MiloMorai Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 There are people all over the world who shouldn't be driving but these videos from Russia are something else. Are Russian drivers really that terrible?
Emgy Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) There are a lot of videos of bad Russian drivers because it seems like every Russian male has a dash cam. If this were the case in some other countries I can think of, well... Edited January 18, 2014 by Calvamos
DB605 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) There are a lot of videos of bad Russian drivers because it seems like every Russian male has a dash cam. If this were the case in some other countries I can think of, well... Maybe true for some countries but there is definitely more worse drivers in russia than lets say average european country. Probably there are more drunk drivers too. Russian tourists cause quite lot of crashes here in Finland too. Edited January 18, 2014 by DB605
Emgy Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Oh yes. Direct quote from a Russian college classmate: "It's crazy!" Just saying, been to other places with really chaotic driving that would be youtube material if they also had dashcams.
Sternjaeger Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 AFAIK the dash camera on Russian cars is to cut on insurance costs?
Rama Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 No, It is a means of protection against scams and corruption. .. and it's not by law. Lot of drivers installed them because of the number of pedestrians who are looking to get hit by cars, in order to receive damages... and because of police attempts to crook drivers.
Sternjaeger Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 http://mentalfloss.com/article/48952/why-do-so-many-russian-drivers-have-dashboard-cams
bivalov Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 it's sounds like "it's true what in russia bears drinking vodka and walking on streets in ushanka?"... in USA or Canada lot of bears, good drinks, low temperatures and crazy peoples too, right? just for example... in russia a bit another specific mentality and different reality with many very specific fears, things, other history, possiblities etc, but mainly peoples are absolutely same with other similar peoples, it's besides types of races, mixes etc wich can give some little differences etc... many drivers are crazy, many not, plus a bit of local features of any nations/society's etc, you know... VOLUNTARY installation of "видеорегистратор" ie just camera in many cars just because russia are in wild condition in many senses, in fact, and that's one of reasons of strange craziness of peoples too... i'm about real corruption of cops by some reasons... absolutely or just crazy dudes including some indigenous peoples... influential peoples who think what they "outlaw" and it's unfortunately true... etc etc etc... btw, in fact officials want to DENY these cameras by some reasons, mainly, strange and contrived, looks like this is infighting, politics etc.. well, really, looks like could be strange craziness of russian peoples, but i think what half of it's just understandable logical difference... it's my simple opinion about our f...g life here and now, although i'm not driver... and sorry me, but i too have question - in USA/Europe and other country's not used dash cams or what? and why, this is other and just LAWS? ie that's really our particular feature?...
Rama Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 In Europe, most drivers don't use dash cams (no need to). The only one using them are those wanting to do crazy things (like driving 200 km/h inside a town) in the purpose to upload videos on YouTube.
bivalov Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Lot of drivers installed them because of the number of pedestrians who are looking to get hit by cars, in order to receive damages... and because of police attempts to crook drivers. missed this answer, yes, partly that's reasons too... plus, for example, it's "подстава" when you ALLEGEDLY hit car of someones, so, these peoples begin to extort money... cops can do similar deal, when you drunk, or have malfunction, or you broke rules etc, and mainly that's looks like "normally" for all world... you know, and need to remember what ordinary guys not have dollars from selling of oil etc, и каждый друг другу как волк, so, for example cops sometimes trying to get some money... but i not want protect them, it's just about reality and sometimes helpful, but bad tendency... dash cams good thing during car accidents, you know how hard to prove guilty, these cams just good proof when happens crime and you accidentally see this etc... and just remember, about my love and my homeland - meteorite in Chelyabinsk! it's what i remembered, any driver can say much more, and really funny sometimes... In Europe, most drivers don't use dash cams (no need to). The only one using them are those wanting to do crazy things (like driving 200 km/h inside a town) in the purpose to upload videos on YouTube. ok, i assumed something like this... , Europe it's really another type of country's, in many senses, although, difference often just are mistake... i think peoples how in your post have in russia too, maybe this is they, but with our iniquity and mentality and their too much... just fast thought... PS damn, i think need to stop writing with these funny sets of english words! sorry me, and better to learn grammar and other needful stuff for better understanding... Edited January 19, 2014 by MK.Bivalov
Mastermariner Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Just love dash cams! http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=misshap+air+in+afghanistan&docid=4838728595277181&mid=8C821AD125E96AE945198C821AD125E96AE94519&view=detail&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=8C821AD125E96AE945198C821AD125E96AE94519 Intend to get one myself asap. Master
bivalov Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Just love dash cams! http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=misshap+air+in+afghanistan&docid=4838728595277181&mid=8C821AD125E96AE945198C821AD125E96AE94519&view=detail&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=8C821AD125E96AE945198C821AD125E96AE94519 Intend to get one myself asap. Master WOW... it's "luck" to catch something like this, but meteorite better... or at least, bigger...
LLv34_Flanker Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 S! I've watched those Russian clips of driving and it is horrible to see how badly they drive. Looks like the roads are filled with people who got their driver's license from a packet of Kellog's Rice Crispies and driving training on Playstation game And when I see a Russian car here in Finland I really have to be careful as you never know what they do, for example turn in front of you without using turning lights, stopping suddenly, driving all over the road etc. A few sure drive as should, but in general I wonder what kind of control they have for a person to get a license. As Bivalov said a lot of it is tied to the social structure and culture but still it is the worst driving I have ever seen. For sure not all drive like that, but usually a few rotten apples spoil a full basket of good ones..
Rama Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 it is the worst driving I have ever seen. Not me.... In 2004, I have worked in Cairo during one year. I lived in the South of the city and worked in the northeast of it... so had around 1h20/1h30mn to got to work, and same to drive back home. That's probably the most dangerous thing I've done in my life... all Cairo inhabitant I talked with have many stories about familly members, friends, etc... who died or were badly wounded in street accidents. The common joke in Cairo is to say there's only one way to drive, with 2 bricks, one on the accelerator, and one on the horn switch.... I've seen so much weird things, that even if a 747 was landing on a boulevard, I wouldn't have been surprised. Cairo streets are car combat area where red lights, signs, road markings and cops are totally meaningless, just décorating elements. I even saw once 3 minibus racing in front of me... in the opposite (and wrong) direction... not that "wrong direction" means anything, even on something which is supposed to be a 3-way carriageway... The only real incredible thing, is that I got only one (very minor) accident... I still have hard time to believe I was that lucky.
bivalov Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Looks like the roads are filled with people who got their driver's license from a packet of Kellog's Rice Crispies and driving training on Playstation game And when I see a Russian car here in Finland I really have to be careful as you never know what they do, for example turn in front of you without using turning lights, stopping suddenly, driving all over the road etc. A few sure drive as should, but in general I wonder what kind of control they have for a person to get a license. really, you reminded very important thing - with high level of corruption in RF, in total, and permanent "getting money" in behavior of many peoples here, that's one of reasons... for example, it's paid training in bad driving schools with low level of control, or even getting of driving license after взятка ie bribery... sometimes, bad control of these schools etc, but i cant say here absolutely correct information... btw, strange behavior of drivers could be explained with fears of another country, rules etc, but it's explained only partly, i think...
LLv34_Flanker Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 S! Got that Mr.Bivalov. Corruption seems to be pretty bad then? Really a shame as I think many people want to learn, but because of things not in their control this happens. The road conditions in Finland should not be a problem as they are in good shape in most places. Also traffic markings are clear so should not pose a problem. But as you said, I think it is a bit strange to drive in another country. And no fear here, police is not corrupted at all. They are treating everyone equally on the road by the law. And in many cases help too so driver can drive safely. That is my experience at least 1
MiloMorai Posted January 20, 2014 Author Posted January 20, 2014 Here in North American some police forces target vehicles with out of State or Province tags. Example: Quebec Provincial Police go after Ontario and New Brunswick vehicles.
Jaws2002 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I grew up in Romania and got my driver license in January '92. The corruption back then, in Romania, was insane, but nothing to the level of the former Soviet Union. I understand very well what's going on. A lot of new "aristocrats" who think they are above everything, and are untouchable. A lot of cars imported, that were a lot more powerful and much faster than local stuff. Poorly maintained roads, not built for the speed this new cars could do. Rampant, in your face corruption, allowing some people to get away with everything, and motivating the rest of people to break laws as well. Back during the nineties, in Romania, it was normal to drink all night in a bar, with the cops and then drive home....or 50km away to another club or party. In the evening maybe 50% of the drivers were drinking. I know guys, who should not be allowed near anything faster than a donkey, who were involved in multiple accidents, with fatalities, keeping their license throughout all that. It was a jungle. We didn't have dash cams back then, but I'm sure had the situation persisted, they would be everywhere by now. After I moved to Canada, in 1999, they started hitting corruption pretty hard at many levels. It's a lot safer now. Some people still get away with bad things, but very few and the price is prohibitive. People don't risk it anymore. Paying the cops better had a solid impact as well. They don't risk their career for few bucks anymore. They won't do it for a steak dinner and a bottle of wine,.... like when I got away with drunk driving at a road inspection, in a town 100km from home, where I didn't know any cops. ....... Young and foolish. Here in Canada things are very different. Police officers are very well paid, with benefits pension plan, insurance for the family and many other things. Nobody in his right mind will risk his career for a silly bribe. The laws will hit anyone trying to do it really hard as well. So things here are nice. Obviously there are still problems, but that's nothing compared to what we had back then, or what is in Russia and many former Soviet states.
Fodder Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I agree with earlier poster, driving in Egypt is insane. I go to the Sinai a lot and see an accident or the aftermath on nearly every journey. It seems every Egyptian I speak to has lost a friend or family member in a smash you think they'd be more careful, import tax makes cars hideously expensive!
Rigel Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) S! I've watched those Russian clips of driving and it is horrible to see how badly they drive. Looks like the roads are filled with people who got their driver's license from a packet of Kellog's Rice Crispies and driving training on Playstation game And when I see a Russian car here in Finland I really have to be careful as you never know what they do, for example turn in front of you without using turning lights, stopping suddenly, driving all over the road etc. A few sure drive as should, but in general I wonder what kind of control they have for a person to get a license. As Bivalov said a lot of it is tied to the social structure and culture but still it is the worst driving I have ever seen. For sure not all drive like that, but usually a few rotten apples spoil a full basket of good ones.. I driving car in Russia more than 10 years and i never was witness of crashes and some dumb actions. So as some guys says early - you see so many crashes because every one has dash cams. It is a matter of probability. Sorry for my english. Edited February 7, 2014 by Rigel
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