Von_Drinkoften Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Just a couple pictures of some scale models that I've built recently. First up is an Sd.Kfz. 7 with an 88mm Flak 36 An Sd.Kfz. 7/2 Flak 37. I've been on the receiving end of one of these a number of times now! You can view more of my model builds at Scalemates Anyone else into scale modelling? Edited July 9, 2018 by Von_Drinkoften 1 3
angus26 Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) I am not into scale modeling, mostly cause it seems like a pretty expensive hobby (i am a student, not a lot of money to spare), but I most certainly appreciate the work that goes into it. I love the process of weathering, and finding the camoflauge patterns and all that jazz to be very cool. I have made one model, a p-38 a while ago, nothing crazy. Those are some very nice models, and I’d be lucky to make something half as good as those. Edited July 9, 2018 by angus26 1
Von_Drinkoften Posted July 9, 2018 Author Posted July 9, 2018 Thanks Angus. Yes, it can get quite expensive... especially when looking for replacement aftermarket parts like metal barrels, tracks and photo-etched parts etc. But still, I find it quite relaxing and is a great way to learn about the particular vehicle as you assemble it.
Stumble Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 These are looking very nice Von_Dronkoften! Much better then my 1:72 scale WW2 Airplanes haha. I used to be real into scale models but gave up like a year ago. I just started on an old kit yesterday though. Only using brushes atm so its not excellent. I'm still very much a beginner at all this. Will post pictures soon. Do you suggest buying a super cheap junk airbrush off wish or just keep using brushes. Like this one here https://www.wish.com/c/5aab62b430a7eb613885474e Salute! Stumble. P.S Where about in NZ are you? I'm from all the way up in the far north. Its lovely up here. 1
Uufflakke Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 Just to let you guys know we have a dedicated topic for scale models. 1 2
bzc3lk Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) The Sd.Kfz. 7/2 Flak 37 has Wehrmacht/Heere number plates and Luftwaffe Goring Division Battalion "clock face" markings, is this correct? Edited July 9, 2018 by bzc3lk
CanadaOne Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Von_Drinkoften said: Just a couple pictures of some scale models that I've built recently. You can view more of my model builds at Scalemates Anyone else into scale modelling? Haven't build a model in many years. But I do have happy memories of building model airplanes up in my room while listening to The Moody Blues on cassette. That would have been in the late 70s I guess. 1
Von_Drinkoften Posted July 9, 2018 Author Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Stumble said: These are looking very nice Von_Dronkoften! Much better then my 1:72 scale WW2 Airplanes haha. I used to be real into scale models but gave up like a year ago. I just started on an old kit yesterday though. Only using brushes atm so its not excellent. I'm still very much a beginner at all this. Will post pictures soon. Do you suggest buying a super cheap junk airbrush off wish or just keep using brushes. Like this one here https://www.wish.com/c/5aab62b430a7eb613885474e Salute! Stumble. P.S Where about in NZ are you? I'm from all the way up in the far north. Its lovely up here. Thanks mate and glad you like them. As for the airbrush your best bet is to get something mid range to learn on and practice with. I'd be very suspicious of the quality of that airbrush in your link, as you get what you pay for and may be better off sticking with paint brushes. Unfortunately, even reasonable quality airbrushes (and compressors) are not particularly cheap either. But if your seriously wanting to get back into modelling and painting, then airbrushing is the way to go. I'd suggest getting an airbrush with double action (allows you to control the airflow more precisely) and with a 0.3mm needle. A good place to start for airbrushes is BNA models in Australia. You will find their pricing (and service) to be much better than anything available in NZ. What ever brand or type that you choose, you need to be sure that spare parts like replacement needles are readily available for it. And inexpensive compressors can be got from Super Cheap Auto here in NZ. You just need to check to ensure that the hose will fit your airbrush or it may require an adapter. If you want more advice on airbrushes, compressors and modelling tips and general pointers etc, then stop by the Kiwimodeller forum and introduce yourself and ask away. All the guys there are very friendly and quick to offer good suggestions and advice etc. Lastly, I'm from West Auckland NZ Cheers and good luck! 10 hours ago, bzc3lk said: The Sd.Kfz. 7/2 Flak 37 has Wehrmacht/Heere number plates and Luftwaffe Goring Division Battalion "clock face" markings, is this correct? Well spotted mate. I had a problem with the correct Luftwaffe number plate decals and was forced to use the Wehrmacht plates instead. 9 hours ago, -IRRE-Therion said: Some of my recent winter hobby work: Cheerio Awesome collection of builds Therion. Thanks for sharing Edited July 9, 2018 by Von_Drinkoften
THERION Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Von_Drinkoften said: As for the airbrush your best bet is to get something mid range to learn on and practice with. I'd be very suspicious of the quality of that airbrush in your link, as you get what you pay for and may be better off sticking with paint brushes. I can only confirm this! I started spraying my models when I was 15 with those Tamiya mini spray cans. For a first basic coat it was not bad at the time, still you had to do the rest with the paint brush. Those spray cans were absolutely not suited for detail painting. My first air brush was the Tamiya Spraywork set and finally not very helpful for my work. Again, not bad for basic coats but that's it. I recommend to start with a mid range airbrush, but don't be too greedy with the compressor. Because if you have a good airbrush but compressor that isn't even worth his name, you will be frustrated very quickly and it's a waist for your work and your good airbrush. The last and newest airbrush I've acquired is a (very pricey) Harder & Steenbeck Infinity Double Action. This tool is a dream! The first time was a sheer excitement. I barely didn't dare to use it! 1
Stumble Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 Sorry, a bit of a noob who hasn't researched much yet. But what does the compressor need? Can it be any old compressor or does it need to be adjustable?? Thanks guys Salute! Stumble.
Feathered_IV Posted July 14, 2018 Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) Lovely work! Stumble, something with a reserve tank is best so it doesn't need to run continuously and has a smooth stream of air. I use one of these cheap and cheerful 1/6hp Chinese compressors for some pretty finescale work and they do the job great. https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=air+compressor+1%2F6hp&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_odkw=air+compressor+1%2F6&LH_TitleDesc=0 My airbrush is a $20 Chinese double-action job too and gives a good finish with a .3mm needle selected. Just thin your paint properly and use an on-off action to get a super smooth finish. Edited July 14, 2018 by Feathered_IV 1
Von_Drinkoften Posted July 14, 2018 Author Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Stumble said: Sorry, a bit of a noob who hasn't researched much yet. But what does the compressor need? Can it be any old compressor or does it need to be adjustable?? Thanks guys Salute! Stumble. The compressor needs to be adjustable so that you can set the air pressure (PSI) entering the hose, so it has to have a PSI gauge accordingly. If I'm spraying a primer coat I usually spray using about 17 - 20 PSI depending on the paint. For general paint work though, I lower it down to around 10 - 15 PSI. A lot depends on the paint and how much you have thinned it etc. It's also important to have at least 1 water trap. Most compressors have one built in, but if it doesn't then you will need to get one that attaches to the airbrush itself. I use two, as my compressor has one built in, but I found I was still getting water spitting out which was a problem when airbrushing acrylics. A second $10 water trap from Mighty Ape attached to the airbrush solved all my water spitting issues. As Feathered has mentioned, a compressor with it's own air storage tank is ideal (I wish I had gone this route) but will inflate the cost. The benefit of having a compressor with its own air tank is that you don't have to have the compressor constantly running which can be fairly noisy and you also get the bonus of a constant air flow. I'm still using the same old cheap compressor I purchased 5 yrs ago which doesn't have an air tank, but still works ok for my needs. But, had I known more before hand, I definitely would have purchased one with it's own tank. Edited July 14, 2018 by Von_Drinkoften
Von_Drinkoften Posted July 15, 2018 Author Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) I came across this Compressor and Airbrush combo on Trademe. It has everything you need to get started for $167.00 with free shipping NZ wide and a 2 year warranty. The airbrush is probably not the greatest quality, but should be good enough to start out with and practice on. Edited July 15, 2018 by Von_Drinkoften
Stumble Posted July 15, 2018 Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) Kiaora, Thanks for the help guys. Very much appreciated. I'll have a look into all this, it all depends if I'm gonna keep making models or if I'll get sick of it and quit ?. I might actually have a little compressor somewhere in the garage I'll have a look. I was wondering if my big compressor would work but apparently not. I'm guessing 100 PSI isn't gonna work the best for painting haha. Also, what do you use for thining enamal paints? I have been trying to research this but haven't found any solid information. I have been using miniral turpintine from Mitre Ten as I think that is white spirits. It does act super strange though and I'm not sure if it's meant to do that. It's seemed to work for the couple models ive done so far but it would be good to get ur info. Would a small 12V compressor like this work? It doesn't have an air tank but could you Chuck a regulator on to it to be able to control the output? If that works could I use a big one like this? Salute! Stumble. Edited July 15, 2018 by Stumble
Von_Drinkoften Posted July 15, 2018 Author Posted July 15, 2018 (edited) G'day mate, It looks like a bit of over-kill to be honest mate and something you'd use in the automotive industry etc. You need to be able to be more precise and to be able to adjust the air-flow/pressure + or - more precisely under 20 PSI or 2 bars etc. Air brushes are (or should be) very finely machined instruments. Tolerances for joins or gaps are... or should be miniscule/microscopic. If you get a cheaply machined airbrush and needle, the chances are that you will end up with something that doesn't perform well. Air escaping etc will negatively effect your ability to spray accurately for thin lines etc. This is THE major reason to avoid buying a cheap airbrush as 9 times out of 10 it won't perform well and overall will be a negative experience. Then your next choice is what paint to use. When I was a youngster in the 70's and early 80's, you didn't have much choice in the way of paint here in NZ. Predominantly the paint of choice back then was Humbrol enamels. It still is hardy stuff and applies well even with a "hairy stick" paint brushed and usually wont give you brush strokes when applying over a wide area. As how to thin Humbrol or any other enamels? I don't know mate as I have moved on to acrylics now. By far THE MOST available paint here in NZ is Tamiya acrylic's. (They also do enamels) The down side is that their acrylics don't brush well with a hairy stick without Tamiya acrylic paint retarder. The Up side is that they are cheap, don't smell, and very easy to clean up the airbrush afterwards. Basically get a bottle of Tamiya acrylic thinner (X20A) and top up the paint jar of acrylic paint. Stir/mix well and your good to go to air-brush. For further tips and advice, head over to the Kiwimodeller forum and ask away. What you have in your pictures will probably work.... but will be bloody awful Just down scale it... Edited July 15, 2018 by Von_Drinkoften
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