Newbie - External Views and Rudder Oponion

[jg123410]

Hi Folks,

 

This is my first post on this forum. I am really enjoying IL2 BOS and BOM.

 

I am hoping someone can help with these questions:

 

1.)  When I hit F2 for external view I am having a real problem getting a fixed or snapped view of behind the plane or anywhere for that matter. The only way I currently can see to control my external view is my mouse which is extremely sensitive and it goes all over the place. If I move my mouse I seem to end up under the plane or looking up. My question is - are there some type of fixed views externally or is there a way to control the speed / sensitivity of the mouse ? What I am looking for is one keyboard key that will always place me behind and possible slightly above the plane.

 

2.) Rudder Opinion and Questions - My question is - is there any way to map the rudder using the keyboard? I am not sure what controls are used for this in the settings menu? (YAW ? - but not sure which ones or how to set this up) - or am I totally sunk unless I get pedals or a twist joystick ?

 

If this information is posted somewhere please let me know. I did a search and saw a few things but I still had specific questions.

 

Thank you in advance for any help !! - jg1234

 

Specs

 

OS - Win 7 SP1

CPU - Intel I5 Quad 3.2 ( 3rd Generation)

GPU - 1050 TI - 4 GB Ram

RAM - 8GB

Sound - onboard

Joystick - Basic Logitech - 2 axis

Settings - running on high graphic settings at 1280 x 1024.

Game version 3.004

 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2018 by jg1234

[Sketch]

Off the top of my head, the default key set is:

 

f2: default external view

ctrl+f2: enemy external view (press multiple times to switch enemies)

shift+f2: friendly external view (press multiple times to switch friendlies)

alt+f2: on selected vehicle/plane switch to the different "set" views... some of which are cool

 

f3: fly-by of currently selected 

f4: fixed-view of behind vehicle/plane

 

 

Rudder is , and . I believe (I could be very wrong here). However, they go the full value of the rudder on key press. Maybe rebind the rudder to your mouse wheel? Up for left, down for right rudder. IDK, just a thought. It's highly recommended to get a twist stick or pedals. This guy is a highly recommended entry level joystick that includes the twist stick:

 

 https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-2960773-T16000M-Joystick-Black/dp/B01MQEDEEW/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1531158133&sr=1-2&keywords=thrustmaster+t16000m&dpID=41ddxyOeLrL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

 

Let me add, that before I got my setup, I used the mouse buttons for rudder [left button for left rudder, right button for right rudder] (and they went the full value on button press), and the mouse wheel was my throttle. I also used the mouse to look around because I did not have Track IR at the time. So my right hand had my joystick, and my left hand was mouse.

 

Edited July 9, 2018 by [TWB]Sketch

[jg123410]

Thanks [TWB] Sketch for the quick reply.

 

I appreciate the information. I will try some of these suggestions.

 

If anyone else has any suggestions please pass them along.

 

Thanks again !!! - jg1234

[D3adCZE]

Frankly, external view is useless for control of the aircraft. First person view gives you much more information about plane's behavior and you can e.g. stallfight. 

This brings me to the rudder. It is absolutely essential to have full control of it since it provides enormous possibilities in combat. Slip in scissors here and there and enemy on your 6 is in your gun sight. It also allows you to stall fight and energy trap enemies etc. 

[jg123410]

Thanks CSAF-D3adCZE,

 

You make very good points.

 

Just to clarify, my request for better external view control was more about being able to see the combat around me, the planes I shoot up going down etc.. and not really for aircraft control. Sometimes I like to go to external view to check out my plane and the environment around me. I m having a hell of a time doing that because my mouse seems to be the only way to control the view and it's really jumpy. I was just curious if there were external snap or fixed views. The F4 key [TWB] Sketch suggested was nice and helped, I am still playing around to see what other options there are.

 

Thanks again - jg1234

[Arfsix]

On ‎7‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 4:10 PM, jg1234 said:

If anyone else has any suggestions please pass them along.

     I suspect it may be in your "Keymapping" or control setup. Check in "Settings" for the following default commands.

     Go to the main menu (Hangar) Settings/Keymapping/camera/Controls:
          Rotate camera Up/Down                                 Joy#_pov0_180/Joy#_pov0_0
          Rotate camera Left/Right                                Joy#_pov0_90/Joy#_pov0_270
          Camera player cockpit                                      F1
          External free camera at player plane              F2

     Go to the main menu (Hangar) Settings/Cameras:
          Cockpit view
               Default view                Centered quick view

     Now the F2 key should place the camera outside pointed toward the aircraft. You can move the camera     (change the view) using the Point of View hat button on the joystick. You can zoom in or out using Keypad Plus (+) or Keypad Minus (-) on the keyboard.

   S!

Edited July 10, 2018 by Arfsix

[jg123410]

Thanks Arfsix,

 

I would not have guessed any of that. I will look into that and give it a try. Thank you very much for the information !! - Much Appreciated!!!

 

-jg1234