have to say the cockpit looked somewhat bare and unfinished (though obviously it wasn't)

 

The way the flexible ShKAS moved looked pretty damn good. Seems like we'll get AI gunners with actual blind spots and limited field of fire, and playing as a gunner won't be a simple point-and-click game.

 

The Stuka external model was perhaps the most beautifully rendered plane I have ever seen. I never thought the Ju 87 was much of a looker, but that model was amazing! The cockpit ofc was unfinished but still looked good with lots of intricate little details, I particularly liked the moving half-dome in the gunners position.

 

All in all a very, very interesting live stream that has me aching to fly again soon

[ST_ami7b5]

^^

I like the way devs communicate the game's progress.

Fair play so far.

[HagarTheHorrible]

I wonder if the dynamic shadows will mean I no longer ending up chasing them across the countryside because I think shadows are actual contacts ?

 

 

The Stuka external model was perhaps the most beautifully rendered plane I have ever seen. I never thought the Ju 87 was much of a looker, but that model was amazing! The cockpit ofc was unfinished but still looked good with lots of intricate little details, I particularly liked the moving half-dome in the gunners position.

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I thought the Stuka looked a bit fake, just something about the front end that looked a bit to plasticy. Edited January 21, 2014 by HagarTheHorrible

[Finkeren]

I thought the Stuka looked a bit fake, just something about the front end that looked a bit to plasticy.

 

It's subjective I guess, but I very much disagree. I thought the textures and reflections were perfect. It looked exactly like the warbirds I have seen in museums. You could agree that it looks too shiny and pristine, but I don't mind that. In fact I think it is far more accurate than the heavily weathered planes often shown in sims. Most warplanes during WW2 didn't survive in service long enough to be heavily weathered and would have looked brand new, at most a little muddy.

[J4SCrisZeri]

that stuka looks nice and tough

can't wait to fly it, or to jump on a Lagg and down some of them

[=38=Tatarenko]

not sure the stuka at Stalingrad had the 3,7cm cannon, mg pods or the sc1800. I hope we can restrict loadouts in missions.

[Fifi]

How come the Stuka get gauges glass reflections, and not the 109??

 

 

 

not sure the stuka at Stalingrad had the 3,7cm cannon,

 

According to Rudel himself, no...

Edited January 21, 2014 by Fifi

[Quax]

How come the Stuka get gauges glass reflections, and not the 109??

 

...just try to be a little patient and they will show up in the 109

[Fifi]

It's not a matter of beeing patient, it's a matter of understanding the work process...

On 109 first pre-release screens, if i recall well we were seeing same kind of reflections as this Stuka on stream video.

And they didn't add it...still don't understand why.

But don't worry, i'm patient...so for Lagg trim, and spotting distance increased 

[OBT-Psycho]

I think dynamic shadow will have an impacf on cockpit shadows in general. or at least I hope so, because ok it is cool and good looking, but I don't really think it will totally change my view in a flight sim once at 3000m.

 

Regarding stuka, I almost litteraly drool on my keyboard once I saw the plane. But I was a bit surprise by the loadout. Sc1800 is a big, BIG ordinance. What target is large enough to require this type of bomb? I can see how it will perform against bridge or large battleships, but neither of them were largelly spread on the eastern front, right?

Bk3,7cm canon is one of the most impressive stuff you can hang under a wing, but I thought it came along with D-5 version, not the D-3. Ok it might sound a bit neatpicking, but isn't it true? I am far from complaining about this, as when I think about stukas on western front I can't think of anything beside KannonVögel. but still...

 

And what is exactly the gunpods? I guess it is a twin machine gun pod, maybe Mg81Z or something. And IIRC barells are aimed a bit downward, to ease the long bust on convoy, but on that I may be wrong. it looks like some pods we can find on Su-25 nowadays.

[LukeFF]

Some discussion about the 1800kg bomb here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=63946&sid=eb30693af807e249b325c8b2c0cf6174

 

 

[csThor]

Such weapons were considered special ordnance and were used very rarely and only against certain targets (i.e. heavily fortified targets as the citadel of Brest-Litovsk in 1941 or Sevastopol in 1942). In fact anything above SC/SD 500 was already unusual and was usually employed on orders by the Fliegerkorps or the Luftflotte only. 

Edited January 22, 2014 by csThor

[Freycinet]

I don't think anybody needs to get their knickers into a bind over the load-out options shown at this early stage in development. I do 't find it necessary either that we have a absolute understanding of the development process. How about just leaning back and enjoying that we get load-outs beyond the most basic ones? - Ahh, but maybe that doesn't make us fans sound really really clever...

[OBT-Psycho]

hm, I didn't meant to start a heiss on developper choice about payload, don't worry. I was just questionning the utility of so. If I can bear with the FockeWulf on stalingrad front despite historical accuracy, I can do the same with the 3,7cm canon and even the big bomb.

 

But as far as I can see taget for that kanonVögel, I struggle to find some for the SC1800. but boy would I love to see how this stuka handle in the sim, even more with 1,8t strapped under my belly.

 

I don't believe they brought up this ordnance without any reason, so I look for one. But I know all that stuff is early WIP and may change before the release, so no worries so far, just interest

[Finkeren]

Is it posible that they made the SC 1800 partly to test out the new blast damage and destructible buildings?

[6./ZG26_Emil]

That Stuka looks unbelievably amazing

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Stuka looked gorgeous. Which exact version is it, D-3? On which versions did the 20mm cannons replace the MG's in the wings? Nice stream

[Gunsmith86]

And what is exactly the gunpods? I guess it is a twin machine gun pod, maybe Mg81Z or something. And IIRC barells are aimed a bit downward, to ease the long bust on convoy, but on that I may be wrong. it looks like some pods we can find on Su-25 nowadays.

Waffenbehälter (weapon container) WB 81A or WB 81B (firing with 15° downwards deflection) gun pods on external bomb racks for ground attack duties, each "watering can" containing three 7.92 mm MG 81Z twin machineguns with 250 rounds per gun, for strafing enemy troops. Designed for the Ju 88 and Ju 87 the WB was used with a lot of other planes too.

 

 

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=660&d=1177174593

 

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=661&d=1177174604

 

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=662&d=1177174617

[csThor]

S!

 

 Stuka looked gorgeous. Which exact version is it, D-3? On which versions did the 20mm cannons replace the MG's in the wings? Nice stream

 

It's a D-3 (according  to the planeset on the frontpage) and the 20mm cannons came only with the D-5 in late 1943.

[OBT-Psycho]

thanks for the infos about the WB containers.

 

Is it posible that they made the SC 1800 partly to test out the new blast damage and destructible buildings?

 

that is what I thought. Or at least some demo work or proof of concept for the dev and DM testing. I don't mind if it does not appear the final product, as I don't really see any target on the eastfront requiring especially that type of bomb.

[Finkeren]

that is what I thought. Or at least some demo work or proof of concept for the dev and DM testing. I don't mind if it does not appear the final product, as I don't really see any target on the eastfront requiring especially that type of bomb.

 

Oh come on, you mean we don't need a bomb that can level half of Pitomnik airfield? What's wrong with you?

[OBT-Psycho]

Oh come on, you mean we don't need a bomb that can level half of Pitomnik airfield? What's wrong with you?

 

on a rational side, we don't need that kind of payload...but be sure if we don't have it, I will madly and desperately cry to have it...cuz I lik big boom bro!

[BraveSirRobin]

And they didn't add it...still don't understand why.

 

ALPHA

[OBT-Psycho]

yep, the cockpit is pretty much alpha, so it's an alpha in an alpha (or alphaception, but those jokes are getting old).

I am sure what you consider as glass reflection was either a place holder or current state of the whole "glass reflection module" they are working on and put into the dev build of the game.

 

but so far i am please by what I see. the cockpit look just as busy as the one we have in CloD, which is a good thing. and dynamic shadowbeing implemented, i am sure it will reveal new graphical detail on what we have in our weekly build. not sur how much we will see of it as we spend most of the time in an environement with few places to reflect  shadows, but there should be for sur some reasons why they built this system.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Thanks csThor for clearing that detail out Recalled it was D-series, but not sure which one. Not that deeply into Stuka even it is a nice plane. Imagine a sneaky Stuka with that 1800kg bomb and manages to drop it on an airfield with spawning players..the ensuing hilarity would be priceless  

[csThor]

Quite honestly I'd rather have a normal loadout and a Staffel flying in Jungscher Reihe to my right peeling off with near perfect intervals to dive-bomb a soviet artillery position.

[Freycinet]

 

I don't believe they brought up this ordnance without any reason, so I look for one. But I know all that stuff is early WIP and may change before the release, so no worries so far, just interest

 

A reason could be that they hope the Battle of Stalingrad winter scenario is not the end all and be all of the sim.

[kestrel79]

I like how the pilot and gunner size looks right inside the plane. I thought CoD had way too small of pilots in it's planes, this looks much more realistic. Bravo.

[III/JG53Frankyboy]

i realy hope 777 will chose the WB81a, that you can aim them with the Revi sight. Without hordes of infanteie modelled, i think the 81 b would some kind of sensless.....