(BoS) Problem: Thrustmaster T16000M - Throttle Axis not working

[radieschenhsv]

I recently installed BoS after I had been playing 1946 and CloD Blitz plus FSX and XP10 over the past years using the Thrustmaster T.16000M. I have never had any problems with that piece of hardware. BoS, however, obviously would not detect the axis for the throttle. That means that I cannot even set the axis in the key mapping options while all the other axis work perfectly fine in the default settings. I have re-installed the game but as I had feared it did not help. Has anyone had that problem with the T.16000M or any other joystick and got to solve it?

[Thad]

Salutations,

 

Sorry to hear that you are having problems. May I assume that Windows recognizes the joystick throttle? Is it the 'first' listed controller. If not, that may be the problem.

 

Just guessing here. I have the Thrustmaster FCS HOTAS and haven't experienced any such problems but l obviously use the HOTAS throttle.

 

I do not use the Target program and must note that my joystick is designated as controller 0 and the throttle as controller 1.

 

Please keep us informed about any discovered solutions. 

[Seb71]

Make sure you are following the instructions when you bind the throttle slider. Move it to the center, the all the way up, then all the way down.

 

I have the same T.16000M joystick (in fact I have 2 of them), and both work fine in this game (including the throttle sliders).

[radieschenhsv]

I am not quite familiar with the device management in Windows 10, but generally, the joystick is listed as a controller. I just switched the USB port (just to give it another try) and started the game. I tried to bind it once more, yet without any progress... What frustrates me the most is that BoS is the first game to ever cause trouble with the TM.

[Sokol1]

Windows Games Controller (joy.cpl) is just for test if you joystick is working correctly.

 

But since you say that use this stick OK in other games (..1946 and CloD Blitz plus FSX and XP10) can skip this - games only see stick that are OK for Windows.

 

Happens that sometimes for some controllers axis BoS "key mapping"* have difficult to detect axes movement in assignment Windows (similar thing happens in DCS).

 

Try move throttle slider back and fort fast and/or start with axis full forward - and in assignment Windows move back first.

 

If this fail is possible assign the throttle axis manually editing the file current.actions in game folder.

 

* Not is wrong with your stick, are several other similar cases related in this forum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[radieschenhsv]

I have tried to assign the axis starting from top, bottom and middle, both fast and slowly, it didn't help. How do I assign the axis manually?

[Sokol1]

First you need know throttle axes name, donwload VKB-JoyTester

 

http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Programms/

 

Run the program, move throttle axis and identify axes name, eg. U, Z, Rx, etc.

 

Go to to game folder:

 

....\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data

 

* If your game is from Steam look inside STEAM > SteamApps\common\ folder.

 

Find the file: current.actions > double click for open with Notepad.

 

Localize the line

 

rpc_all_engines_throttles,        

 

And set this way:              

 

rpc_all_engines_throttles,                        joy0_axis_z,                                      1| // Engines throttle control

 

Joy0 is if you have only one joystick/throttle/pedal plugged in computer, if have more than one, may are joy1, joy2...

 

If throttle axis name in VKB_JoyTester is different of 'z', adjust.

 

Save the file and open again to be sure that changes are saved.

 

Open the game and test. If need invert the axis click in the curved arrow ahead throttle command (in Key Binds). Highlight axis is inverted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Seb71]

12 minutes ago, Sokol1 said:

....\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data

....\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\input

 

12 minutes ago, Sokol1 said:

If throttle axis name in VKB_JoyTester is different of 'z', adjust.

VKB_Joy testers sees the slider axis as "slider1".

In joy.cpl it's "Slider 0".

But Il-2 sees it as axis "p":  joy1_axis_p (or joy2_axis_p, etc.).

 

This is with the Thrustmaster driver installed.

[radieschenhsv]

So I have tried it by assigning "rpc_all_engines_throttles" to "joy0_axis_p" as well as to "joy0_slider1", none of wich made it work. Joy0 is correct according to VKB.

[Sokol1]

Just in case, are you using game in NORMAL mode with "engine cruise" or similar "aids" option enabled?

 

This option don't allow manual control of throttle - although shoud not prevents binding axis.

Test in CUSTOM mode with "aids" turned off.

 

 

[radieschenhsv]

42 minutes ago, Sokol1 said:

Just in case, are you using game in NORMAL mode with "engine cruise" or similar "aids" option enabled?

 

 

As far as I know, all aids are turned off. When starting mid-flight, the throttle is locked on max causing damage to the engine after a short while.

[Seb71]

1. Did you installed the Thrustmaster driver or not? The axis name might be different, depending on the case (with or without the driver).

 

2. You did not mention that you are using TARGET, so I assumed you are not using it.

 

Is this correct or not? Are you using TARGET or not?

 

3. Is the throttle slider detected in joy.cpl (Game Controllers panel) or not?

 

 

[Thad]

Are you playing through Steam? ?

[radieschenhsv]

1 hour ago, Thad said:

Are you playing through Steam? ?

Yes. Is there any difference besides the folder structure (steamapps/...)?

 

2 hours ago, Seb71 said:

1. Did you installed the Thrustmaster driver or not? The axis name might be different, depending on the case (with or without the driver).

 

2. You did not mention that you are using TARGET, so I assumed you are not using it.

 

Is this correct or not? Are you using TARGET or not?

 

3. Is the throttle slider detected in joy.cpl (Game Controllers panel) or not?

 

1. Just installed it and retried. Didn't help.

2. Correct, not installed, never used it.

3. Slider is detected and functional.

[Seb71]

Go in the keybindings (in the game) and try to bind the throttle again. Move the slider up and down (the whole range) more than once, so move it a few times (such as 4 times). I think you are not moving it enough during binding.

 

Report back.

 

Steam/non-Steam version of the game is not an issue.

[radieschenhsv]

21 hours ago, Seb71 said:

Go in the keybindings (in the game) and try to bind the throttle again. Move the slider up and down (the whole range) more than once, so move it a few times (such as 4 times). I think you are not moving it enough during binding.

 

Report back.

I have moved the slider multiple times. Just tried it ten or so times ? Still no progress.

[Seb71]

Based on what you wrote, it should work.

 

Can you bind any other thing?

[Sokol1]

After all, what name VKB_JoyTester report for your T.16000M throttle axis?

 

Or Windows Games Controllers  - type joy.cpl in windows Start/Cortana box and hit enter, the select you joystick and in properties test the throttle and see axis name.

 

An radical alternative to try , force Key Bindings to "reset" - rename the folder "Input" as 'backup" and open this will create a new,  what require reassign all commands.

 

If don't work delete the new created input folder and rename  "backup" for input.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by Sokol1

[radieschenhsv]

17 hours ago, Seb71 said:

Can you bind any other thing?

In case you mean assigning any other axis to throttle: yes

 

12 hours ago, Sokol1 said:

After all, what name VKB_JoyTester report for your T.16000M throttle axis?

The axis is detected perfectly fine.

 

12 hours ago, Sokol1 said:

An radical alternative to try , force Key Bindings to "reset" - rename the folder "Input" as 'backup" and open this will create a new,  what require reassign all commands.

Deleting the "current" file from the folder to force the game to create a new file when starting? Tried it, didn't work.

[Sokol1]

3 hours ago, radieschenhsv said:

  15 hours ago, Sokol1 said:

After all, what name VKB_JoyTester report for your T.16000M throttle axis?

The axis is detected perfectly fine.

 

Yes, that axis is working (for Windows) is implicit in your OP, but for edit current actions purpose, what name appear in VKB_JoyTeste for throttle?

 

Facts:

 

T.16000M work OK in Bo'X, dozens of users can confirm this.

 

Some joysticks - like your T.16000M, e.g. HOTAS X, are difficult for assign axis in Key Binds.

 

A combination of Windows settings, game settings and user  make that what work for some may don't work for others.

 

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by Sokol1

[Thad]

Salutations,

 

I just spent quite a bit of time setting up my Thrustmaser FCS HOTAS for use in driving the games tanks. I can control the turrets with the joystick and use my HOTAS throttle for acceleration and its paddles for turning my tanks. This feels much more realistic to me.

 

Oh... I was able to map BOTH my Throttle control and the Joysticks slider control for acceleration in the game. Mine works just fine.

 

Target not used. 

[radieschenhsv]

18 hours ago, Sokol1 said:

what name appear in VKB_JoyTeste for throttle?

Throttle is named Slider 1. Have tried to assign it in current.actions both as "slider1" and "axis_p".

 

18 hours ago, Sokol1 said:

A combination of Windows settings, game settings and user

What do you mean by windows settings? Can't remember dealing with any windows related configurations on that stick.