BoBP - FW 190 F-8 ordnance

[Ropalcz]

Hi,

 

we are going to get FW 190 A8 (with F-8 as a mod) and I would like to ask whether we get:

1) ETC 71 underwing bomb racks (4x SD 70 bomb) - FW 190 F-8/R1

2) Panzerblitz anti-tank rockets (version of R4M rockets) - FW 190 F-8/Pb-1

3) AB 250 container

 

I'm curious what are we going to get

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2018 by Ropalcz

[ShamrockOneFive]

Well the Panzerblitz is certain....

 

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

Those aren't the R4M-based Panzerblitz rockets, though. Looks to me like they (Panzerblitz II-IV) were never used in action anyway. Air-Air R4M production was prioritised, yet Panzerblitz III and IV were tested. Panzerblitz II was scrubbed as the launch-Velocity was deemed too low, which directly lead to the development of Panzerblitz III and IV.

 

The Panzerblitz I 8cm rockets are a much better deal than the next lower solution: Panzerschreck -  which had severe launch-restrictions.

 

AB and SD bombs would be a nice Addition, nonetheless. On any Fw 190.

[dkoor]

Is there any special reason why AB cluster bombs aren’t already in the game?

[Ropalcz]

1 hour ago, dkoor said:

Is there any special reason why AB cluster bombs aren’t already in the game?

 

No idea. PTAB for IL-2 is already in game, so making cluster should not be a problem (but idk, maybe its somehow diffucult to make)

[ShamrockOneFive]

6 hours ago, dkoor said:

Is there any special reason why AB cluster bombs aren’t already in the game?

 

4 hours ago, Ropalcz said:

 

No idea. PTAB for IL-2 is already in game, so making cluster should not be a problem (but idk, maybe its somehow diffucult to make)

 

In but "relatively recent" (several months now) so I assume that it's not super easy to just do. DCS, as I recall, had lots of issues with cluster munitions and especially so when it came to multiplayer. I remember the PTABs being something that would work well in both situations.

[dkoor]

Makes sense in a way that they are not super important... still, I hope them to be ready for BoBP... they probably make much more convenient weapon than any air to ground rockets, another words were probably much more used. I suppose that they should be super effective as troop support weapon.

Edited July 9, 2018 by dkoor

[PatrickAWlson]

I know that cluster bombs don't have their natural target - infantry, but sprinkling a few on a truck convoy or artillery position would be nice.

[ShamrockOneFive]

I'm sure one day they will do them and they will of course proliferate across the aircraft lineup.

 

I'm guessing that at first things will be fairly straightforward with the British and American bomb loadouts too. But there were some quirkier setups like the 30lb anti-personnel cluster bomb used on P-47s and P-51s. Not sure if we even have a use or if they could be employed against vehicles.

[Avimimus]

I'm pretty excited to have the F-8... I didn't expect it to be included

[Ropalcz]

I think they would be very useful against columns and arty.

 

SD bombs would maybe do the same job (they have bigger damage splash than SC) and they would be less difficult to make than cluster, although signifficant number of FW 190 F pictures include AB 250 container.

 

Its use was pretty widespread.

Edited July 9, 2018 by Ropalcz

[Bremspropeller]

Does anybody know whether any F-8s were actually flown in a 3x ETC 503 configuration?

 

Dietmar Herrmann mentions that the F-8/U1 was supposed to replace the G-8 (which was of very low priority at that time, as the neccessity of Schlachtflieger was far greater than Jabo-Rei airframes). The/U1 was going to use three ETC 503s, which would enable airframes configured this way to carry a combination of bombs (250kg class) and drop-tanks.

 

Also, which Sondernotleistung-system would the F-8 use?

Would it generally employ a raised boost-level (similar to the Anton series), or would it also rely on the C3-injection System akin to the earlier F-series?

 

Edited July 14, 2018 by Bremspropeller

[Livai]

Just a quick Question,

 

-> were A-8 Versions ever build where the MW-50 tank was used as normal fuel tank???

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

FW-190A never used MW50 operationally

[Bremspropeller]

12 minutes ago, RoflSeal said:

FW-190A never used MW50 operationally

 

That wasn't the question.

The A-8 onward (A-8, A-9, F-8 probably not) had a 115l Zusatzbehälter (auxiliary tank) behind the pilot's seat. That tank was initially destined to be filled with MW-50.

This never materialized and the tank was either fitted and used for normal fuel, fitted and not used or not fitted at all/ removed. The latter two options are shady, though.

 

Some other people may have more specific figures. JtD?

Edited July 18, 2018 by Bremspropeller