Biggest Issue in IL-2 Box found !

[Wolfram-Harms]

The biggest issue in BoX is by far, that I am not successful enough in my CARREERS and CAMPAIGNS !

Dammit, devs - what have you built here? Am I a lesser man than Erich Hartmann? Do I not have the same rights as him ?

 

Though I'm trying with much effort to help my country to win this war, the enemy sees that different, and they shoot me down all the time!
Please, devs - remove this one big issue, and I will never complain about your otherwise so great sim!

(I may even make a donation if I feel that you have changed things to my likes!)

 

EDIT/PS: Not sure about the level and adjustment of humour around here, so before I harvest a shitstorm - or even agreement! - I better add: this thread is meant IRONIC !

 

Edited June 6, 2018 by Wolfram-Harms

[Wolf8312]

There is no way in hell you could possibly be a worse pilot than me! I dont even need an enemy to kill me, by far most of my deaths have come from ground attacks durring which I should have pulled out but instead flew straight into the ground and exploded! Eric Hartmann, more like Cartman!

[Wolfram-Harms]

10 minutes ago, Wolf8312 said:

... should have pulled out but instead flew straight into the ground and exploded...

 

Trying TOO hard, maybe?

But seriously now: keep learning and you'll get there, step by step. Took me longer than I thought, but now I see progress.

[dkoor]

Started Emil career i Moscow, from day one.

Did rather poor jabo job until Me-110 equipped squadrons arrived on scene I./ZG 26 & II./ZG 26... transferred to those, and am flying mostly ground pounding missions with SC1000 ... makes world of difference. One pass and I usually get the job done which is in turn good for surviving chances. Couple of times flight was annihilated by MiG-3's, but managed to ditch successfully every time. For some odd reason, I find landing to be easier than in IL-2 1946.

BTW I tried to hide in rather thick cloud layer but the MiG's still saw me and attacked... I flew in straight line and gunner killed two MiG's (their engines shot out), but the third shot me down... so apparently they saw thru clouds, but have quite poor aim... not sure whether because they were in clouds or they are novices...

 

PS. still flying with mouse

[Wolf8312]

8 minutes ago, Wolfram-Harms said:

 

Trying TOO hard, maybe?

But seriously now: keep learning and you'll get there, step by step. Took me longer than I thought, but now I see progress.

 

Yeah it's kinda that, mainly though just taking stupid risks that one wouldnt in real life. Iron man helps with that but to be honest I dont fly the main campaign much any more, mainly the scripted campaigns and PWCG especially the later because I am able to edit the time of day which is great for VR aesthetics and atmosphere! 

[Wolfram-Harms]

Hard to learn: to imagine you could really lose an eye or an arm - or even your life.

[Wolf8312]

8 minutes ago, dkoor said:

Started Emil career i Moscow, from day one.

Did rather poor jabo job until Me-110 equipped squadrons arrived on scene I./ZG 26 & II./ZG 26... transferred to those, and am flying mostly ground pounding missions with SC1000 ... makes world of difference. One pass and I usually get the job done which is in turn good for surviving chances. Couple of times flight was annihilated by MiG-3's, but managed to ditch successfully every time. For some odd reason, I find landing to be easier than in IL-2 1946.

 

 
Yeah I kinda feel landing is too easy, or that it got much easier than it used to be, or maybe I just got better. Not sure but landing the Dora in DCS is certainly much more difficult and bouncy!

1 minute ago, Wolfram-Harms said:

Hard to learn: to imagine you could really lose an eye or an arm - or even your life.

 

Yeah I'd love to see how defensive my flying would be if that were the case!

[dkoor]

Bf-109 was especially unforgiving, many times I'd just blew off landing gear with rough approach... so far things are looking good with landings, and I don't even pay much attention to specific aircraft landing regimes... drop flaps, gear and gently touch ground at about 170-190kph. Cut throttle and that should do it.

 

All in all, I+m very satisfied with overall career experience, ground attacking missions are in particular a big improvement over our old 1946.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

Hehe One reason  (among others) why I don't play career  is  because my sorties outcomes were not realistic (to much planes shot down and to many medals  gain to easy) I consider myself below average in multiplayer environment. 

[-TBC-AeroAce]

1 hour ago, Wolf8312 said:

 

Yeah I'd love to see how defensive my flying would be if that were the case!

 

I can rig up some kind of micro controled nail gun Saw style death helmet that will fire when your virtual pilot dies and a hydraulic crusher suit that will simulate forces up to a 100 g. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ow rats Box does not support  telemetry output. Back to the drawing board.

Edited June 6, 2018 by AeroAce

[Wolf8312]

5 minutes ago, AeroAce said:

 

I can rig up some kind of micro controled nail gun Saw style death helmet that will fire when your virtual pilot dies and a hydraulic crusher suit that will simulate forces up to a 100 g. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ow rats Box does not support  telemetry output. Back to the drawing board.

 

I'm going to pass but thanks that was very considerate of you! ?

 

16 minutes ago, 307_Tomcat said:

Hehe One reason  (among others) why I don't play career  is  because my sorties outcomes were not realistic (to much planes shot down and to many medals  gain to easy) I consider myself below average in multiplayer environment. 

 

Thats why it pays to play as the Germans much more realistic and historically accurate!

[RedKestrel]

9 minutes ago, AeroAce said:

 

I can rig up some kind of micro controled nail gun Saw style death helmet that will fire when your virtual pilot dies and a hydraulic crusher suit that will simulate forces up to a 100 g. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ow rats Box does not support  telemetry output. Back to the drawing board.

Taking Iron Man a bit too far, I think!

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

35 minutes ago, Wolf8312 said:

Thats why it pays to play as the Germans much more realistic and historically accurate!

I did play as blue side (Bf109)

[Wolf8312]

1 minute ago, 307_Tomcat said:

I did play as blue side (Bf109)

 

Well it was only a joke really! ?

[Wolfram-Harms]

Any air combat sim MUST fail on the "realism terrain", if the player will not do EVERYthing to fly it most realistic.
BoX must offer aids to make it easy for beginners or people with lesser eyesight for example.

Only the players can set it all up to most realism.

For me, it is still hard to even only find all the other aircraft, and then identify them, whether they are friend or foe.
With LABELS it is no problem - without it can be.

 

And all those who are not challenged enough, can still join a realistic online server - to meet the "zombie aces*"...!

THAT is really hard at times!

 

Stay high, and blue skies!

 

(* fighter pilots who resurrected hundreds of times, without losing their collected experiences)

 

[dkoor]

22 hours ago, Wolfram-Harms said:

 

Only the players can set it all up to most realism.

 

Truer words have never been spoken.

[RedKestrel]

I have a recurring problem, maybe you all can assist me.

Every time I come in for a landing, I hear yakkety sax playing in the background. Then, as I bounce along the runway, there's a laugh track.

Anyone else having this issue?

[Wolfram-Harms]

5 hours ago, RedKestrel said:

Every time I come in for a landing, I hear yakkety sax playing in the background. Then, as I bounce along the runway, there's a laugh track.

 

Don't worry, son, that's alright and normal, if you are flying on the Russian side. Nothin's broken - it's just a German tradition...

 

 

Edited June 8, 2018 by Wolfram-Harms

[dkoor]

I don't feel like posting a new topic about career for a short question, so here it is; does your Career character actually make transitions between theaters of war, i.e. is it possible to switch to Stalingrad after Moscow campaign?

[GSP_Hund]

Well I suffer from FDS (frequent death syndrome) as well when flying Jabo sorties in the 190A5 on iron man settings, I'm currently at my record of 6 missions without a death.  How long that will last is unknown, but it certainly is a challenge what these guys have built into this sim's campaigns.  I do better as a pure fighter BF109 than moving mud, but I'm going to keep plugging away . . . .

[LukeFF]

47 minutes ago, dkoor said:

I don't feel like posting a new topic about career for a short question, so here it is; does your Career character actually make transitions between theaters of war, i.e. is it possible to switch to Stalingrad after Moscow campaign?

 

Yes

[dkoor]

11 minutes ago, II./JG77_Hund said:

Well I suffer from FDS (frequent death syndrome) as well when flying Jabo sorties in the 190A5 on iron man settings, I'm currently at my record of 6 missions without a death.  How long that will last is unknown, but it certainly is a challenge what these guys have built into this sim's campaigns.  I do better as a pure fighter BF109 than moving mud, but I'm going to keep plugging away . . . .

You just gotta have a bit of luck too... when you chew 88mm AA most of the times you couldn't do anything about it...

Iron man mode makes us think twice when trying to be overzealous about our attacking attempts...

JABO or mud moving gotta be tougher by no small margin because apart from original ground targets, sometimes you have to defend yourself against enemy fighters too.

Plus majority of missions are flown over enemy land, one wrong move and bye bye, death or prison.

9 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes

Thanks, looking forward to it, hopefully my toon will live to see the day.

[Poochnboo]

3 minutes ago, dkoor said:

Iron man mode makes us think twice when trying to be overzealous about our attacking attempts...

Well, now, about that. Last night I joined the dark side for the very first time. Grabbed a BF109 on the Liberty server and actually wound up attacking someone! I was going to get my first on line kill!!! He crashed into the water and I followed him right in. I just can't win.

[dkoor]

It comes with experience, don't worry... you'll know exactly when to press the attack and when to give up and go elsewhere.

Me for instance, I'm going elsewhere quite a lot lately, at one sign of enemy overcrowding the area, I'm outta there.

It just isn't worth dying for that one destroyed target more when chances aren't overwhelming to my side.

Sure enough, I don't get many "missions completed successfully" messages, but who cares as long as I can climb tomorrow into that death trap once again and roll the dices of luck.

 

About the "dark side"... I've almost always felt more comfortably flying in Messerschmitt... be it for the fact that fighter was present thorought the war, so you can 'specialize' it, be it for the fact that 109 really is potent machine practically unmatched in its climb ability which somehow always enabled me to "solo" with it better than in any other machine, has almost always decent high alt and low alt performance, and also being perhaps one of the most rewarding gun platforms overall... nose cannon and two cowl machine guns - concept that just works.

[Wolfram-Harms]

11 hours ago, dkoor said:

I don't feel like posting a new topic about career for a short question, so here it is; does your Career character actually make transitions between theaters of war, i.e. is it possible to switch to Stalingrad after Moscow campaign?

 

10 hours ago, LukeFF said:

Yes

 

Didn't know this yet. Great! Thanks for the info!

[Trixie]

Ok that's really good to know!